The United States is a disgusting excuse for a country and nobody should associate with them. Pariah state. Go sit with North Korea, you fucking deplorable pieces of shit.
It's a cult not a party. They don't think of anything beyond: "No matter what Trump does, I can say Obama or Biden did it first. No need to ever look anything up.". They are that fucking stupid.
I work in a jail, and the worst part of my job is dealing with ICE detainees. An overwhelming majority of them have committed no (or very minor - traffic violation, alcohol intox.) crimes. These are people who are working hard, just trying to carve a life for themselves in America, and whether the Republicans want to admit it or not, play an EXTREMELY important role in the day-to-day operations of the United States.
Exactly. If Democrats protest about it they will always think "Yes great. We own them so hard." Until they are the ones who go to prison. Then it's again "I didn't know. I didn't vote for this. Why me? Why didn't Democrats do anything against that?"
Despite the "leopard ate my face!" stories we love to hear, maga support for dear leedur is still quite high. The ones that complained about high prices under Biden are now willing to pay even more under trump because they think they are going to live in a rich racist utopia. They probably don't ever hear about stories like this one and assume that everyone deported is a rapist with pockets full of fentanyl and a machine gun.
"A psychopath is a person characterized by a personality disorder marked by a lack of empathy, remorse, and guilt, often exhibiting manipulative and deceitful behaviors."
Any maggat capable of changing their mind did so a long time ago, there is nothing that will do it now. There aren't enough psychologists who specialize in breaking brain washing in existence to save them. The new messiah can do no wrong in their eyes. And anyone who isn't a maggat needs to wrap their heads around this.
You can, with the threat of force. You either treat people decently, or we're gonna have problems.
I've dealt with abusers of all kinds for YEARS, and I've learned that, for those who lack empathy, you need to make the consequences too severe to ignore. You need to give them enough reason to stay in line.
It turned long ago when they had a chance to make peace in Afghanistan after they helped them fight off the Russians, they could have spent very little of their budget rebuilding the country, as Charlie Wilson wanted to do.
Always been a pile, but trump and his cuckpatrol just pulled back the curtain, and showed everyone how badly it really is all going. Our politicians are complicit, our economy is nose diving at Mach 5, Nazis and racists think they're in the right and feel lauded.
And we're going to have the same happen in the UK, Reform are on the rise, they're our Trump party. The very first thing they made a big deal of doing when they won a number of local elections was to ban any flags other than English and UK flag. There was push back due to county and local flags like the red rose. In reality what they're banning are LGBT flags.
When I was in the UK in January, I saw a few Ukrainian flags in home and shop windows. Not familiar with your Reform Party but something tells me they wouldn't like that either.
30/40% of the US is made of assholes, fed russian propaganda by FOX and all of the RW media bubble, and able to outvote "sane" people thanks to the electoral college and gerrymandering. Good luck USA.
Protest is better than nothing. Many people just don't care about all of this cause they aren't inconvenienced and because they fear to become inconvenienced by taking any form of action.
I don't care if they're born here, if they're here illegally, if they're criminals, or gang members. They are entitled to due process. If they're not, none of us are.
It really does bother me how so much of the discussion around these cases emphasize that they're american citizens or US-born or whatever. It wouldn't be okay to render people to a foreign gulag even if they are migrants, refugees, asylum seekers, undocumented, any of it. It's still not okay, and emphasizing their legal status implies that it would be okay if they didnt have the legal status... No, this is the GOP'S narrative which I find wholly repugnant.
Because people are really bad at empathy if it's an "other". You have to speak their language and get it through to them that these people are like them. Particularly the minorities who want to pull the ladder up after them.
Yup, if it's allowed to continue all that needs to happen is for them to say you're a criminal/gang member and send your ass to a gulag in another country. No due process means you can't prove they are lying.
I think this whole isolationism and tribe mentality bullshit is dumb.
Taking care of people from any country is how it should be. Especially if they’re bloody kids.
