sleeperkid
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For the record, this shit was nothing but a random numerical happenstance in a chaotic world where destiny and fate are imaginary concepts. Still cool, tho.
Jun 16, 2025 1:06 AM
sleeperkid
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For the record, this shit was nothing but a random numerical happenstance in a chaotic world where destiny and fate are imaginary concepts. Still cool, tho.
theworldcouldbeflat
@OP are you some kind of aerospace engineer that would have an understanding of physics. Otherwise your commentary counts as misinformation. While 11a did seem coincidental to me, assuming people looked deeper into it as a real possibility of causality is something people do on Twitter. /s
dproz
Price for 11A about to double during seat selection....
Papamotamus
I’ve heard from the ultra religious group that it was five Hail Marys
Lowland
11A prices will double
hotaru251
Can't wait for airlines to sell seat 11A for 1 grand over rest of seats.
SavageDrums
Emergency exit row (at least for the most recent guy)
Thefsm
Not a total coincidence. Certain seats are statistically safer. The back is slightly safer than the front for example
TheStreetForce
Supposedly theres a very strong wing structure in that area that helps protect those seats during crashes.
hwyckoff
Taking notes in case I ever fly. Odds are astronomically against me flying. Still, good to know.
ironymus
The best chance to survive a crash is in the rows above the wings. This is the most reinforced structure in every plane
ThatOtherMacAvoyWoman
I thought he was assigned 11A but got switched to 11F?
PotFox
11A happens to be right next to an exit door on the Air India 787-8 that crashed. Because of different seating layouts, Row 11 on American Airlines 787-8's happens to be 5 rows behind the exit door. On British Airways, it's a whole CABIN behind. You'd have to push your way through the Snooty Fucker seating (officially called "Club World") to get to the fowards exit.
BeerBongJohn
Never understood why people play the Mega Millions or Power Ball but after reading the comments here it all makes sense. The majority of plane crashes have many survivors and those people tend to do better towards the rear of the plane. But because a handful of people sole-survived in a couple plane crashes in seat 11A that's the seat you want to be on instead of the back of the plane for that 1 in a billion chance?
peterchen
Next up: Superstition pricing!
ChewyTheWookie
During World War II, fighter planes would come back from battle with bullet holes. The Allies found the areas that were most commonly hit by enemy fire.
Allies sought to strengthen the parts of the planes with the most bullet holes.
Abraham Wald, pointed out planes did not return when shot where there were FEWER bullet holes on the planes that returned and to reinforce those areas instead.
https://archive.org/details/DTIC_ADA091073/page/n8/mode/1up
myloveforyouislikeatruckberserker
This is a cool fact, but that doesn’t really apply here
ChewyTheWookie
Guess I'll go find a post that has comments about observer bias related to plane crashes then
myloveforyouislikeatruckberserker
Atta boy
SimSimSimsalabim
It would be relevant if both accidents were of the exactly the same model of the plane with exactly the same configuration of seats and under similar conditions. Only then you can argue that the seat number played part, because that place can be located over some reinforced spot or that spot can be somehow shielded.
Rauca
Different aircraft. Mere coincidence.
FukcTedCruz
I can already guarantee this seat will always be the first one selected and the people will try to profit from the tickets... At least for the next few months before everyone just forgets due to a new disaster
arrogantengineer
Exit row seats have fetched a premium for some time now already.
Macetheace50
I want a seat on the Black Box Recorder. That thing always survives.
SweepTheLeg31
ConsummateConundrum
He also wasn't the only survivor. There were 45 people that survived the crash he was in. His seat number is meaningless in this context.
EnjoyingMyself
Also we can't check if he isn't lying through his teeth for clicks.
PwnageHobo
Shhh, pattern-seeking brain go brrrrrrrr
ConsummateConundrum
terajack2048
You know it’s all we got going
WeAllLiveInAUserSubmarine
Yes but nobody has come forward to say that they DIED in 11A
Boatsntoes
Some seats are statistically more survivable. I travel for work and one of my co workers only sits in the back for this reason. Away from fuel Nd statistically the safest.
TheMayorOfTittyCity
Hm, both people sat in 11A and both of their planes crashed. I am avoiding that seat.
yook101
What if they made the entire plane out of the 11a seat
L4dead2
They sound unbreakable
pixelscapes
https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTY1YjkxZmJlZmxwc24wazQ3cm80NTMweXpjZ3JqNmIyZTRkeTR2dDg4MnpxeXVyNCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/146SJ7jy4BFXHy/giphy.mp4
tratratralala
Can't wait for airlines to surcharge 11A for survival bonus.
SpammersAreScum
It's not COMPLETELY random, though. In the current case, it was a window seat in an emergency exit row, which had to have improved his odds. It'd be interesting to learn more about the earlier incident.
yoyo42
It was a pretty desirable seat anyway by the sound of it. For us average to tall people at least. Legroom AND nobody to recline on you, that's perfection.
ConsummateConundrum
There were 45 survivors on the earlier crash, 101 died. He may just as well say "I was in a seat".
MySushi
Came here to say this, but I want to provide a bit more context. The seat was in the tail wing section, which is a structurally more sound part of plane, less likely to get scrunched in. He also had a lot of leg room in front of seat, so his body would not be crushed against seats in front of him, unlike the rest of us packed in like sardines. The tail part also has less fuselage under it, so fireball less damaging. He did stay strapped in until after plane crash, when he promptly bailed tf out
Kehy
I do appreciate that first class is first to die in crashes as well. It brings mild joy
brazzy42
And of course seat 11A is probably NOT in an equally advantageous location in different plane models - or even the same model in different airlines with different seat configurations.
