May 16, 2021 1:51 PM
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https://youtu.be/Way5bMh-eYg
the_more_you_know
MagooFlashback80s
v
kn1fe79
fromtheabyss
Have you considered smacking it with a hammer was causing the problem?
Wulph421
Me
tgeliot
I wish I had seen this before I tiled my patio. Fortunately they're porcelain tiles and seem to be indestructible.
WhatUpDog3000
I prefer the hammer method.
JohnSnot
I was really confused at first when I just read the title and he started just hammering the tile to pieces
danshouldbeworkingnow
1200 sq. ft, all done by the inferior "spot bonding" method. 1/3 of tiles are broken. Beware of Kai Lindberg, formerly of Edmonton AB.
dudekazoo
The shots of him smashing the tile look like something from Tim and Eric.
sickburn
100% there is an insane smile underneath a thousand yard stare just above the frame
SmokyDoggg
no no no you got a hit it with little hammers and gradually go up to bigger hammers so it builds up a resistance to hammer bangs
Stackalee
I had these problems, but then I stopped hitting my tiles with a hammer.
StephenDaniels
First things first is getting a flat surface to tile on. Large format tiles need 1/8th in 10 feet. Its a rare basement that's that flat.
Ireadhentaifortheart
I lay tile. I was scared I was doing it wrong for a sec there oof insecurity
badpuppeh81
Could I just not beat my tile floors with a hammer or nah?
xETM
NO! The whole point of the video is that you must hammer your tiles to create a strong bond.... I think. TL;DR (W)
SoupCanMan
Well, if you drop something, or step real hard, I think that is the point.
Nolurkeranymore
Wow. That was cool and good to know.
alwaysmoorelaw
Backbutter larger tiles.
3nd3rwiggin
TIL!!!
loydoy
thank you.
passbi
I was looking up how to install bathroom tiles and the guy was mentioning thos and i couldnt understand any of it until this momoment lol
donbarnado
Smashing.
kellerstern
Consider someone will have to remove them once
Dhood86
As someone who was just ripping up the previous home owners tile. I wish they used the wrong method.
rollerskateorgies
Tore up an entire floor of tile when we moved in my current place. Plywood sublayer with deck screws every 5 inches and construction adhesiv
djangojazz
Wish I knew this before I laid my bathroom tile. Seriously I had to replace it once already because I did the right substrate but swirled.
supraman2turbo
Oofff what size tile?
It wasn't that bad it was only a 80 to 100 sq ft bathroom with 12' tile. Only the tile near the tub was needed to be replaced due to wear.
idieeverytime
There’s an ANSI standard for tile grouting? Crazy
Hueroc
There's ANSI standards for *anything* construction-related
stretchalezander
What about the last tile you put in?
DenitoOoO
Doomed
LeSethX
well just don't hit that one
yellowtoothed
Put it where it’s not stepped on (under the tub, behind the door...)
clicksordicksidontknowanymore
It'll be in the corner and weep.
eldorel
That's what the 'grout' lines are for...
Iamhereforyourviewingpleasure
Use a tile vibrator.
StorytellingSalem
The trick is putting that one in first
OrionRed
I love imgur... the smartass response gets more upvotes than the legit question!
<3
Acronymicon
Keep the guy with the hammer away from that one
thew33k3nd
Last one will still have just enough room to move back and forth due to the spacing you should be making for grout lines.
Tiles should never be directly touching each other.
BigDaddysMeatWagon
Huh that makes sense
volock
Minimal grout offset like popular with fake wood floor thin tile, definitely would apply to his statement and your reply
stehenallein
ya what a fucking amateur!! (sarcasm)
crazywowow
madguy50
That's grout to know.
Meyek
Make sure it's a corner tile that nobody will walk on.
LucianoIntorno
Good point. Counter point. Don't hit your floor with a hammer and you will not have problems no matter how crappy the install was.
Seethreepeeoh
Wiggle it. Just a little bit. I wanna see you wiggle it.
Asdfjlk
crimpitdown9001
BixbyConsequence
fskn
doozydozen
somethingawesomeandgreat
lostknight0727
Good ol' 90s animators working out their suppressed sexual preferences.
victalany
Wow we are old.
CallsignFatNinja
As it grooves!