Screw this whole concept of drawing invisible lines between countries and continents.
Gather up all the rich, the racists, the bigots, the sadists, all the assholes; stick em on a rocket and shoot it into Mars. They’re enterprising, they’ll do fine.
And let the rest of us get on with being a proper species.
I like where your heart is at but I have to disagree on the invisible lines between countries. They exist for a very good reason. They separate ideas and values. What is deemed acceptable and allowed on one side of the line can be repugnant on the other side. If we didn't have those separations, a trump could be ruling the world. I hope one day we can evolve and reach the point where we all generally agree on the same values and borders become obsolete but I don't think we're quite there yet
Those ideas and values aren't actually different for the vast majority of people. And countries like Canada and America exist just fine sharing space with people from diverse backgrounds. The issue ONLY exists with powerful men who want more power and THAT is why borders exist. To keep them from taking from each other. That's it.
Ah sorry. I was under the impression you wanted to get rid of borders, which on paper sounds great, but in reality could be absolutely horrible. I didn't realize you saw the value in borders
Las Vegas exists, and it has different laws than all of the states bordering its own, was which some may find repugnant. But that does not restrict your freedom to cross these imaginary lines.
People are people fam, there is no real concrete distinction. Shitheads are everywhere, and any nation is prone to being ruled by such shitheads, especially if isolationist cause "muh our values are better." Youre literally calling other cultures subhuman or what? All nowaday countries are melting pots anyway, just at a slow controlled rate which also allows people to smooch as much off off them as possible.
"You're literally calling other cultures subhuman or what" Yes!!! The way people are treated in South Korea IS subhuman. People being pulled off the streets into unmarked vans in China screaming that they are not going to kill themselves so people know what happened when they die IS subhuman A culture that tortures and murders homosexuals just because they love someone they "shouldnt" Is subhuman. Cultures that support slavery or pedophilia (rape) are subhuman. There ARE concrete distinctions!
Okay yeah youre right there chief but are they whole cultures though? Like for example irans culture has not always been religious extremism, as an example. I think we gotta be a little careful to how we refer to these
Wait, is there a permanent immigration checkpoint between two Texas cities? Y'all have so much freedom you can't even travel in the same state without proving citizenship?
They have the freedom to be deported to an El Salvador hellhole prison if you forget your ID once and aren't as white as paper. Thst is one freedom you don't get anywhere else in the world!
January 31. A family was having their daughter treated at a Shriners' hospital when ICE cancelled their visas. The plane taking them back to Mexico crashed killing everyone aboard.
John Oliver did a recent segment on his show that summed things to pretty easily. The Trump administration ran on a platform of "getting rid of the dangerous illegal immigrants" and how gangs like MS13 had infiltrated the US and we were just lousy with gang affiliated, illegal immigrant, ruffians, and how his administration would deport all of these "bad people". It was all lies. So they've tried to deport some folk who qualify as "bad people" to satisfy their campaign promises, but it turns-
-out that there just aren't that many "bad seeds" out there amongst the immigrants. Who'd have fucking thunk that people fleeing shitty situations, who were in this country under tenuous circumstances, would somehow be extra careful about keeping their proverbial noses clean. Fucking shocker, right? So Trump's people are panicking because of this and just grabbing who they can, all so they don't look weak or whatever bullshit, so they go after low hanging fruit and are just deporting whoever-
Because you don't separate parents from their children. There was a whole big thing about it. The children are *NOT* being deported. The parents are and they choose to take the kid. In this case they were attempting to visit the US for follow up medical appointments and were denied entry. Someone spun that into "they are deporting us citizens."
Jesus Christ. If you're going to be this pedantic at least read the article. They weren't denied entry. They were arrested, taken into custody, then fucking deported.