MySushi
Ooh, boy. Yeah, plenty of numerology nuts out there, way over-simplifying the world and cramming complex situations into the only models they can comprehend
VictusVonGuyver
That reminds me, ever heard of Vesna Vulović? She survived her plain exploding mid flight and falling apart. It fell 10,160 meters (33.33k feet drop), and she survived.
She was in the fuselage, trapped by a food trolley from the explosion, knocked out. The fuselage landed in just the right way over snow that she had a chance of survival. Being pinned and knocked out helped her survive the impact.
People's chances of surviving airborne passenger plane crashes aren't great, but not 0%.
MySushi
When the plane is ready to take off, the dangers of a full tank exploding increase chances of death of all passengers exponentially. That is part of the reason there was only one survivor in the air india flight. Decompression and other accidents mid-flight become marginally less risky when much of the fuel has been used up, so I guess that could have contributed to her surviving this other disaster
OneUniverse
I have survived every plane I've been on. But car crashes, I've had a few.
dbox
Your post seems to imply you've not survived a few of your car crashes?
Osgarth
OneUniverse
Boo
dbox
Spoopy at the very least.
PileOfWalthers
Probably a different plane tho.
ChewyTheWookie
Q: How often do these planes crash?!
A: once
Californiajackson
Definitely a different plane. They don't usuelly "buff that right out" and put the plane back in the air.
Bethiepoo
Boeing: "hold my beer"
LogicalLimes
I dunno. I feel like they’d definitely try it though… cuz… capitalism.
PectorialMuscles
Way more expensive to pick it all up and repair. You've presumably cleaned children's toys up. Like that, but everything is coated in soot and body parts across a couple square miles. I'm in a macabre mood today.
glovelyday
I once sat in seat 11A and I survived too! The plane didn't crash or anything, but still, I survived...
alexstamat
We cracked immortality just label a chair 11A and never get off it.
drunkbs
Did you though?
eetsumkaus
My condolences
JackieTreehornProductions
https://statisticsbyjim.com/basics/survivorship-bias/
vmos
I sat in IIA once, but it turns out that it was an ancient roman plane and I died
CeterumCenseo
Did you land in the US during the civil war?
idontreadyourreplies
my local bus route is 11A, i rarely get the bus cos it doesnt go past my work
L4t3xs
Thanks for sharing
Magnar1183
Damn...
Omnimorph2112
I remember an imgur user who sat in 11A and unfortunately died... Their name was glovelyday... Sometimes I even feel I can still hear their comments. RIP
Humputse
You hear dead comments? You've got the 7th sense.
IntelligentLake
I remember that accident. It was so fast, they probably never even noticed it happened. I bet they're still doing stuff like they're alive.
myloveforyouislikeatruckberserker
I sat in 11A once, but sadly I didn’t make it.
Mugendramon
Did you get better?
SirWhiskersThe3rd
Dead inside.
ElbowDeepInAJedi
Don't Open
myloveforyouislikeatruckberserker
Nope, it was a terminal death ☹️
drduffer
Once is happenstance. Twice is a statistical anomaly.
A third time will lead to airlines selling lottery tickets to seat 11A on every flight.
Lakalaba
I thought a third time is enemy action. But it doesn't work in the scenario. Unless......
MiamiBentz
There were several survivors in the previous accident, not just the dude sitting in 11A.
TheBlueMuppet
It's where the wing spar is on the 787, so it's one of the strongest parts of the aircraft. Statistics are still against you in a crash, but the odds are better. Src: Captain Steeeve on YouTube.
reichstein
Statistically, almost every person who has ever sat in seat 11A survived the flight. It's extremely unlikely for the person in 11A to die.
Gestalt7
pixelscapes
RetrogradeLlama
They've already hiked the "preferred seat" fee for 11A.
drduffer
A predictable late stage capitalism move. I am not the least bit surprised.
Next they’ll be selling shifts for sitting there for 15 minutes of the flight and marketing the experience to the parents of children with cancer.
TresusIbor
This is a joke right?
OnePostCloserToAHappierLIfe
In the worst way.
RetrogradeLlama
Yes, although they do already charge more for seat 11A when it's an exit row like this one was. It's considered much preferred due to the legroom. At the top of the pricing charts. If demand goes up for it, which I expect it will now, they WILL charge more. That's how their algorithms work.
Richter12x2
Except for American Airlines. They'll not only hike the price, but figure out how to fit 3 seats in the space where 11A used to be.
FenrirsDaughter
See, the bit about extra leg room makes me wonder. Perhaps the survivor was less impacted by debris due to being further from the seat in front of him? Perhaps if the planes stayed the same length and packed in fewer rows of seats, there would be a greater number of survivors in event of a crash.
lurkertron5000
It's how they work. Yes the algorithms are designed to increase prices for the things people want, but humans designed the algorithms, monitor the algorithms and can tweak the algorithms at any time. It's convenient to be able to foist ones morally questionable decisions on an algorithm, or a subordinate, or a superior, or a group decision, but in reality it's always humans fucking humans
lurkertron5000
*I should have in included; a superstitious plane seat is far from the worst example of this. I really mean health-industry, pollution, human rights decisions by corporate workers