CodyMcBean
Acid grooves?
I wanna see you wiggle it just a little bit as it groovesOnce the DJ lets it spin, it'll penetrate your skin
MAXRR
That's what I always thought yeah.
boblives
The beginning of the song kinda sounds like the opening theme of an anime that would be about butts or something
adrianontherocks
allergicavocado
modicumjones
UnicornCock
Xilir8
TheHuntedSnark
I've always wondered.
littlebear64
No matter how hard I tried, I would so Fuck that up.
Klaxun
PaladinAstro
I love her excitement at a gift well chosen
FNHuskys
Well shit...
BrotherOwl
Mmmmm yeah
PrfctDrk
Wait is that green fire under there?? Could someone turn this into an upvote gif?
Hexspresso
Considering it's supposed to be yellow paint and normal fire... It's already an upvote gif, friend.
Oh fuck, I didn't even watch past the part where I saw the fire I was so excited. Dangit
okay, i gotta ask, whats the fucking point of having lines? why not just lay down a smooth layer to begin with? it couldnt be that hard to
make a trowel with curved edges only to meter even layer
Corrodias
This was my thought as well. If the goal is to flatten out the adhesive... why not just make it flat to begin with?
IAmGodot
Video explains it: It gives air a path to escape. It's air pockets that create weak spots.
The bed won't be perfectly flat. Let's say the tile has 80 percent contact. It will be difficult to push in such a way to remove the
remaining "bubble". The rows allow the mortar to flow to where it's needed to eliminate any large voids.
Micro2112
How's that compare to back buttering?
onecowboytoo
I buttered your mom's backside last night.
JustJoshinya9001
We back buttered tiles at the place I worked at, it kind of accomplishes the same goal. More tile to mud to floor contact. Wiggle helps too!
xyxyxyxy31
DarthMaulOfAmerica
Well you won't get pregnant, at least
InsolventTacos
JackSmiles2
I too chose this persons butter wife
charliegrs
That thing you said made me laugh because I am immature
Strangedays2024
Personally I've always preferred doing it like this than I did with back butter, but you can have success with both.
TheNewYellowZealot
Back buttering is still recommended for extremely large tiles, anything larger than 12x24 really.
However the single direction mortar lines are extremely necessary.
thisismyyousirname
I only back butter large format tile (12" and up)
xuriV
Well butter my back and call me a biscuit.
thesavagery
I did both for my 2' x 1' tiles.
Dashingdane
You do backbuttering on larger tiles to insure it adheres fully, but you gotta do it right.
iCommunicateInGifs
googlesALot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Way5bMh-eYg&ab_channel=CustomBuildingProd same video recommends back buttering
shawnemack
Tom Silva always back butters so I do too
jonklein611
Right herrrree
*Heeaahh
GlitchKs
Mike Holmes too
tr26
Tom Silva is a living god among us
mav81
Truth.
He’s my spirit animal
Rips4w
Sir, this is a family website.
MrLurkMcGurk
Well done friend, made me laugh
dekket
It so isn't though.
There's a pretty good chance I wasnt being serious.
MrDrButthurt
Holy shit you killed me with that one
DonteHaversham
It didnt use to be
ItsJustACoincidence
Have you tried Reddit?
Imgur was born of reddit
BitofaBstard
WHEREISMYTROPHY
It is now.... I miss the old days
76000BatteryLlamas
No sir, this is an Arbys
saganation
It's just a banana ma'am
scarredhotdog
ThatsOneCozyBoi
Gentlemen, this is the end.
UnitConversionBotButTerrible
HansWestergaard
*insert the gif here*
IThoughtIdComeUpWithABetterUserNameThanThis
TellusEidolon
It isnt an A to A comparison. The video links is the correct way to install tile. Back buttering help increase mortar coverage
sebT4
Back butter is better because most of the time you dont have space to wiggle the tile.
CubwardOHulihan
That wiggle is stupid, as is back buttering. It's all about making a good surface to start on. Level surface, consistent adhesive thickness.
You only need a small wiggle, and you don't tile right up to a solid object; there should be a gap.
feliscorvus
Can’t beat a bit of better back butter.