Screenshot saved so you can come back when you are ready to explain why the child should have been stolen from the parents. Go ahead. We'll wait. Christ people here are stupid. You have a family of 3 where neither parent has a legal right of entry into the US. You expect us to kidnap the child against their will? What the actual fuck? What's your solution without breaking the law?
cmdshift3
No “might be” about it
nubblebun
The United States is a disgusting excuse for a country and nobody should associate with them. Pariah state. Go sit with North Korea, you fucking deplorable pieces of shit.
djangojazz
It's a cult not a party. They don't think of anything beyond: "No matter what Trump does, I can say Obama or Biden did it first. No need to ever look anything up.". They are that fucking stupid.
artie500
Not even "might." ARE!!!
TorvusBull
I work in a jail, and the worst part of my job is dealing with ICE detainees. An overwhelming majority of them have committed no (or very minor - traffic violation, alcohol intox.) crimes. These are people who are working hard, just trying to carve a life for themselves in America, and whether the Republicans want to admit it or not, play an EXTREMELY important role in the day-to-day operations of the United States.
Safflower777
He is pure evil.
TheWorldAccordingToAtlas
If a child with cancer is deported to a country with universal healthcare, does it become less cruel?
Shoutrr
...a whole lot of you are ok with children being killed in school regularly. being offended by that is kinda low balling it
hamulusrex
I think as long as Trump crosses the line these people will just redraw it. Because it's a cult.
CrumpetsWithHoneyAreCrumpetsWithBeeVomit
It is a cult.
youreathing
"WE'RE GONNA GET RID OF THAT ARTIFICIALLY DRAWN LINE, NO ONE KNOWS WHO DID IT... COULD BE...BIDEN AS EVERYONE KNOWS, YOU KNOW IT, I DO TOO."
twoamartist
This.
DVSBSTrD
They want him to keep crossing the line because they're EVIL!
Vladraconis
Not so much that it's a cult, as that they are pieces of rotten shit themselves. And this brings them joy.
4Astaroth
Exactly. If Democrats protest about it they will always think "Yes great. We own them so hard." Until they are the ones who go to prison. Then it's again "I didn't know. I didn't vote for this. Why me? Why didn't Democrats do anything against that?"
PeeterGrant
Despite the "leopard ate my face!" stories we love to hear, maga support for dear leedur is still quite high. The ones that complained about high prices under Biden are now willing to pay even more under trump because they think they are going to live in a rich racist utopia. They probably don't ever hear about stories like this one and assume that everyone deported is a rapist with pockets full of fentanyl and a machine gun.
dingybasement350
They hear stories like this and it makes them hard.
PeeterGrant
"A psychopath is a person characterized by a personality disorder marked by a lack of empathy, remorse, and guilt, often exhibiting manipulative and deceitful behaviors."
magus200342
Any maggat capable of changing their mind did so a long time ago, there is nothing that will do it now. There aren't enough psychologists who specialize in breaking brain washing in existence to save them. The new messiah can do no wrong in their eyes. And anyone who isn't a maggat needs to wrap their heads around this.
NonstopRampage
At this point, they're just nazis, and you don't deradicalize nazis. That's not how you get rid of them.
Ttoften
What do you mean "might be"?
sivaaKing
I can’t really remember the last time I cried but this photo takes me to a place that that’s what I want to do.
ximzadix
not might be, ARE a steaming pile of shit
idrinkcheapbeer
You can't ever explain basic empathy to people who don't get it. You can't ever expect basic empathy from people who don't get it.
NonstopRampage
You can, with the threat of force. You either treat people decently, or we're gonna have problems.
I've dealt with abusers of all kinds for YEARS, and I've learned that, for those who lack empathy, you need to make the consequences too severe to ignore. You need to give them enough reason to stay in line.
SedatedSl0th
Are* not might be. FTFY
MotoCanuck
They crossed the line long before this, and deserve to be punished severely for such immoral and heinous actions.
JunkFoodVanDame
First they cam for the cancer sick children.... oh, wow. This IS the crappiest time line.
