The Prometheus Class - Three Attack Ships in One

Apr 10, 2021 2:45 PM

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As outstanding as the Defiant Class proved to be, its design was something of a "rush job", from an engineering perspective. While quite effective in battle, it had some flaws (https://imgur.com/gallery/gCy4y6B)

When the Defiant was in development, Starfleet took a step back to design a fighter more carefully, more deliberately. The result was the Prometheus.

FP Edit: if any of you are skilled at making Intergalactic quality Trek GIFs, let's be friends.

Its first appearance was in the Voyager episode 4x14 "Message in a Bottle". Voyager's Emergency Medical Hologram gets sent across the galaxy through an alien communications array to make contact with the only Federation ship in range - the Prometheus.

When the Doctor arrives, he finds the ship has been taken over by Romulans and his only source of help is his counterpart - the Prometheus EMH. To his surprise, the personality of the EMH Mark II has been "upgraded" to Andy Dick.

The Prometheus was a Long-Range Tactical Escort Vessel - a brand new experimental prototype with features rarely/never seen on a Starfleet vessel - such as FOUR (six? see below) nacelles, regenerative shielding, ablative hull armor, and a special feature called Multi-Vector Attack Mode

In an extension to the old "separate the saucer section" trick, a Prometheus Class ship is THREE ships, each with AI-assisted navigation and combat capabilities, each with independent warp capability.

The "alpha section" on top has at least one retractable nacelle at the peak, behind the bridge, and what appears to be a second underneath - bringing the total, when fully deployed, to 6.

UPDATE: Six nacelles confirmed by the ship designer: http://fsd.trekships.org/art/prometheus.html

Oh, it's also faster than any other ship in the Federation.

All this combined made each one into one of the most powerful ships in the known galaxy.

This, of course, is why the Romulans wanted it so much.

The prototype project was such a secret that only four people in all of Starfleet were trained to operate it, according to Wacky Dr. Andy.

As always with Starfleet computer security, that didn't stop the Romulan crew from running it perfectly the moment they were on board. (This took place shortly before the Romulans joined in the Dominion War).

Aside from "Message in a Bottle", the only other appearance the Prometheus class made in Voyager was in the finale, "Endgame".

As of the end of Voyager, the Prometheus Class was nearly unrivaled in the galaxy in terms of speed, flexibility, attack and defense. Even the Borg might think twice about facing a Prometheus.

If you'd be interested in similar posts about any particular ship or ship type, feel free to comment.

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Such a goofy gimmicky design. There's a reason it wasn't featured as a regular ship.

4 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

Love these posts! You should do the Enterprise J at some point, although pretty sure it was in one episode and it was only the schematic

4 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

If you -really- want to see the exterior and somesuch they tried to create what it looked like on Star Trek Online.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Oh yeah, I have it shes my flagship

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You can see the controversial Alpha Section Ventral Nacelle peaking out from underneath with 3 seconds to go in the first gif

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I had seen a flash of red but none of the details I could find specified for certain. Sure looks that way though.

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4 years ago | Likes 35 Dislikes 0

One of these reasons I’ve come to love Janeway so much is I can totally see her saying things like this.

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4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I am annexing this gifs for the glory of the Cardassian Union!

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

4 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

She must be a CEO of a major game publisher.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Truth be told, @OP a Prometheus class made a brief appearance in Star Trek: Enterprise when Archer and Daniels are on the Enterprise J. 1/2

4 years ago | Likes 35 Dislikes 0

Yup, I carefully said last appearance in Voyager, as I felt the post was getting long and there are a few other small appearances too

4 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 0

Fair, but still... :\

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

Not enough Andy Dick hate in here. Just a cool reminder Jon Lovitz smashed his face into a bar.

4 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

I'm not familiar. Is there a particular reason for the hate? From people in general or Lovitz specifically?

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Too much too list, but a shit ton of sexual harassment and drug issues. Look up Phil Hartmans death for the Lovitz beef.

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

4 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Good post. But it's funny that the Defiant was "rushed" when this ship looks like someone's deviantart OC.

4 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 1

considering it has to be 3 ships that fit together I would expect it to look a bit awkward

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

What if we took three Defiant's, and just stacked them on top of each other? That's much more "deliberate".

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

To be fair DS9 was specifically designed so that kids would be able to draw it.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Great episode of voyager tbh

4 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 1

Absolutely! Played to Bob's strengths as an actor for sure. ♥

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Lots of Robert Picardo/the Doctor was great. Casting Andy Dick ruined it.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

I think it was Dick's second best work, after co-starring with Jon Lovitz as a punching bag.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I hated the Prometheus class. It would make more sense to have a battle group of defiant, Akira and steamrunner class

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Sadly in Star Trek online, this ship doesn’t function this way:(

4 years ago | Likes 29 Dislikes 2

the tier 6 one that you have to pay for does

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's too squishy anyway.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It doesn't? Last time I played, I had it and it did.

