Jan 12, 2023 7:42 PM
simplefishy
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Did he return the guys stapler?
office_space
crime
caughtredhanded
programmer
Burke616
The characters of Office Space make a point of getting the idea for the plot from Superman III
shmoogeeoogee
Pretty sure Jennifer Aniston was far from the star of the show
Davidnfilms
Officespace Project... How bored was this dude?
BobAllen2004
Should went with the tried and true
donglewood
Let's not JUMP to conclusions...
OmnipotentBeing
jtxyz
It was stolen from Superman III. They even acknowledged that IN Office space!
vorodar
And the file that was on the machine bore the name "OfficeSpace". I doubt the dude traced the origin of the idea when he picked it.
squirreltactics
Thumbs up their asses.
Plagen
So, the only reason he got caught is because the idiot turned in the laptop with the documents on it? What an idiot.
wannabeuk
There is a massive issues with "gig" programmers who develop e-commerce sites doing the same kinda thing.
somnif
The films' version diverted partial cents that were normally rounded off to zero into a separate account. A wee bit different than this.
(Granted, a coding error Resulted in them accidentally stealing quite a bit more, but that wasn't really intentional)
GoblinTit
Sounds like someone has a case of the Mondays!
TheUnstoppableWampas
artifactcreature
BORGALOOGIE
v
Targe0
This type of scam doesn't work anymore. With modern monitoring systems, you are going to get caught. The loophole the movie used doesn't ->
exist any more.
trigonman3
So weird that this guy used a different scheme then.
irisewithredeyes
Did... did they set the building on fire afterwards?
Dracongield
no, that is why he got caught
oilypenguintoo
Oh, like Superman 3.
VastMajorityRule
Thumbs up thier asses
beoff
Thank you
gorillaClutch
"Fuck em." Hard to argue with that excuse.
JamesAHarrod
Dumbass didn’t reset his own laptop before giving it back… he deserved it
silviotheegreat
What. Why wouldn't you wipe the laptop before giving it back? Zeroing it out.
gis4gif
Oh! Well, this not a mundane detail, Michael!
DesdemonaMoor
Somebody's going to federal fuck me in the ass prison.
depressedscientist
Why would you steal the shipping fees? Both the shipper and the company would catch on quickly. That doesn’t seem like office space at all
squelcheswetly
It does sound like he had this running for a while. So maybe whatever it was wasn’t too obvious.
ccman87
Says he started it May of last year and was arrested in June, not that long if you factor in evidence gathering before arrest
800lbJeezuz
Maybe he inflated the figure shown to the customer and then took the extra?
That would be smarter. But that’s not what they reported. Maybe they didn’t state it correctly
lagweezle
I'd be shocked if they actually stated it correctly in the news story.
Sooner70
Or maybe transfer all half pennies to your account....
CannotBeBanned
I write shipping sw. Trust me when I say no one would notice for months or years. Shoppers bill direct, company pays direct, acct bal eoy.
PinkEater
Idiots. The idea came from Superman 3. They literally said it in the Office Space movie.
ChristopherHallett
Where did Superman 3 get the idea from?
Mátyás Rákosi
SchwiftyGameOnPoint
If we are saying he "borrowed" the idea, why couldn't he "borrow" from the company?
Only the executives get to do that and get away with it.
RawfishFood
It didn’t even work in the movie.
Deederpool
Those fucking tps reports
SerenePrincess013
Oh no, he stole a couple hundred grand from a fast fashion company that is blasé about children sewing their clothing for pennies a month.?
onlyhalfghost
like the man says, "fuck 'em."
reallynotmikepence
Is that how we judge crimes? Well you killed someone but it was just a homeless guy so 30 days.
Yes, bc murder OF A HUMAN LIFE is the same thing as a couple hundred grand. Please yell louder "I'M A SIMP AND A WHORE FOR BILLIONAIRES".
There's the ad hominem attack. When you realize you are wrong, you attack. Classic.
Relicanth
If you want to talk logical fallacies, you opened with a strawman argument. They countered then attacked. Plenty of mud slinging to go round
Oh, you didn't like having your own fallacy thrown in your face so you called out someone else's? Know what that's called? Pot, meet kettle.
He forgot the critical part about getting away with it
F4ndango
I guess no one burned the building down.
Exactly
einthedog2
I wish ther would be something against this like...code review?