Kittenman15
Yeah, that was a rather shocking video...
GoneSolo
If it doesn't cross your line in the sand you deserved to be buried in it.
belindashort
At this point in the indoctrination there isn't a line too far for them they can't go back
Sulanis
I'll fix it. "You are a steaming pile of shit."
Rijtjeshuis
Understand this: there is no red line or line in the sand for them. They will not stop themselves.
aqueueforyou
Yup, in fact historically all they do is turn around and claim it was good for you
SpamYarBlockers
Remember there is no hate as strong as Republican Christian “Love”
doctorId
For some people the only things on the other side of the line are them and their loved ones. Everyone else can get fucked.
cevapi10upola
Or 30,000 Palestinian children slaughtered in Gaza
c2zvgsVillain
America has turned into a steaming pile of shit
Turkleturts
Always has been
NothingPrince
It turned long ago when they had a chance to make peace in Afghanistan after they helped them fight off the Russians, they could have spent very little of their budget rebuilding the country, as Charlie Wilson wanted to do.
Apollymkatistrafia
Always been a pile, but trump and his cuckpatrol just pulled back the curtain, and showed everyone how badly it really is all going. Our politicians are complicit, our economy is nose diving at Mach 5, Nazis and racists think they're in the right and feel lauded.
It's a shitshow all they way.
SnowmanHitInTheFaceWithALackOfCreativity
It was always going to end that way. It was a nation founded by traitors and built by slaves. It's a miracle it lasted as long as it did
Vladraconis
Rotten shit. Please do not insult fresh steaming shit. It's actually a very good fertilizer.
Pats0r
It already was after trump1, its just getting bigger each day with trump2.
Nikolai5
And we're going to have the same happen in the UK, Reform are on the rise, they're our Trump party. The very first thing they made a big deal of doing when they won a number of local elections was to ban any flags other than English and UK flag. There was push back due to county and local flags like the red rose. In reality what they're banning are LGBT flags.
Nikolai5
But they're too chicken shit to say it, because like Trump they're moronic cowardly bullies.
LokiShade
When I was in the UK in January, I saw a few Ukrainian flags in home and shop windows. Not familiar with your Reform Party but something tells me they wouldn't like that either.
Jandegrote
Was a pile of shit far before Trump he just made it a very big pile.
Sebastopol140
30/40% of the US is made of assholes, fed russian propaganda by FOX and all of the RW media bubble, and able to outvote "sane" people thanks to the electoral college and gerrymandering. Good luck USA.
Plagen
And unfortunately those that aren't asshole mostly don't feel like taking any drastic, life-changing action to resolve the issue.
4Astaroth
If they don't care they are also assholes.
Plagen
Well so far, I haven't heard about anyone doing anything about this in a drastic, life-changing way. The extent of what I've seen are protests.
4Astaroth
Protest is better than nothing. Many people just don't care about all of this cause they aren't inconvenienced and because they fear to become inconvenienced by taking any form of action.
IHaveAGuyForEverything
We gonna need it.
ScottPilgrimVSTheIndians
This FOR SURE crosses the line, but we can almost guarantee one thing... she'll get better healthcare than in the US.
Ultracrepidarianmonkey
That's kinda what I was thinking especially since RFKjr took the helm of health department. That guy is looking to cull the herd for sure!
CrazedDrifter
I don't care if they're born here, if they're here illegally, if they're criminals, or gang members. They are entitled to due process. If they're not, none of us are.
Isorikk
"How do you know they're illegal?"
remotelogcabin
Due process
Rhythmaster
It really does bother me how so much of the discussion around these cases emphasize that they're american citizens or US-born or whatever. It wouldn't be okay to render people to a foreign gulag even if they are migrants, refugees, asylum seekers, undocumented, any of it. It's still not okay, and emphasizing their legal status implies that it would be okay if they didnt have the legal status... No, this is the GOP'S narrative which I find wholly repugnant.
eetsumkaus
Because people are really bad at empathy if it's an "other". You have to speak their language and get it through to them that these people are like them. Particularly the minorities who want to pull the ladder up after them.
