How to install large tiles and create strong bond between the tile and the substrate

May 16, 2021 1:51 PM

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How to install large tiles and create strong bond between the tile and the substrate

https://youtu.be/Way5bMh-eYg

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Have you considered smacking it with a hammer was causing the problem?

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Me

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I wish I had seen this before I tiled my patio. Fortunately they're porcelain tiles and seem to be indestructible.

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I prefer the hammer method.

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I was really confused at first when I just read the title and he started just hammering the tile to pieces

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1200 sq. ft, all done by the inferior "spot bonding" method. 1/3 of tiles are broken. Beware of Kai Lindberg, formerly of Edmonton AB.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The shots of him smashing the tile look like something from Tim and Eric.

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100% there is an insane smile underneath a thousand yard stare just above the frame

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no no no you got a hit it with little hammers and gradually go up to bigger hammers so it builds up a resistance to hammer bangs

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I had these problems, but then I stopped hitting my tiles with a hammer.

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First things first is getting a flat surface to tile on. Large format tiles need 1/8th in 10 feet. Its a rare basement that's that flat.

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I lay tile. I was scared I was doing it wrong for a sec there oof insecurity

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Could I just not beat my tile floors with a hammer or nah?

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NO! The whole point of the video is that you must hammer your tiles to create a strong bond.... I think. TL;DR (W)

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Well, if you drop something, or step real hard, I think that is the point.

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Wow. That was cool and good to know.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Backbutter larger tiles.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

TIL!!!

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thank you.

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I was looking up how to install bathroom tiles and the guy was mentioning thos and i couldnt understand any of it until this momoment lol

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Smashing.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Consider someone will have to remove them once

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As someone who was just ripping up the previous home owners tile. I wish they used the wrong method.

4 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 0

Tore up an entire floor of tile when we moved in my current place. Plywood sublayer with deck screws every 5 inches and construction adhesiv

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Wish I knew this before I laid my bathroom tile. Seriously I had to replace it once already because I did the right substrate but swirled.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Oofff what size tile?

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It wasn't that bad it was only a 80 to 100 sq ft bathroom with 12' tile. Only the tile near the tub was needed to be replaced due to wear.

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There’s an ANSI standard for tile grouting? Crazy

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

There's ANSI standards for *anything* construction-related

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

What about the last tile you put in?

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Doomed

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

well just don't hit that one

4 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 1

Put it where it’s not stepped on (under the tub, behind the door...)

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It'll be in the corner and weep.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That's what the 'grout' lines are for...

4 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Use a tile vibrator.

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The trick is putting that one in first

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I love imgur... the smartass response gets more upvotes than the legit question!

4 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 0

<3

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Keep the guy with the hammer away from that one

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Last one will still have just enough room to move back and forth due to the spacing you should be making for grout lines.

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Tiles should never be directly touching each other.

4 years ago | Likes 39 Dislikes 0

Huh that makes sense

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Minimal grout offset like popular with fake wood floor thin tile, definitely would apply to his statement and your reply

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ya what a fucking amateur!! (sarcasm)

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That's grout to know.

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Make sure it's a corner tile that nobody will walk on.

4 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 0

Good point. Counter point. Don't hit your floor with a hammer and you will not have problems no matter how crappy the install was.

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Wiggle it. Just a little bit. I wanna see you wiggle it.

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Good ol' 90s animators working out their suppressed sexual preferences.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Wow we are old.

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As it grooves!

4 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 0

Acid grooves?

4 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I wanna see you wiggle it just a little bit as it grooves
Once the DJ lets it spin, it'll penetrate your skin

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

That's what I always thought yeah.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The beginning of the song kinda sounds like the opening theme of an anime that would be about butts or something

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I've always wondered.

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No matter how hard I tried, I would so Fuck that up.

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I love her excitement at a gift well chosen

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Well shit...

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Mmmmm yeah

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Wait is that green fire under there?? Could someone turn this into an upvote gif?

4 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Considering it's supposed to be yellow paint and normal fire... It's already an upvote gif, friend.