I’ve seen places that barely bother with code reviews
That is true, still surprised
BoreasTheNorthWind
There is no code review in the ASAP country...
pocketpython
No matter how much companies say they do it, it only happens at a basic level - boils down to "Does it break things in an noticeable way?"
tinydog
Oh, screw you, article. She was a minor, uninteresting character not essential to the plot.
ForUnlawfulCarnalKnowledge
Made me really have to think for a min. about what movie it was I went to see that day. I forgot she was even in the movie.
marthafarquar
Besamel
It also had nothing to do with a computer virus
Dlebful
Malicious code, which gets really into semantics.
TotallyNotABrat
yeah that ... the writer def never watched office space. They just looked up the cast and looked for the biggest actor name they knew.
oriyagi
You just thought she was uninteresting because she didn't have enough pieces of flair.
pintDMG
She does technically have a Starring credit on it. But then, so do Ron Livingston and Gary Cole...
SomeDetroitGuy
Her character was only really there to be a foil for Ron Livingston's character.
BaronessVanDerBlam
Yup. She was there for the "how is that not stealing" scene, which is important.
ItsaMeFranman
Home alone 2 staring Donald Trump
AlmostCertainlyNotPickles
I was gonna call that out, too. Ron Livingston played the main character. I guess she was the biggest name closest to the central role.
UrbanShire
Disappointed they didn't credit Michael Bolton...
mrgreen326
I always thought it was Charlie sheen for the longest time until I rewatched it a few years ago
Charliewinz
Winning.
AgainstMethod
I don't know about minor. She had maybe the third most screen time?
jenw
I mean, it's kinda hilarious when you think about it.
ontarioOT
You're just upset Lumberg fucked her.
HarryDresdenIsMySpiritAnimal
LUMBERG fucked her??
turbodog
OH OH OH OH OH OH face
PballQhead
Wear a rubber dude.
OmnesMundiLardum
DrRad
And yet, it was the only decent role she’s ever had.
linkdk59
I don't even remember her at all from that film
She was the main love interest.
Oh man. Honestly, I don't even remember a love interest. I should rewatch it maybe
Mm. I'd argue that her being happy in a "menial" server job was quite critical to the plot - Michael ended up happy in his "menial" job.
*Was* she happy in her job? Being lectured over wearing the bare minimum pieces of flair?
DaveMeowthewz
But the movie was not about her as much as Peter, Samir, and Michael.
They were the main protagonists, sure, but she was the one who made Peter realize he didn't need his fancy "career" to be happy.
It's like talking about the dark, dystopian cult classic Fight Club, which starred Meatloaf and nobody else. Robert Paulson was vital to the
Plot but he's no way the main character
Geistbar
Did you watch the same movie I did? She hated her job too.
Okay, poor choice of words…her acceptance of her shit job, leaving the hatred of it at the door when she left, was a key theme in the film.
astrangehop
She also made a lateral move to a place that wasn't quite as horrible
TheZommie
she showed how much she detested her job by wearing the exact amount of flair that was required, instead of more than the minimum
CriticalCritic
Yeah... but you gotta admit, she had flair!
justareallylongemailaddress
No. Did you not pay attention!?! She did not have the required amount of flair.
No, she had the bare minimum. What do you think of a person who only does the bare minimum?
Oh yeah? Well,
Remember guys, always wipe your machines before returning them to IT. I recommend Dban.org
I recommend an open field, a baseball bat, and a fire.
rhubarbarian
DidItForScience
Just don't keep copies of illegal plans about your employer on your employer's equipment. And obfuscate/encrypt your plans if you write them
IamGelatinSkelly
Both is good
FuzzyX
And your modified code should be self deleting if it does not hear from you within a set time frame like if you get fired.
evilgriff
Ruderali
We have live copies of your machines. We dont give a shit and management are cunts. Just buy us a beer and tell us what not to see.
SomeGrayFox
I'm amazed someone so smart could be so dumb.
BronkLuonk
There was actually probably no way to erase the scripts, depending on their infrastructure. Usually companies have a record of every deploym
Ent so that if any problem occurs they can go back to the most recent working version
MWM75
A company with a good security policy won't allow addition of un-authorized apps or external media.
WombatHammer
Alternatively, if you stole $300K from work, just thermite the drives and say you broke the work laptop. Whatever, pay them a couple grand.
thundercactus
Also, keep important data in private cloud accounts so you can wipe the access from work computers remotely.