StellarJay77
Yup, if it's allowed to continue all that needs to happen is for them to say you're a criminal/gang member and send your ass to a gulag in another country. No due process means you can't prove they are lying.
unluckyandbored
That's not a bug, it's a feature. The GOP wants to get rid of due process and skip straight to hanging people in public.
EclipsePhase
Let's say it plainly. They don't just want to bring back public hanging, they want to bring back lynching.
KommanderKayriel
Switch it up and do it to them first. All of them. Now we never have to worry about it ever again!
Puppies717
Exactly, take America back to when it "was" great. 🙄
SeaGooseAB
I am afraid that is the point.
shankelstoff
"None of you are, huh...? Go on
..." - Putin
dghkghrb
Step 1: Read the Statue of Liberty Poem.
Step 2: Live and Enforce it
StevieTheAussie
I think this whole isolationism and tribe mentality bullshit is dumb.
Taking care of people from any country is how it should be. Especially if they’re bloody kids.
Screw this whole concept of drawing invisible lines between countries and continents.
Gather up all the rich, the racists, the bigots, the sadists, all the assholes; stick em on a rocket and shoot it into Mars. They’re enterprising, they’ll do fine.
And let the rest of us get on with being a proper species.
belindashort
And we have plenty of room we have just decided to hoard resources instead of distribute them
MrStealUrChange
I like where your heart is at but I have to disagree on the invisible lines between countries.
They exist for a very good reason.
They separate ideas and values. What is deemed acceptable and allowed on one side of the line can be repugnant on the other side.
If we didn't have those separations, a trump could be ruling the world.
I hope one day we can evolve and reach the point where we all generally agree on the same values and borders become obsolete but I don't think we're quite there yet
Strategicgnomer
Those ideas and values aren't actually different for the vast majority of people. And countries like Canada and America exist just fine sharing space with people from diverse backgrounds. The issue ONLY exists with powerful men who want more power and THAT is why borders exist. To keep them from taking from each other. That's it.
MrStealUrChange
No.
Sorry that is incorrect.
I could easily list off 100 ways ideas and values are VERY different.
Strategicgnomer
Go on then.
StevieTheAussie
That’s… kinda what I was alluding to mate; but glad we’re on the same page.
Hexarcy00
What were you alluding to?
MrStealUrChange
Ah sorry. I was under the impression you wanted to get rid of borders, which on paper sounds great, but in reality could be absolutely horrible.
I didn't realize you saw the value in borders
RAJrios
Las Vegas exists, and it has different laws than all of the states bordering its own, was which some may find repugnant. But that does not restrict your freedom to cross these imaginary lines.
Emrys12
People are people fam, there is no real concrete distinction. Shitheads are everywhere, and any nation is prone to being ruled by such shitheads, especially if isolationist cause "muh our values are better." Youre literally calling other cultures subhuman or what? All nowaday countries are melting pots anyway, just at a slow controlled rate which also allows people to smooch as much off off them as possible.
MrStealUrChange
"You're literally calling other cultures subhuman or what"
Yes!!!
The way people are treated in South Korea IS subhuman.
People being pulled off the streets into unmarked vans in China screaming that they are not going to kill themselves so people know what happened when they die IS subhuman
A culture that tortures and murders homosexuals just because they love someone they "shouldnt" Is subhuman.
Cultures that support slavery or pedophilia (rape) are subhuman.
There ARE concrete distinctions!
Emrys12
Okay yeah youre right there chief but are they whole cultures though? Like for example irans culture has not always been religious extremism, as an example. I think we gotta be a little careful to how we refer to these
Chromentor
I heard that there is a competition between the US and Israel who has the least moral.
NothingPrince
Unfortuatly Israel is winning that
dingybasement350
For now.