Shadrack7
The full video actually addresses that topic
absurdative
No that’s not back buttering, only spitting.
wipethatfaceoffyourheadbitch
Not really. They just did a couple of little dots. Gotta slather that baby up like an albino at the equator.
Justzissguy
No they used the dots as an example of what not to do. They later addressed back buttering larger tiles and showed how to do it.
Ah gotcha, I only half read the first comment and realized later that there was a link to the full youtube video.
Video literally says "Backbuttering is recommended for most tile"
Yeah, I didn’t notice there was a link. My bad.
DontAskMeAboutMyUsernameOkay
I'm not disagreeing with their method or their logic, it just seems that they put more effort into "collapsing" the straight lines...
FuddyHuddy
It let's the air escape. I back butter too. Which is flat troweling thinset on the tile. Wet to wet is best.
IAmTheBasicModel
yeah the way the hammer just casually glances off on the straight lines vs the others he follows through and hammer doesnt really bounce
FinscothDennehy
He probably does hit the ones that break harder, but it's expected that the hammer doesn't bounce when the tiles give and break.
joonyoungie
Seems like he put more hammer effort on the first tile too.
joot
You just reminded me of how they standardize head injuries in rat models of TBI. It looks like a catapult.
Putitinyomama
I've got a feeling if they used the same placement technique on the straight lines as they did on the swirl lines, it'd break...
Cronos51101
The difference is that with straight lines, there's a path for the trapped air to escape.
See I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm just saying that the video does a poor demonstration because they use different placement techniques.
M1ssPlace
They're doing it to demonstrate why the other techniques create issues.
AuthGaeuvyen
and they hit them differently too. On the ones he broke he hits along the edge first, but the one that didn't break h hits towards center
tryin2figureitout
By using straight lines perpendicular side to side movement collapses them, but swirls cant be completely collapsed with that motion.
Watch the whole video. They show several attempts.
palmo
? Do you mean parallel?
pgdave
No - motion perpendicular to the lines - moving the tile back and forth.
MagooFlashback80s
kn1fe79
fromtheabyss
Have you considered smacking it with a hammer was causing the problem?
Wulph421
Me
tgeliot
I wish I had seen this before I tiled my patio. Fortunately they're porcelain tiles and seem to be indestructible.
WhatUpDog3000
I prefer the hammer method.
JohnSnot
I was really confused at first when I just read the title and he started just hammering the tile to pieces
danshouldbeworkingnow
1200 sq. ft, all done by the inferior "spot bonding" method. 1/3 of tiles are broken. Beware of Kai Lindberg, formerly of Edmonton AB.
dudekazoo
The shots of him smashing the tile look like something from Tim and Eric.
sickburn
100% there is an insane smile underneath a thousand yard stare just above the frame
SmokyDoggg
no no no you got a hit it with little hammers and gradually go up to bigger hammers so it builds up a resistance to hammer bangs
Stackalee
I had these problems, but then I stopped hitting my tiles with a hammer.
StephenDaniels
First things first is getting a flat surface to tile on. Large format tiles need 1/8th in 10 feet. Its a rare basement that's that flat.
Ireadhentaifortheart
I lay tile. I was scared I was doing it wrong for a sec there oof insecurity
badpuppeh81
Could I just not beat my tile floors with a hammer or nah?
xETM
NO! The whole point of the video is that you must hammer your tiles to create a strong bond.... I think. TL;DR (W)
SoupCanMan
Well, if you drop something, or step real hard, I think that is the point.
Nolurkeranymore
Wow. That was cool and good to know.
alwaysmoorelaw
Backbutter larger tiles.
3nd3rwiggin
TIL!!!
loydoy
thank you.
passbi
I was looking up how to install bathroom tiles and the guy was mentioning thos and i couldnt understand any of it until this momoment lol
donbarnado
Smashing.
kellerstern
Consider someone will have to remove them once
Dhood86
As someone who was just ripping up the previous home owners tile. I wish they used the wrong method.
rollerskateorgies
Tore up an entire floor of tile when we moved in my current place. Plywood sublayer with deck screws every 5 inches and construction adhesiv
djangojazz
Wish I knew this before I laid my bathroom tile. Seriously I had to replace it once already because I did the right substrate but swirled.
supraman2turbo
Oofff what size tile?
djangojazz
It wasn't that bad it was only a 80 to 100 sq ft bathroom with 12' tile. Only the tile near the tub was needed to be replaced due to wear.
idieeverytime
There’s an ANSI standard for tile grouting? Crazy
Hueroc
There's ANSI standards for *anything* construction-related
stretchalezander
What about the last tile you put in?