4 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

It does, but you need the console that is found on the paid T5 version. Which can be used on any of the variants.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The free one doesn't. You have to pay actual money for Zen to get the advanced one that comes with the multi-vector assault console.

4 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

On xbox, I can never get the ship to come back together.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Or grind your heart out with dilithium to earn zen for it. But that's just ew.

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

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4 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 1

ARM THE PHOTONIC CANNON.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

More trek facts please!

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

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4 years ago (deleted Oct 21, 2024 11:41 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

I do like! Thanks!

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Badass, keep this posts coming!

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

These* haha damnit.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This! Thanks for the info and gifs, @OP! Love me some good ol' Trek infoposts! ♥

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

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4 years ago (deleted Oct 21, 2024 11:41 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Again, so much detail in your posts. :O Thank you very much for your efforts and for sharing it with us! ♥️♥️

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What is this? Power Rangers in Space!?

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Best thing Andy Dick ever did.

4 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 2

Yeah, but the worst thing he did caused Phil Hartman's death, so fuck him.

4 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

You should watch News Radio.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I enjoyed that show but hard to watch now knowing who he is and was

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

so far, he'll die someday.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

D'deridex please

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

added to list. You're second to ask!

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

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4 years ago (deleted Oct 21, 2024 11:40 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Thank you! And thank you for the heads up too

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

what an attractive yet entirely impractical ship. instead of dividing your shields and such, just give it more weapons or a fighter bay :V

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I love that ship.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I don’t remember anything from that episode but Andy Dick.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

I can buy most versatile or efficient, but flat out most powerful? A Sovereign or a Galaxy would still outclass it by a lot.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Three warp cores

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Good for warping, not much else.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Not defending the design, seems a bit silly to me personally, but I used powerful because it's it's three power cores.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

3 warp cores, 3 navigational deflectors?

4 years ago | Likes 103 Dislikes 1

but still only 1 toilet? :-P

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Maybe they have a hundred holo-pottys scattered about. Just beam it all to one central recycling center.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yeah, since the old saucer sections couldn't do warp on their own, they just tripled everything.

4 years ago | Likes 65 Dislikes 1

They all do have nacelles if you watch #1 you'll see a tiny nacelle pop out the top of the top section.

4 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

There might even be a sixth one. Watch closely at the bottom when they split. There is a "red glow" on bottom for a split second.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That would make even more sense because than you have this symetry thing going on again with the nacelles.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

We'll be covering that in the "Gene's rules of starship design" post!

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Thank you. I have watched this episode multiple times and I've NEVER noticed that, I love learning things like this, Thank you! ♥

4 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

I found it out by watching a YouTube channel called Spacedock they have really in-depth video on ships like this.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Have the link? I love shit like that.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

i don't believe it was ever suggested this to be the case (and from the engineering standpoint, it is just absurd nonsense)

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

I'm no Geordi, just relaying the specs online. According to them, each section is independently warp capable.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

nothing like that was said in the only episode where the ship has appeared and i am not aware of any other official source that could (1/x)

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

be considered canon. there is some fanfic out there, but you can't take that madeout stuff as serious info about this madeout ship :D (2/2)

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

I included it as GIF #1 shows each section with at least one nacelle of its own, apparently moving at warp speed and that's from the episode

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

that scene is little problematic, the "line spread stars" in that scene indicate they are in warp, nothing else does. that nebula (1/x)

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

It is probably better just to have three smaller ships fly in a permanent flotilla. Cheaper and safer.

4 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 0

If they can physically connect, though, you can save on fuel or in an emergency take turns running the warpcores are overheat speeds.

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

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4 years ago (deleted Apr 16, 2021 10:42 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

And if you have a way of running all three in unison and have them compliment or add on... zoom zoom.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

If you've never faced a prometheus class, you probably won't expect to suddenly be fighting three ships in perfectly synchronized formation.

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

But that element of surprise is really... not going to last very long against most threats. It'll win you one engagement. That's not much »

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

for the cost of engineering, building, and maintaining this monstrosity. From then on, the ship will be recognized.

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Unless you jam communications and obliterate whatever you attack.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You're not wrong about that, but that surprise can really come in clutch if saved for the right moment.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

So are warp nacelles not needed to have a warp drive?

4 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

Nacelles aren't prominant on the Defiant class.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

That bugged me too that one of them has no visible nacelles. I'll see what I can dig up.

4 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

Haven't found 100% confirmation but it seems those small pieces on the outer edges are the nacelles for the "alpha section"

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Alpha section has two nacelles (One top and bottom.) You can see the upper being deployed on you first Gif.