Plagen
Idk about unfortunately. As an American, I'd like us to not be the least moral.
NickRivieraMD
I think they mean unfortunate in the lengths to which Israel has gone.
RetrogradeLlama
Yeah, but they didn’t actually deport her. They deported her mother. Her mother didn’t want to leave her behind.
So, it’s all her mother’s fault! /S
georgejimmydoodle
That's how the Republicans are justifying it.
ILoveDownvotingAITrash
It's incredibly sad that I've actually seen, more than one person, non-sarcastically, make that exact argument.
Superstzday
you're wrong though.
THIS IS A DIFFERENT US CITIZEN CHILD WITH CANCER THEY DEPORTED.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/us-citizen-child-recovering-brain-cancer-deported-mexico-undocumented-rcna196049
mirhagk
Wait, is there a permanent immigration checkpoint between two Texas cities? Y'all have so much freedom you can't even travel in the same state without proving citizenship?
FlowerIsland
They have the freedom to be deported to an El Salvador hellhole prison if you forget your ID once and aren't as white as paper. Thst is one freedom you don't get anywhere else in the world!
Superstzday
HOW ARE THERE FUCKING TWO.
Hevach
There are three. The first one died on that plane that crashed in Pennsylvania while being transported to a deportation center.
NotTheMamaNotTheMama
A plane crashed????? What?
Hevach
January 31. A family was having their daughter treated at a Shriners' hospital when ICE cancelled their visas. The plane taking them back to Mexico crashed killing everyone aboard.
smorsdoeuvres
Why am I afraid there are many more that just haven’t been reported
Sageypie
John Oliver did a recent segment on his show that summed things to pretty easily. The Trump administration ran on a platform of "getting rid of the dangerous illegal immigrants" and how gangs like MS13 had infiltrated the US and we were just lousy with gang affiliated, illegal immigrant, ruffians, and how his administration would deport all of these "bad people". It was all lies. So they've tried to deport some folk who qualify as "bad people" to satisfy their campaign promises, but it turns-
Sageypie
-out that there just aren't that many "bad seeds" out there amongst the immigrants. Who'd have fucking thunk that people fleeing shitty situations, who were in this country under tenuous circumstances, would somehow be extra careful about keeping their proverbial noses clean. Fucking shocker, right? So Trump's people are panicking because of this and just grabbing who they can, all so they don't look weak or whatever bullshit, so they go after low hanging fruit and are just deporting whoever-
RicheTheBuddha
If I had a nickel for every time...
meskarune
There has been a hell of a lot more over the years that don't make the news
IconicM
So far...
haytur
Because they are working on deporting more. Because they are god loving people.
Matty3D
Because the US is currently a steaming pile of shit.
FlowerIsland
I beg to differ. It is a puddle of diarrhea, covered in chunky vomit.
starwingcorona
GIMike1972
unluckyandbored
I'm shocked there haven't been more than that.
sunyudai
.... There were three.
unluckyandbored
Unfortunate500
Because you don't separate parents from their children. There was a whole big thing about it. The children are *NOT* being deported. The parents are and they choose to take the kid.
In this case they were attempting to visit the US for follow up medical appointments and were denied entry.
Someone spun that into "they are deporting us citizens."
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TeddyMoment
Jesus Christ. If you're going to be this pedantic at least read the article.
They weren't denied entry.
They were arrested, taken into custody, then fucking deported.
SakuraSunsets
Superstzday
the 2 year old definitely was deporting a child, shut the fuck up, idiot.
Hammertulski
You gonna delete this? I bet you come back and delete this and pretend it never happened.
Unfortunate500
Screenshot saved so you can come back when you are ready to explain why the child should have been stolen from the parents. Go ahead. We'll wait.
Christ people here are stupid. You have a family of 3 where neither parent has a legal right of entry into the US. You expect us to kidnap the child against their will? What the actual fuck?
What's your solution without breaking the law?
catsnroombas
We won't pretend, though.