Just dont do shit on work computers. Until you work in IT you dont realise the access we have. You literally cant hide stuff from us on ther
Just dont do shit on work computers. Until you work in IT you dont realise how access we have, they are OUR property, we treat them as such.
terajack2048
You don’t think that can pierce a cloud with a warrant ?
I don't think they'll find malicious code on it by accident *without* a warrant.
Assuming that accessing private cloud accounts with your work computer isn't already a firing offense (it is around here!).
Chloramphenicol
It's not your machine, it's the company's.
They can reinstall a fresh build. That was my job. I wiped everything before the fresh build anyway.
Yes, *they* do the rebuild; you don't wipe it for them.
Agree to disagree
FlatPlutoSociety
I recommend just not returning your machine to IT.
If I stole 300k and had evidence on my laptop I'd just destroy the laptop and tell em to bill me.
Right? Just fucking thermite it. That shit isn't hard to make. Or am I weird, and just know how to make it?
Open an IT ticket that says "Accidentally dropped laptop into open bonfire."
DonnaDeadpool
Wipe it clean then destroy it just to be extra safe.
justadudewholovescats
Nuke it from orbit
MySushi
Dban is okay but has limitations, especially as most workstation laptops use SSDs these days. Could use some open-source alternatives
gtollie
HaHaHaWTFguy
What limitations does Dban have with SSDs?
BlastFX
Which is both a positive and a negative. Short of running the secure erase command (which erases the entire drive), you can't ensure 1/2
data is actually destroyed, however, thanks to TRIM, most data *is* destroyed immediately. (Learned that the hard way.) 2/2
OverwhelmingSurplusOfDiggity
All you need to do is the ssd hardware wipe, which uses the built-in encryption. Alternative choice: don’t steal.
It's been years since I've used it and my laptop still has a cd rom, so I didn't consider that.
I just run a linux live cd which I keep on a usb stick, install wipe after enabling universe repositories, then run it with the needed flags
Takes time for full disk, so you gotta plan ahead. Better to keep smaller partitions for system & data, so you can pick what you need wiped
Burke616
The characters of Office Space make a point of getting the idea for the plot from Superman III
shmoogeeoogee
Pretty sure Jennifer Aniston was far from the star of the show
Davidnfilms
Officespace Project... How bored was this dude?
BobAllen2004
Should went with the tried and true
donglewood
Let's not JUMP to conclusions...
OmnipotentBeing
jtxyz
It was stolen from Superman III. They even acknowledged that IN Office space!
vorodar
And the file that was on the machine bore the name "OfficeSpace". I doubt the dude traced the origin of the idea when he picked it.
squirreltactics
Thumbs up their asses.
Plagen
So, the only reason he got caught is because the idiot turned in the laptop with the documents on it? What an idiot.
wannabeuk
There is a massive issues with "gig" programmers who develop e-commerce sites doing the same kinda thing.
somnif
The films' version diverted partial cents that were normally rounded off to zero into a separate account. A wee bit different than this.
somnif
(Granted, a coding error Resulted in them accidentally stealing quite a bit more, but that wasn't really intentional)
GoblinTit
Sounds like someone has a case of the Mondays!
TheUnstoppableWampas
artifactcreature
BORGALOOGIE
Targe0
This type of scam doesn't work anymore. With modern monitoring systems, you are going to get caught. The loophole the movie used doesn't ->
Targe0
exist any more.
trigonman3
So weird that this guy used a different scheme then.
irisewithredeyes
Did... did they set the building on fire afterwards?
Dracongield
no, that is why he got caught
oilypenguintoo
Oh, like Superman 3.
VastMajorityRule
Thumbs up thier asses
beoff
Thank you
gorillaClutch
"Fuck em." Hard to argue with that excuse.
JamesAHarrod
Dumbass didn’t reset his own laptop before giving it back… he deserved it
silviotheegreat
What. Why wouldn't you wipe the laptop before giving it back? Zeroing it out.
gis4gif
DesdemonaMoor
Somebody's going to federal fuck me in the ass prison.
depressedscientist
Why would you steal the shipping fees? Both the shipper and the company would catch on quickly. That doesn’t seem like office space at all
squelcheswetly
It does sound like he had this running for a while. So maybe whatever it was wasn’t too obvious.
ccman87
Says he started it May of last year and was arrested in June, not that long if you factor in evidence gathering before arrest
800lbJeezuz
Maybe he inflated the figure shown to the customer and then took the extra?
depressedscientist
That would be smarter. But that’s not what they reported. Maybe they didn’t state it correctly
lagweezle
I'd be shocked if they actually stated it correctly in the news story.
