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Passing Stars And The Solar System's Future
Oktay Yürük aka Oktay74tn, science and tech content
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This animation shows the movement of 75000 stars close to the sun around the center of the Milky Way. With 2,000 simulations, astronomers have investigated the influence of field star passages on the stability of the solar system. Over the next 4.5 billion years, field star encounters will be the most likely cause of instability.
This is what the movement of the solar system would look like to an observer in the galactic disk. The small planets Mercury and Mars are the weak points. Field stars increase the instability of Mercury's orbit by 50 to 80 percent.
Passing stars change Pluto from a completely stable object over 5 billion years to one with a 5 percent instability probability.
The star Gliese 710, which is 62 light years away today, will come within 0.17 light years of the Sun in 1.29 million years.
The Influence of Passing Field Stars on the Solar System's Dynamical Future
Nathan A. Kaib, Sean N. Raymond
https://arxiv.org/abs/2505.04737
A Rogue Star Could Hurl Earth Into Deep Space, Study Warns
Passant Rabie
https://gizmodo.com/a-rogue-star-could-hurl-earth-into-deep-space-study-warns-2000608784
Wikipedia articles
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formation_and_evolution_of_the_Solar_System#Future
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gliese_710
drduffer
So my response was, “Wow!”
Then it was, “Well, it’s not next week!”
Oktay74tn
A few numbers: Mass of the Milky Way = 200 billion m(Sun), galactic orbital velocity of the Sun = 255 km/s, galactic orbital period of the Sun = 225 Myrs, escape velocity of the Milky Way = 550 km/s, Wikipedia article about stellar kinematics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_kinematics#High-velocity_stars .
JackieTreehornProductions
I thought the Milky Way and Andromeda galaxy collision was going to be the big end event for everything but appears that may not happen now. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/milky-ways-chance-of-colliding-with-andromeda-galaxy-is-less-than-previously-thought-astronomers-report
Oktay74tn
Yes, there is a 50% chance that Andromeda and the Milky Way will miss each other. The Large Magellanic Cloud LMC makes the diference. This is a very interesting article and material for another video. :)
L1ttl3J1m
And the New Heavy Bombardment period to start about 10,000 years later, I guess.
YuffieK
Sol's gravity would still be over 100,000,000x stronger than Gliese 710's at a closest approach of .16 ly
YuffieK
A new Late Heavy bombardment? Probably, Ejecting Earth into an uninhabitable orbit? Highly unlikely.
RecurringNightmare
two interesting observations from that milky-way animation...apparently there are quite a lot of stars that arent rotating around the galactic centre but rather are kind of falling into it, ie the supermassive black hole there, which is a bit unexpected...and the "cloud" of observed stars that does rotate stretches out quite nicely, which is surprising as physicists had to "invent" dark matter specifically to explain why this actually is not happening, but apparently it actually is happening...
Oktay74tn
All stars orbit the galactic center. The other stars are stopped only in the animation to show the movements of the stars near to the Sun. Over time, the stars close to the sun will move away and other stars will approach the Sun. This is a nice diagram https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Near-stars-past-future-en.svg .
RecurringNightmare
duh, im not talking about the frozen background image, i mean the stars that move directly up while the big cloud moves clockwise...those ones are either on super elliptic orbits, which is wild, or maybe they arent really part of the galaxy and just happened to fly into it and will be ejected again after slingshotting around the galactic centre...
Oktay74tn
This is the full movie https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Orbits_of_the_nearby_stars_around_the_galaxy_ESA445389.webm . The sun has a nearly cicular orbit oscillating up and down the galactic plane https://public.nrao.edu/ask/what-causes-the-suns-periodic-vertical-oscillation-through-the-plane-of-the-galaxy/ .
RecurringNightmare
ah, nice, so some of those stars are actually predicted to become ejected eventually...fascinating...
SmackGawd
Poo poo go down the holeeeee
McTaco
That’s about 50 million years of travel.
Fun fact: our sun, and earth are 20 Galactic years old. We will turn 21 in about 185 million years
evildadunit
that'll be a party. I wonder who's coming
Oktay74tn
70,000 years ago, Scholz's star approached the Oort cloud. The binary of a red and a brown dwarf came as close as 0.82 light-years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scholz's_Star
myotheralt
Humans have not been around the galactic once. Sharks have been twice.
RenaissanceFaireMan
I can't wait.
UnitConversionBot
62 light years ≈ 364000000000000 miles
UnitConversionBot
0.17 light years ≈ 999000000000 miles
LespritDeLescalier22
Shit. I should start looking for a safer neighborhood. Anyone have any thoughts on Ohio?
SumOneElse
All is strange and vague. Are you dead?
cepacolusmaximus
real talk, 1.29 million years is not much time to get ready for another fucking STAR to cruise on through here
CatEyebrows
No
RenaissanceFaireMan
LespritDeLescalier22
Guess I’m moving to Hawaii. To live in a box on the beach
RooGryphon
stay out of the black hole that is called ohio
LespritDeLescalier22
Ohio begins and ends with a hole