On this day: October 21st, 2003- How the discovery of trans- Nepturian object Eris, lead to the demotion of Pluto as a planet.

Oct 20, 2024 9:19 PM

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On October 21, 2003, the Hubble Telescope captured distant images of a tiny speck of light.
In the distant solar system, the discovery team named the object Xena, after the television warrior princess.
The discovery caused discord within the astronomical community.
Eris was bigger than Pluto, but there was reluctance to declare a tenth planet in the solar system.
Instead, a compromise was made to demote Pluto to a "dwarf planet", along with two others.

Source: https://www.9news.com.au/world/today-in-history-october-21-what-happened-on-this-day-in-pictures/a8260a59-5e0e-4df2-b595-7a55cda76408

Artist depiction of Dwarf planet Pluto (2015).

The discovery of the (dwarf) planet Eris in 2005 lead to the reclassification of smaller trans- Neptunian objects as dwarf planets.

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“Pluto isn’t real. Space dosent exist” - every flat earther ever.

8 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You heard about Pluto? That’s messed up, right?

10 months ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

I still think, hell, as long as they were naming planets after Disney characters, they should've picked Goofy.

10 months ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 3

We don't have a good image of Eris; that's Charon, Pluto's moon. The "artist's depiction" below it is in fact a photo, or a collage of photographs, from the New Horizons probe, albeit enhanced and altered somewhat.

10 months ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 0

Interesting https://www.nasa.gov/solar-system/plutos-big-moon-charon-reveals-a-colorful-and-violent-history/ For reference. IDK enough about art to decide if composite and 'touched up' images are 'artist's depiction' or not. Here's the true color image of Pluto from New Horizons https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ca/Pluto_in_True_Color_-_High-Res.png

10 months ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Gonna be honest, I never really thought Pluto should have been a planet. Take any astronomy textbook from the 90s and find some illustration of the planets and their orbits. I always got the feeling that one of them didn't belong. It definitely looked like an outlier.

10 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

More like re-classification. Not lesser, just different :)

10 months ago | Likes 30 Dislikes 3

A dwarf planet is still a planet :)

10 months ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

So the class of body doesn't include the word 'planet' right?

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Awkward? Indeed…

10 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

10 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It is named after the goddess of discord after all.

10 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Who was also in Xena.

10 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Eris led to the demotion of Pluto? F**k you, Eris.

10 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

"The discovery caused discord" - I see what you did there. Have an upvote.

10 months ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

VIVA LA PLUTO

10 months ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

10 months ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

Good lord the New Horizon's flyby of Pluto was in 2015? Feels like it was just few years ago, not 9.

10 months ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

If you're ever in Flagstaff AZ, visit the Lowell Observatory where Clyde Tombaugh discovered Pluto in 1930. In 2006, the IAU voted (you don't VOTE in science) to declassify Pluto as a planet after the planetary astronomers had left the conference. Pluto is still a planet to me.... :P

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

"Lowell" being Percival Lowell, who figured out there must be another planet out there somewhere, because he could see how its gravity impacted the rest of the solar system. But despite searching for it for like twenty years, he never actually found it; nearly twenty more years passed before Tombaugh was able to find it.

10 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

i read demolition and i was like WHAAAATTTT! haha good time

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Kinda fitting that the goddess of discord and strife caused this

10 months ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 0

Guess why TF they named it that...

10 months ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

So we should get a new arc showing the origin of Sailor Trans-Neptunian Object fairly soon?

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I must find my glasses - I read that as demolition and thought "Fuck - what did I miss?"

10 months ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Shiva got fed up with the controversy at the IAU

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Planet of our hearts🥺

10 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

They *thought* Eris was bigger than Pluto. New Horizons actually revealed Pluto to be slightly larger than the most recent estimates prior. We still don't know exactly how large Eris is, but the general consensus nowadays is fairly certain that it is smaller than Pluto. I personally think Pluto should have been the standard-bearer for the minimum size of a "planet", with everything smaller carrying the dwarf planet classification.

10 months ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

why pluto and not mercury which seems to fit the revised definition.

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Smaller by volume, larger by mass. Eris is believed to be 2% smaller by volume and 27% larger by mass than Pluto. And the entire point of the vote was to avoid arbitrary lines like "anything smaller than X is a dwarf planet" as those cause a mess of problems when new planets whose size straddles the line are found. The new definition isn't perfect, but it's nowhere near as arbitrary as "Pluto's diameter is the magical dividing line".

10 months ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

But I *want* to be arbitrary! :P

10 months ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

What about elf planets?

10 months ago | Likes 35 Dislikes 2

Elf planets are stars, Man planets are moons & we’re on the hobbit one. Any other questions?

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

They're very thirsty, I'm told.

10 months ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

What about side by side with friend planets?

10 months ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Well ok but what about the hobbit planets?

10 months ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

we're on the one, dude

10 months ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

10 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

They crossed the milky way and left our solar system forever. Read your Tolkien!

10 months ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 1

Maybe stop calling it a demotion and call it a reclassification? We learned more about both Pluto AND the rest of the solar system, and reclassified it.

10 months ago | Likes 138 Dislikes 2

10 months ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 7

Pluto is a planet, but some weenies didn't like that because it would mean having to classify a lot of stuff in the outer orbit as planets as well.

10 months ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 10

It would mean literally thousands of objects being planets and that number constantly increasing for decades to come. It's either pluto's not a planet or the rest are major planets, either way pluto loses its status in the group. It's still a subcategory of planetoid, planet just now means something useful for describing solar system structure.

10 months ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

Damn, guess we got a lot of planets in this neighborhood

10 months ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

I guess it's like the premier league. If you can't cut it, you get "reclassified"

10 months ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 7

So Pluto was sold out

10 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Somebody ratted him out, told the universe how small he really was.

10 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

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10 months ago (deleted Oct 21, 2024 11:11 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

That's nonsense. "It was changed on a vote" no, the new proposed definition of planets (which replaced basically nothing, we didn't /have/ a definition of planet before it) was put to a vote. Pluto's status was affected by that vote, but claiming it was a vote about Pluto is pure BS. It was a simple "here's a proposal for a definition for this thing we have no definition for, yay or nay?". That's been a part of science forever. Stop spreading this bs.

10 months ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 1

ty for typing it out so I didn't have to. It annoys me people so damn butthurt about this. Every time u hear people bitch about Pluto's new classification(or rather where it fits into that classification) it is like they were personally attacked and targeted by science itself.

10 months ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

The science is out to get us!!!

8 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

how are scientific classifications normally done?

10 months ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 1

The Emperor of science declares it, obviously. Duh.

10 months ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Oh right, I forgot, I hope my lapse is forgiven. Long live the Emperor!

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Sorting Telescope - we no longer use it for Zodiac houses

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

hehe you all are funny, tho was legitimately asking, cause I thought the standard for things in science like definitions and stuff were decided by consensus or 'vote'.

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

ok, seriously though - IAU didn't decide so much on Pluto as on what's actually a "planet" as opposed to other objects, because so many had been discovered since the 90s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pluto#IAU_classification

10 months ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0