Sooner70
Or maybe transfer all half pennies to your account....
CannotBeBanned
I write shipping sw. Trust me when I say no one would notice for months or years. Shoppers bill direct, company pays direct, acct bal eoy.
PinkEater
Idiots. The idea came from Superman 3. They literally said it in the Office Space movie.
ChristopherHallett
Where did Superman 3 get the idea from?
PinkEater
Mátyás Rákosi
SchwiftyGameOnPoint
If we are saying he "borrowed" the idea, why couldn't he "borrow" from the company?
Targe0
Only the executives get to do that and get away with it.
RawfishFood
It didn’t even work in the movie.
Deederpool
Those fucking tps reports
SerenePrincess013
Oh no, he stole a couple hundred grand from a fast fashion company that is blasé about children sewing their clothing for pennies a month.?
onlyhalfghost
like the man says, "fuck 'em."
reallynotmikepence
Is that how we judge crimes? Well you killed someone but it was just a homeless guy so 30 days.
SerenePrincess013
Yes, bc murder OF A HUMAN LIFE is the same thing as a couple hundred grand. Please yell louder "I'M A SIMP AND A WHORE FOR BILLIONAIRES".
reallynotmikepence
There's the ad hominem attack. When you realize you are wrong, you attack. Classic.
Relicanth
If you want to talk logical fallacies, you opened with a strawman argument. They countered then attacked. Plenty of mud slinging to go round
SerenePrincess013
Oh, you didn't like having your own fallacy thrown in your face so you called out someone else's? Know what that's called? Pot, meet kettle.
shmoogeeoogee
He forgot the critical part about getting away with it
F4ndango
I guess no one burned the building down.
shmoogeeoogee
Exactly
einthedog2
I wish ther would be something against this like...code review?
simplefishy
I’ve seen places that barely bother with code reviews
einthedog2
That is true, still surprised
BoreasTheNorthWind
There is no code review in the ASAP country...
pocketpython
No matter how much companies say they do it, it only happens at a basic level - boils down to "Does it break things in an noticeable way?"
tinydog
Oh, screw you, article. She was a minor, uninteresting character not essential to the plot.
ForUnlawfulCarnalKnowledge
Made me really have to think for a min. about what movie it was I went to see that day. I forgot she was even in the movie.
marthafarquar
Besamel
It also had nothing to do with a computer virus
Dlebful
Malicious code, which gets really into semantics.
TotallyNotABrat
yeah that ... the writer def never watched office space. They just looked up the cast and looked for the biggest actor name they knew.
oriyagi
You just thought she was uninteresting because she didn't have enough pieces of flair.
pintDMG
She does technically have a Starring credit on it. But then, so do Ron Livingston and Gary Cole...
SomeDetroitGuy
Her character was only really there to be a foil for Ron Livingston's character.
BaronessVanDerBlam
Yup. She was there for the "how is that not stealing" scene, which is important.
ItsaMeFranman
Home alone 2 staring Donald Trump
AlmostCertainlyNotPickles
I was gonna call that out, too. Ron Livingston played the main character. I guess she was the biggest name closest to the central role.
UrbanShire
Disappointed they didn't credit Michael Bolton...
mrgreen326
I always thought it was Charlie sheen for the longest time until I rewatched it a few years ago
Charliewinz
Winning.
AgainstMethod
I don't know about minor. She had maybe the third most screen time?
jenw
I mean, it's kinda hilarious when you think about it.
ontarioOT
You're just upset Lumberg fucked her.
HarryDresdenIsMySpiritAnimal
LUMBERG fucked her??
turbodog
OH OH OH OH OH OH face
PballQhead
Wear a rubber dude.
OmnesMundiLardum
DrRad
And yet, it was the only decent role she’s ever had.
linkdk59
I don't even remember her at all from that film
AgainstMethod
She was the main love interest.
linkdk59
Oh man. Honestly, I don't even remember a love interest. I should rewatch it maybe
PballQhead
Mm. I'd argue that her being happy in a "menial" server job was quite critical to the plot - Michael ended up happy in his "menial" job.
Burke616
*Was* she happy in her job? Being lectured over wearing the bare minimum pieces of flair?
DaveMeowthewz
But the movie was not about her as much as Peter, Samir, and Michael.
PballQhead
They were the main protagonists, sure, but she was the one who made Peter realize he didn't need his fancy "career" to be happy.