DenitoOoO
Doomed
LeSethX
well just don't hit that one
yellowtoothed
Put it where it’s not stepped on (under the tub, behind the door...)
clicksordicksidontknowanymore
It'll be in the corner and weep.
eldorel
That's what the 'grout' lines are for...
Iamhereforyourviewingpleasure
Use a tile vibrator.
StorytellingSalem
The trick is putting that one in first
OrionRed
I love imgur... the smartass response gets more upvotes than the legit question!
StorytellingSalem
<3
Acronymicon
Keep the guy with the hammer away from that one
thew33k3nd
Last one will still have just enough room to move back and forth due to the spacing you should be making for grout lines.
thew33k3nd
Tiles should never be directly touching each other.
BigDaddysMeatWagon
Huh that makes sense
volock
Minimal grout offset like popular with fake wood floor thin tile, definitely would apply to his statement and your reply
stehenallein
ya what a fucking amateur!! (sarcasm)
crazywowow
madguy50
That's grout to know.
Meyek
Make sure it's a corner tile that nobody will walk on.
LucianoIntorno
Good point. Counter point. Don't hit your floor with a hammer and you will not have problems no matter how crappy the install was.
Seethreepeeoh
Wiggle it. Just a little bit. I wanna see you wiggle it.
Asdfjlk
crimpitdown9001
BixbyConsequence
fskn
doozydozen
somethingawesomeandgreat
lostknight0727
Good ol' 90s animators working out their suppressed sexual preferences.
victalany
Wow we are old.
CallsignFatNinja
As it grooves!
CodyMcBean
Acid grooves?
CallsignFatNinja
I wanna see you wiggle it just a little bit as it grooves
Once the DJ lets it spin, it'll penetrate your skin
MAXRR
That's what I always thought yeah.
boblives
The beginning of the song kinda sounds like the opening theme of an anime that would be about butts or something
adrianontherocks
allergicavocado
modicumjones
Asdfjlk
BixbyConsequence
UnicornCock
Xilir8
TheHuntedSnark
I've always wondered.
littlebear64
No matter how hard I tried, I would so Fuck that up.
Klaxun
PaladinAstro
I love her excitement at a gift well chosen
FNHuskys
Well shit...
BrotherOwl
Mmmmm yeah
PrfctDrk
Wait is that green fire under there?? Could someone turn this into an upvote gif?
Hexspresso
Considering it's supposed to be yellow paint and normal fire... It's already an upvote gif, friend.
PrfctDrk
Oh fuck, I didn't even watch past the part where I saw the fire I was so excited. Dangit
stehenallein
okay, i gotta ask, whats the fucking point of having lines? why not just lay down a smooth layer to begin with? it couldnt be that hard to
stehenallein
make a trowel with curved edges only to meter even layer
Corrodias
This was my thought as well. If the goal is to flatten out the adhesive... why not just make it flat to begin with?
IAmGodot
Video explains it: It gives air a path to escape. It's air pockets that create weak spots.
BixbyConsequence
The bed won't be perfectly flat. Let's say the tile has 80 percent contact. It will be difficult to push in such a way to remove the
BixbyConsequence
remaining "bubble". The rows allow the mortar to flow to where it's needed to eliminate any large voids.
Micro2112
How's that compare to back buttering?
onecowboytoo
I buttered your mom's backside last night.
JustJoshinya9001
We back buttered tiles at the place I worked at, it kind of accomplishes the same goal. More tile to mud to floor contact. Wiggle helps too!
xyxyxyxy31
DarthMaulOfAmerica
Well you won't get pregnant, at least
InsolventTacos
JackSmiles2
I too chose this persons butter wife
charliegrs
That thing you said made me laugh because I am immature
Strangedays2024
Personally I've always preferred doing it like this than I did with back butter, but you can have success with both.
TheNewYellowZealot
Back buttering is still recommended for extremely large tiles, anything larger than 12x24 really.