4 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Yuuup yup! I was looking at the sides. Interestingly that also breaks another of Gene's ship design rules.

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

You can just get a tiny glimpse of the lower nacelle at like 4 seconds in on that Gif. So 6 nacelles total.

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

The only issue with the ship in being 3 ships is all 3 then need nacells, life support, reactors- all the systems to make them independent

4 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

ships, leaving little room and resource for the exploration/humanitarian mission most federation ships have.

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Not really, though. There's been a few videos and such where they assess how much space there is on the ships and they're fucking MASSIVE

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

In terms of sheer floor size per person

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

There were others designed along side it for missions like those (I'll do posts as long as people enjoy them)

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Oh I like the post and thanks for sharing, here !

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

oh I meant about the other sister ships, but thanks

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

An ongoing plotpoint explored in DS9 is the militarization of the Federation and the Dictatorship that was forming out of necessity for

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

survival, along with all the stuff about section 31 and the "ends no matter how severe justifying the means" and sisko accepting the

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

fact that he had to be apart of the assassination of a Romulan diplomat in order to push the Romulans into the war on their side.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

"Oh, and all put together, it was faster than any other ship in the Federation." According to physics it doesn't make a difference

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The alpha section has only a small "mini nacelle" not built to the same specs as the other two

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I wasn't suggesting that three warp cores makes it more powerful, but that the ship was designed to be fast, and also split apart

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

More info on Star Trek ships plz. More Star Trek ship gifs plz. Frankly, I’ll just take more Star Trek ships. Can you tell I like the ships?

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

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4 years ago (deleted Oct 21, 2024 11:41 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Can I just give you all of the upvotes for remembering to update me on this (though I did already upvote the Galaxy class no worries)

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

If you need a suggestion let’s start with the obvious beauty: the Galaxy class

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

You bring the shiny shiny upvotes, I bring the ships

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Fun episode. Silly concept. Just build three ships.

4 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Consider: it is three ships. But with a "combo" mode that lets them travel far faster through warp by combining bubbles.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The warp mechanics don't require the ships to be physically interlocked to do that, and the locking mechanisms wouldn't be trivial.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

more surface area for phasers, without needing to build 3 separate sets of crew amenities

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

What a ridiculous ship design. It would be awesome in literally any other franchise.

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Well, maybe they could do a trade with the Mimbari for a White Star. Win-win.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It's up there in dumb Star Trek ship designs. Discovery is not far off with all the useless rotating parts.

4 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 2

Looks like someone exec let their 12 year old son design a ship.

4 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 3

Seems like a squadron of three ships would do just as good a job

4 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 1

While lacking the tactical element of surprise for lesser informed enemies!

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Maybe for one encounter. But this was developed for the Dominion war and the Romulans found out about it immediately.

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Yeah I always thought the Prometheus was pretty fucking stupid.

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

It does break some (not all) of Gene's ship rules (post forthcoming)

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What does data look like when he's hyped? Because that may be what I look like reading this comment.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

A lot of the post-Roddenberry developers aren’t familiar with the nautical “Age of Discovery” that inspired the franchise and it shows.

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Sort of like how KK’s Star Wars has forgotten it’s supposed to be “WWII in space”.Franchise heads don’t know what made them work to begin w/

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Yes

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I think they were really Andrew Probert’s rules.

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Whole post coming on Sharship Dos and Don'ts from the Trek team

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

As far as I see off the top it's just the saucer section. Even nacelles, can be seen from front view, symmetrical.

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Oh good, I’d love to see that post!!

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Same here!

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Me too

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I would like to subscribe to this newsletter

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You are a superstar!

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The Defiant (while I like it) kinda irritated me. I thought they were only supposed to be science ships w/ defensive weapons.

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Countries that call themselves “Liberal Democratic People’s Republic of...” are often anything but. Rhetoric doesn’t always match reality

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You mean the Starfleet Whitestar?

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Lol About to have my 6th rewatch of that.

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4 years ago (deleted Apr 12, 2021 5:52 AM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

I'm not complaining

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And saved ds9 from becoming to stale. Dd9s overall story telling greatly improved with the defiant, the dominion and Worf joining them

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

why would you say something so controversial yet so brave

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Until the Borg posed a significant threat to the survival of the federation. The federation has never dealt with a threat like that before >

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< so they had to rethink their strategy. The threat diminished over time (or so they thought) and the project, together with the sabre >

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< class and others were mothballed. Then the dominion came along and the defiant was pulled to defend DS9 against any threat. Once the war >

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That's covered in the Defiant post linked at the top. They broke the rule first for the borg, then for the dominion.

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Oh hey you should do one on Voyagers ablative armor.

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added to the list, thanks

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Ah thx! I got distracted by CGI nostalgia.

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