DaveMeowthewz
It's like talking about the dark, dystopian cult classic Fight Club, which starred Meatloaf and nobody else. Robert Paulson was vital to the
DaveMeowthewz
Plot but he's no way the main character
Geistbar
Did you watch the same movie I did? She hated her job too.
PballQhead
Okay, poor choice of words…her acceptance of her shit job, leaving the hatred of it at the door when she left, was a key theme in the film.
astrangehop
She also made a lateral move to a place that wasn't quite as horrible
TheZommie
she showed how much she detested her job by wearing the exact amount of flair that was required, instead of more than the minimum
CriticalCritic
Yeah... but you gotta admit, she had flair!
justareallylongemailaddress
No. Did you not pay attention!?! She did not have the required amount of flair.
BaronessVanDerBlam
No, she had the bare minimum. What do you think of a person who only does the bare minimum?
BaronessVanDerBlam
Oh yeah? Well,
jenw
Remember guys, always wipe your machines before returning them to IT. I recommend Dban.org
turbodog
I recommend an open field, a baseball bat, and a fire.
rhubarbarian
DidItForScience
Just don't keep copies of illegal plans about your employer on your employer's equipment. And obfuscate/encrypt your plans if you write them
IamGelatinSkelly
Both is good
FuzzyX
And your modified code should be self deleting if it does not hear from you within a set time frame like if you get fired.
evilgriff
Ruderali
We have live copies of your machines. We dont give a shit and management are cunts. Just buy us a beer and tell us what not to see.
JamesAHarrod
SomeGrayFox
I'm amazed someone so smart could be so dumb.
BronkLuonk
There was actually probably no way to erase the scripts, depending on their infrastructure. Usually companies have a record of every deploym
BronkLuonk
Ent so that if any problem occurs they can go back to the most recent working version
MWM75
A company with a good security policy won't allow addition of un-authorized apps or external media.
WombatHammer
Alternatively, if you stole $300K from work, just thermite the drives and say you broke the work laptop. Whatever, pay them a couple grand.
thundercactus
Also, keep important data in private cloud accounts so you can wipe the access from work computers remotely.
Ruderali
Just dont do shit on work computers. Until you work in IT you dont realise the access we have. You literally cant hide stuff from us on ther
Ruderali
Just dont do shit on work computers. Until you work in IT you dont realise how access we have, they are OUR property, we treat them as such.
terajack2048
You don’t think that can pierce a cloud with a warrant ?
thundercactus
I don't think they'll find malicious code on it by accident *without* a warrant.
Sooner70
Assuming that accessing private cloud accounts with your work computer isn't already a firing offense (it is around here!).
Chloramphenicol
It's not your machine, it's the company's.
jenw
They can reinstall a fresh build. That was my job. I wiped everything before the fresh build anyway.
Chloramphenicol
Yes, *they* do the rebuild; you don't wipe it for them.
jenw
Agree to disagree
FlatPlutoSociety
I recommend just not returning your machine to IT.
reallynotmikepence
If I stole 300k and had evidence on my laptop I'd just destroy the laptop and tell em to bill me.
WombatHammer
Right? Just fucking thermite it. That shit isn't hard to make. Or am I weird, and just know how to make it?
FlatPlutoSociety
Open an IT ticket that says "Accidentally dropped laptop into open bonfire."
DonnaDeadpool
Wipe it clean then destroy it just to be extra safe.
justadudewholovescats
Nuke it from orbit
MySushi
Dban is okay but has limitations, especially as most workstation laptops use SSDs these days. Could use some open-source alternatives
gtollie
HaHaHaWTFguy
What limitations does Dban have with SSDs?
BlastFX
Which is both a positive and a negative. Short of running the secure erase command (which erases the entire drive), you can't ensure 1/2
BlastFX
data is actually destroyed, however, thanks to TRIM, most data *is* destroyed immediately. (Learned that the hard way.) 2/2
OverwhelmingSurplusOfDiggity
All you need to do is the ssd hardware wipe, which uses the built-in encryption. Alternative choice: don’t steal.
jenw
It's been years since I've used it and my laptop still has a cd rom, so I didn't consider that.
MySushi
I just run a linux live cd which I keep on a usb stick, install wipe after enabling universe repositories, then run it with the needed flags
MySushi
Takes time for full disk, so you gotta plan ahead. Better to keep smaller partitions for system & data, so you can pick what you need wiped