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Oh fuck, I didn't even watch past the part where I saw the fire I was so excited. Dangit

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okay, i gotta ask, whats the fucking point of having lines? why not just lay down a smooth layer to begin with? it couldnt be that hard to

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make a trowel with curved edges only to meter even layer

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

This was my thought as well. If the goal is to flatten out the adhesive... why not just make it flat to begin with?

4 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Video explains it: It gives air a path to escape. It's air pockets that create weak spots.

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The bed won't be perfectly flat. Let's say the tile has 80 percent contact. It will be difficult to push in such a way to remove the

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remaining "bubble". The rows allow the mortar to flow to where it's needed to eliminate any large voids.

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How's that compare to back buttering?

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I buttered your mom's backside last night.

4 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

We back buttered tiles at the place I worked at, it kind of accomplishes the same goal. More tile to mud to floor contact. Wiggle helps too!

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Well you won't get pregnant, at least

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I too chose this persons butter wife

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That thing you said made me laugh because I am immature

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Personally I've always preferred doing it like this than I did with back butter, but you can have success with both.

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Back buttering is still recommended for extremely large tiles, anything larger than 12x24 really.

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However the single direction mortar lines are extremely necessary.

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I only back butter large format tile (12" and up)

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Well butter my back and call me a biscuit.

4 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I did both for my 2' x 1' tiles.

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You do backbuttering on larger tiles to insure it adheres fully, but you gotta do it right.

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Tom Silva always back butters so I do too

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Right herrrree

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*Heeaahh

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Mike Holmes too

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Tom Silva is a living god among us

4 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Truth.

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He’s my spirit animal

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Sir, this is a family website.

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Well done friend, made me laugh

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It so isn't though.

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There's a pretty good chance I wasnt being serious.

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Holy shit you killed me with that one

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It didnt use to be

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Have you tried Reddit?

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Imgur was born of reddit

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It is now.... I miss the old days

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No sir, this is an Arbys

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It's just a banana ma'am

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Gentlemen, this is the end.

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*insert the gif here*

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It isnt an A to A comparison. The video links is the correct way to install tile. Back buttering help increase mortar coverage

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Back butter is better because most of the time you dont have space to wiggle the tile.

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That wiggle is stupid, as is back buttering. It's all about making a good surface to start on. Level surface, consistent adhesive thickness.

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You only need a small wiggle, and you don't tile right up to a solid object; there should be a gap.

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Can’t beat a bit of better back butter.

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The full video actually addresses that topic

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No that’s not back buttering, only spitting.

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Not really. They just did a couple of little dots. Gotta slather that baby up like an albino at the equator.

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No they used the dots as an example of what not to do. They later addressed back buttering larger tiles and showed how to do it.

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Ah gotcha, I only half read the first comment and realized later that there was a link to the full youtube video.

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Video literally says "Backbuttering is recommended for most tile"

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Yeah, I didn’t notice there was a link. My bad.

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I'm not disagreeing with their method or their logic, it just seems that they put more effort into "collapsing" the straight lines...

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It let's the air escape. I back butter too. Which is flat troweling thinset on the tile. Wet to wet is best.

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yeah the way the hammer just casually glances off on the straight lines vs the others he follows through and hammer doesnt really bounce

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He probably does hit the ones that break harder, but it's expected that the hammer doesn't bounce when the tiles give and break.

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Seems like he put more hammer effort on the first tile too.

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You just reminded me of how they standardize head injuries in rat models of TBI. It looks like a catapult.

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I've got a feeling if they used the same placement technique on the straight lines as they did on the swirl lines, it'd break...

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The difference is that with straight lines, there's a path for the trapped air to escape.

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See I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm just saying that the video does a poor demonstration because they use different placement techniques.

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They're doing it to demonstrate why the other techniques create issues.

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and they hit them differently too. On the ones he broke he hits along the edge first, but the one that didn't break h hits towards center

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By using straight lines perpendicular side to side movement collapses them, but swirls cant be completely collapsed with that motion.

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Watch the whole video. They show several attempts.

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? Do you mean parallel?

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No - motion perpendicular to the lines - moving the tile back and forth.

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