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It turns out that Microsoft's "Recall" feature, which takes snapshots of your screen every few seconds, is completely insecure, as in trivial to take the data.
This is clearly the future of AI.
https://x.com/GossiTheDog/status/1796218726808748367
LitterBoxKing
This should be shared far and wide.
llebkcir
yup 100% going to screw things up. just wait until major utilities get hacked as a result.
PsistormIkura
So from a brief read. It reads EVERYTHING even the things they say it won't. It's NOT entirely local since it runs without an NPU. It's plain fucking text. Recall was dystopian even in its announced form, but this is... I have no words.
Iaimtomisbehave
Don't put your shit on my lock screen, or on my tool bar, or in my Windows search box. It's a constant battle with these knuckleheads.
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ChristopherTallant
More people should know this is being rolled out on all computers. Global.
LitterBoxKing
wants employees to never make a security tradeoff.
Clockworkdancerobot
A lot of governments would love this feature. Would help them find anyone unhappy enough to organize opposition candidates.
zanaria
Any guesses how long it is before Microsoft is hit with a class action lawsuit over hundreds of thousands of people being hacked due to private information being recorded by a feature that people did NOT authorize. You NEVER put such features as "Opt out" you ALWAYS make them optional. It is NOT optional if it's on by default and you have to turn it off...
HandsomePenguin
Exactly my thought. The M$ shills keep saying the data is just kept localy and no one has access. If that's the case make it an OPT-IN thing. Cause otherwise if no one is getting it why does it even exist? But we are supposed to trust the company who made its money selling people's data. It's bonkers.
DarkZalgo
I thought it was opt-in to begin with though. It takes up like 250GB doesn't it?
HandsomePenguin
Jesus christ. I was just on the Microsoft reddit asking how to avoid getting this copilot installed, and there were hundreds of Microsoft shills defending it promising it's all going to be secure and to stop whining about it.
DarkZalgo
To be fair, if it's as insecure as they're claiming, it could potentially open up Microsoft to enough lawsuits to legitimately bankrupt the company. If 5% of the US uses it and tax info gets taken, they could be hit with more fines than their total net worth.
HandsomePenguin
Fingers crossed
constellanation5
Microsoft Reddit is insane. Like bonkers level insane. I asked how to stop windows 11 install from automatically happening. There were two overwhelming answers it doesn't automatically install (odd because it was) and two just accept it because Microsoft does no wrong. Anyway I bought a Mac
HandsomePenguin
I remember when they made Edge a built-in part of windows, installed it without my permission and then made it the default browser without my permission. You would think I was asking the best way to drown kittens when I asked over there how to remove it and stop it from happening again.
ChaoticEnigma1121
Is there a way to at least disable this bullshit?
CacheRAM
Even if the UI tells you it's off, nothing prevents it from running anyways.
HandsomePenguin
The built-in "disable" still lets it run. It just doesn't send you any notifications. You have to edit your Windows registry to actually shut it off, and even that is just a stop gap..
DarkZalgo
Kinda doubt that tbh. If true, that's the easiest lawsuit in the world.
HandsomePenguin
I don't know how it will be with Recall. But that's how it was with CoPilot.
KilroyLichking
yes its called linux
ChaoticEnigma1121
Linux isn't consumer level. You need a certain level of computing know-how and diy ability to successfully run Linux. These are skills I do not possess.
imacmadman
While Linux might not be “Consumer Level” it’s not that difficult to learn. You leaned how to use Windows and whatever other software you use. Sure, you may not possess IT technician level knowledge, it isn’t that different from Windows in a daily use scenario. Some years ago I gave my wife a computer with Linux installed because she kept getting viruses and spyware and the problem was solved. She has barely ever asked me for any help.
KilroyLichking
I'm sure complaining to a multi bullion dollar company through social media whilst giving them money for an broken and intrusive operating system will elicit the change folks are hoping to see. Linux is absolutely consumer level and if command line scares you there are lite, or gui heavy distributions of linux kernals for you to use like Linux mint https://youtu.be/499jqHWZ-Ts?si=MTHcKXHzyD_pkNi4. Better still you can dual boot and run a linux partition and still have your windows.
KilroyLichking
learn the diy skill, learn a modicum of code and whole new universes open up to you. especially since Linux is free. Or if you like spending money then migrate over to mac (which is still basically Linux)
ChaoticEnigma1121
I never said complaining would help, I asked if there was a way to disable the crap that no one wants in the software majority of the population uses. I am not a M$ defender but it is the "easiest" and most used OS out there. There are people that don't even know Linux exists, let alone how to use it.
KainLamond
as much as i think the Recall thing is stupid, its technically already in event viewer
LitterBoxKing
Event Viewer does not capture the same information as Recall. So no, Recall is not 'in' Event Viewer.
HonHomes
So from what I can tell, recall would be on by default, and possibly could not be disabled, or could be silently enabled or whatever (spyware), and from this, seems about as secure as a gaping hole in the side of the building. Is event viewer equally vulnerable? (Genuine question, I don't pay lots of attention to cyber security stuff)
msaroff4
Oh f%$# no! (Not doubting you, just Oh f%$# no!)
KainLamond
Was added in Windows NT so administrators can see anything that has done on in the system, its good to know about.
HandsomePenguin
Yup. It's packaged with the Co-pilot AI they've been rolling out for the last few weeks. Turned my computer on the other day and it was just there ready to go. Not able to remove it, but you can "turn it off" meaning stop notifications. I had to edit my registry in order to actually disable it.
KainLamond
I mean event viewer that has been in windows since Windows NT
KainLamond
Also i'm in the windows 11 beta and haven't got any notifications for it.
HandsomePenguin
Okay?
KainLamond
was just saying I haven't got any Coplot notifications in build 26100.712 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
HandsomePenguin
Yeah, I don't know why some people are getting it, and others aren't. I certainly didn't sign up to be a beta tester or anything