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So the results are in.
The standardized tests show that, for the most part, it's not my brain that prevents me from living like I should : it's the way I'm using my brain that creates most of my most cumbersome problems.
Hence : go therapy go !
Aeithen
Also, get a sleep study.
skipweasel
I must find my glasses - I read that as sheep...
420supercoolusername69
DrewThe3DPrinterGuy
HPI stands for history of present illness I guess. I had to look it up. I hope you feel better and can get everything under control. Brains are right bastards.
g4rF
Sorry guys, can't seem to edit my post to let you know that I misused the french term HPI, wanting to say High Intellectual Efficiency. So, not that efficient.
DrewThe3DPrinterGuy
It's okay! Whatever it is called, knowing what it is is just a huge improvement over not knowing, I'm sure. Hope you get a rad therapist and everything goes swimmingly.
FeIineDisrespectFromBehind
what's HPI?
g4rF
Sorry guys, can't seem to edit my post to let you know that I misused the french term HPI, wanting to say High Intellectual Efficiency. So, not that efficient.
g4rF
Sorry guys, can't seem to edit my post to let you know that I misused the french term HPI, wanting to say High Intellectual Efficiency.
oakleaves
Other articles I read seem to switch between HPI and HIP too and I’m struggling to understand the conversion/difference.
It seems both are (more accurate but still misleading) versions of the more common (in the US at least) term “gifted” (which is almost pejorative/condescending in its deceptive subjectivity, lack of functionally descriptive naming, and ironic oversimplification; it’s hard to think of a label that has inherently created more harm and confusion).
g4rF
So, not that efficient in the end ;)
oakleaves
That’s kind of like saying “diesel engines aren’t very efficient*” in the end.
(*as tested by comparing miles per gallon between a WWII submarine run on high test gas doing combat maneuvering at -200ft with disabled electric motors to fuel consumption measured in MPG of modern gas and electric passenger cars on a track conditions doing a steady 40-60mph.)
oakleaves
In other words, functional cognitive output is severely undercut when high processing brains are attempting to function in “normal society” designed to maximize efficiency from normal (low-moderate processing) brains.
(Though I get that the “not that efficient in the end” comment appears to be intended as self deprecating humor or in an ironic/sarcastic sense.)
TheWonderfulWizardOfOs
HPI is not a diagnosis that replaces a diagnosis like ADHD, CPTSD, or major Depression; it's a diagnostic tool that helps frame the course of your symptoms, often to try to assess the presentation and effect of traumatic experiences. You should have another conversation with your clinician to make sure they are explaining it to you correctly.
g4rF
Sorry guys, can't seem to edit my post to let you know that I misused the french term HPI, wanting to say High Intellectual Efficiency. So, not that efficient.
TheWonderfulWizardOfOs
Oh, makes much more sense. (Sorry for being a self centered american and completely forgetting that different countries use slightly varied medical terms)
oakleaves
What the wizard is saying still stands and is an important point. It’s a fairly recent shift that psych professionals have started accepting ADHD and Autism (ASD) not only aren’t mutually exclusive but actually occur together as much or more often than apart.
Giftedness/HIP also may occur at an increased rate in folks with ASD/ADHD with the correlation being missed/denied because of the assumption/bias that they are mutually exclusive.
oakleaves
Once you’ve acclimated to the HIP diagnosis (Dx) it may help you to dive into how the conditions are different & overlap so you can self-assess* if the single Dx fits. Then, if needed, you can seek further assessment/confirmation “ready for the test(ing)” with the understanding and vocabulary needed to better illustrate any specific challenges and issues you may be facing that AREN’T explained/addressable via your current Dx.
*research supports the validity of self assessment for ND conditions
oakleaves
Well now I have a new ND condition to learn about! Thanks for sharing, and well met on this strange road/journey into existence with a different sort of brain!
oakleaves
Okay, I’ve been reading & have questions. OP (or anyone that knows), “giftedness” (I hate that term), high intellectual processing (HIP), and “HPI” seem to be often used in conjunction or even interchangeably, but “HPI” tends to appear sans reference. Is it a slip, analogous term, or abbreviation for something else entirely?
Also, does HIP cover all “intelligences” or focus on traditional cognitive venues like mathematical problem solving, word processing, (you know, the “MS Office” suite)?
g4rF
My bad, everybody gets confused because I misused the french initials HPI (standing for Haut Potentiel Intellectuel) instead of going for High Intellectual Efficiency which is a proper translation but probably not the coined name for this.
It effectively denotes higher-than-average efficiency for analytical reasoning and conceptual problem solving, and also extends towards memory efficiency and litteral knowledge.
oakleaves
Thanks, got the second part no problem. The HIP/HPI thing wouldn’t have thrown me as much if at least two other articles didn’t do the same thing also without connection/explanation so not really “your bad”.
skipweasel
House Price Index? Hot Potato Insurrection? Harry Potter Intolerance?
brucaphur
I do this exact same thing when I find initials or an acronym I don’t know.
Huge purple idiot, harry python igloo, etc.
KarmannGeezer
Harpsichord Pretzel Initiation.
skipweasel
Oooh, nasty. Thoughts and Prayer!
tonehoundsmoser9
Hentai Proton Inversion
KarmannGeezer
Honda Passport Ignition
VanillaMowgli
Housecat Petting Intensity.
skipweasel
Hentai Pantie Images
KarmannGeezer
Hagfish Penile Implant
skipweasel
Oooh, slimy.
g4rF
Sorry guys, can't seem to edit my post to let you know that I misused the french term HPI, wanting to say High Intellectual Efficiency. So, not that efficient.
Mostlydeadpool
so, you're just bored all the time then? :)
RummageSaleBubbler
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twice_exceptional ?
oakleaves
I’ve come to the belief/opinion that the “sensitivity to criticism” is less an inherent deficit and more a predisposition due to common cultural/developmental conditions.
Basically, instead of a simple aversion to criticism (pushback from a single direction) it’s a “rock and hard place” situation where the person is caught having to question if they are being criticized (“wrong”) because they are actually wrong, because the other person can’t/won’t understand, or because the data isn’t “liked”.
oakleaves
This then looks like being overly sensitive because what the “critic” sees as a simple correction is actually creating/engaging a cascade of challenging questions & thought processes that aren’t recognized (let alone teaching the kid how to deal with the mess) until there is an emotional outburst which is also handled/viewed through low processing “normal” (mis)understanding (usually primarily via “projection”).
Of course this same pattern could apply to a lot of the other “deficits” as well.
oakleaves
Effectively, most of the problems of ND could largely be externalized consequences of neurotypical (NT) society.
NT society prioritizes & relies heavily on folks NOT questioning or challenging common thinking/assumptions/views/beliefs because it’s much easier/more efficient for masses of people to cohabitate & work effectively together if everyone conforms to a broad array of “norms” that allow mass understanding similar to all sharing common language, geopolitical, & socioeconomic backgrounds.
JamesTDG
*reads deficits*
Oh fuck...