TheNewYellowZealot
However the single direction mortar lines are extremely necessary.
thisismyyousirname
I only back butter large format tile (12" and up)
xuriV
Well butter my back and call me a biscuit.
thesavagery
I did both for my 2' x 1' tiles.
Dashingdane
You do backbuttering on larger tiles to insure it adheres fully, but you gotta do it right.
iCommunicateInGifs
googlesALot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Way5bMh-eYg&ab_channel=CustomBuildingProd same video recommends back buttering
shawnemack
Tom Silva always back butters so I do too
jonklein611
Right herrrree
Acronymicon
*Heeaahh
GlitchKs
Mike Holmes too
tr26
Tom Silva is a living god among us
mav81
Truth.
shawnemack
He’s my spirit animal
Rips4w
Sir, this is a family website.
MrLurkMcGurk
Well done friend, made me laugh
dekket
It so isn't though.
Rips4w
There's a pretty good chance I wasnt being serious.
MrDrButthurt
DonteHaversham
It didnt use to be
ItsJustACoincidence
Have you tried Reddit?
DonteHaversham
Imgur was born of reddit
BitofaBstard
WHEREISMYTROPHY
It is now.... I miss the old days
76000BatteryLlamas
No sir, this is an Arbys
saganation
It's just a banana ma'am
scarredhotdog
ThatsOneCozyBoi
Gentlemen, this is the end.
scarredhotdog
UnitConversionBotButTerrible
HansWestergaard
*insert the gif here*
IThoughtIdComeUpWithABetterUserNameThanThis
TellusEidolon
supraman2turbo
It isnt an A to A comparison. The video links is the correct way to install tile. Back buttering help increase mortar coverage
sebT4
Back butter is better because most of the time you dont have space to wiggle the tile.
CubwardOHulihan
That wiggle is stupid, as is back buttering. It's all about making a good surface to start on. Level surface, consistent adhesive thickness.
BixbyConsequence
You only need a small wiggle, and you don't tile right up to a solid object; there should be a gap.
feliscorvus
Can’t beat a bit of better back butter.
Shadrack7
The full video actually addresses that topic
absurdative
No that’s not back buttering, only spitting.
wipethatfaceoffyourheadbitch
Not really. They just did a couple of little dots. Gotta slather that baby up like an albino at the equator.
Justzissguy
No they used the dots as an example of what not to do. They later addressed back buttering larger tiles and showed how to do it.
wipethatfaceoffyourheadbitch
Ah gotcha, I only half read the first comment and realized later that there was a link to the full youtube video.
IAmGodot
Video literally says "Backbuttering is recommended for most tile"
wipethatfaceoffyourheadbitch
Yeah, I didn’t notice there was a link. My bad.
DontAskMeAboutMyUsernameOkay
I'm not disagreeing with their method or their logic, it just seems that they put more effort into "collapsing" the straight lines...
FuddyHuddy
It let's the air escape. I back butter too. Which is flat troweling thinset on the tile. Wet to wet is best.
IAmTheBasicModel
yeah the way the hammer just casually glances off on the straight lines vs the others he follows through and hammer doesnt really bounce
FinscothDennehy
He probably does hit the ones that break harder, but it's expected that the hammer doesn't bounce when the tiles give and break.
joonyoungie
Seems like he put more hammer effort on the first tile too.
joot
You just reminded me of how they standardize head injuries in rat models of TBI. It looks like a catapult.
Putitinyomama
DontAskMeAboutMyUsernameOkay
I've got a feeling if they used the same placement technique on the straight lines as they did on the swirl lines, it'd break...
Cronos51101
The difference is that with straight lines, there's a path for the trapped air to escape.
DontAskMeAboutMyUsernameOkay
See I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm just saying that the video does a poor demonstration because they use different placement techniques.
M1ssPlace
They're doing it to demonstrate why the other techniques create issues.
AuthGaeuvyen
and they hit them differently too. On the ones he broke he hits along the edge first, but the one that didn't break h hits towards center
tryin2figureitout
By using straight lines perpendicular side to side movement collapses them, but swirls cant be completely collapsed with that motion.
tryin2figureitout
Watch the whole video. They show several attempts.
palmo
? Do you mean parallel?
pgdave
No - motion perpendicular to the lines - moving the tile back and forth.