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spiritussancto
What part of "lock up ALL pedophiles" sounded like it had to do with political party? I dont give a shit who you are. You diddle kids, you're a monster
blzrdphoto
LOCK THEM UP!
But what if it’s your guy on the list too?
I DIDN’T STUTTER!
OkButWhyWereTheyFilming
Why wait for a list? We already know Clinton is a sex predator. Put them all away. Trump first though.
NeonKitsune
That's always my response whenever I mention any of the MAGA fascists crimes and someone pipes up with 'B-b-b-but Obama!' or 'But Bill Clinton got his knob polished in the oval office!!!!"
Munchman347
The maggats, 'We're not a cult! I can prove it by saying the same thing! Bill Clinton should go to jail for life! See?'... /s?
davcam
But her emails!
TheMershedPerderder
MAGAts suddenly don't like 'what-aboutism' these days.
Shaodyn
They don't think about politicians the same way we do. We want ours punished for their crimes just like anyone else. They want theirs protected.
Shaodyn
A major cornerstone of conservatism is the belief that there should be people whom the law protects but doesn't bind (conservatives) and people whom the law binds but doesn't protect (everyone else). That's why they got so mad when the FBI started investigating Trump for stealing documents. A conservative being bound by the law is basically blasphemy to them.
DesdemonaMoor
Instead, supporters are justifying that Trump is for the greater good, so who cares if he's on the list or a pedo. Yet those same people were radicalized into shooting up a pizza shop because they thought democrats were kidnapping and doing horrible things to children in a basement. Act on the lies and explain away truths.
EmbedAndBreakfast
Where's the list Bondi?
TheConnArtist
People who are still defending trump are predators about being on that list are also predators and no one should be around them ever. I don't care if it's your mom or dad or grandma or grandpa they are not safe people and you should run.
idiotsonfire
Everyone on the list or that ever shared ass space with him needs to be in jail.
DVSBSTrD
@OP Or you could just point out they're lying because saying you're willing to throw someone you ovbiously hate in jail doesn't prove shit.
Intabih4
It really is that easy.
wannasee
"But Clinton is too...."
The "but" cancels out everything you say before it.
tempancich
Just shows that YOU are the one in the cult. Both should go to jail *if* they are guilty.
wannasee
Uh..i think we are in agreement..unless you are in a cult (and if so, good luck with that).
No, ifs, and or BUTs. Guilty is guilty and they should all burn. Anyone complicit in hiding this shit is as guilty as those they protect and deserve nothing less as well.
CgnCalling
What seems so strange to me is that all this was known years ago and people either forgot or hose to ignore it. Clinton is on the flight lists, Chris Tucker is on them and many others. Now just being on that island is not criminal but at least morally and ethically questionable. Witnessing crimes and not reporting them is reprehensible and maybe criminal (not familiar with US penal code). I liked Clinton - but if he committed a crime - off to jail.
MaybeIllDisappear
Remember how quick we turned on Neil Gaimon? I adored Gaimon, his books and how nice he seemed on the Internet, but once I knew he was an abuser, he was burned. Because I am not in a cult!
FrolickingFrolicking
I always disliked his books and art
MaybeIllDisappear
I will respectfully disagree. Coraline was a huge influence on my style. Now I see it in stores,.cute purses and shirts, and I have to turn away.
miertfoglaltmindenfelhasznalonev
*Gaiman (your autocorrect makes him sound like a Pokémon, haha).
I read most of his books and short stories, and loved the series adaptations of them too. I’m so disappointed in him as a person but I can’t let that ruin my appreciation of his work. There are so many artists/creators who turn out to be difficult people, assholes or straight up monsters… the art is still art for me, whoever created it.
miertfoglaltmindenfelhasznalonev
Just to clarify, I think people committing crimes should go to jail independent of how famous or rich they are. But Gaiman, a creator, in more ways than one, is not the best analogy for a politician. Let’s imagine the politician worked on a law that helps people (imagine, I said), if they turn out to be a monster, you wouldn’t eradicate the good law,, just because they wrote it and fought and voted for it, right? Just put them in jail and keep the good stuff that benefits people.
MaybeIllDisappear
So I see your point, but with horrible people like Gaiman and Rowling, they still profit from purchasing their products. You are correct though, the Nazis created freeways and rockets, and we didn't stop using them, and (hopefully) acknowledge they were made by horrible people, but their benefit outweighs their creator's deeds and the creators no longer profit from their usage.
CodyWeber
Literally my favorite author got outed as a sex pest. Know what i said? Fuck that guy, he gets what he deserves.
hsalonen3000
Bill Clinton was actually one of your better presidents. He turned deficit into surplus and economy was good. Still, if he was on Epstein Island, I too would send him to jail. Laws should apply to everyone, no exceptions.
qwertdeep
Purely on economy he’s a good president? He made lives worse for coloured people with the Crime Bill, helped deregulation via the repeals of the glass-steagall act, and worsened poverty and inequality via the welfare reform in 96. Didn’t he lobby the UN to not use the word ‘genocide’ during the Rwandan genocide? He also bypassed the UN to bomb Kosovo but that is debatably justified depending on the framework you use
qwertdeep
Tbf, even that puts him better than a lot of presidents though. US presidents are mostly cunts
GoodbyeTwitter
Kreviathan
I don't give a shit who's on the list, it could be fucking Mr. Rogers. Put them all in prison ffs.
freakdiablo
Politicians aren't idols. They aren't your favorite sports team or your favorite actor. Do not treat them as such. They are there to work for you. And they need to be held accountable when they fuck up.
just4thelolz
Them assuming that we would want to keep "our" pedophile is a very telling piece of projection indeed.
mrsdowneyjr
I'm assuming they're also thinking that the accusations against their favorite millionaire are made up, whereas the ones against yours are true
TheWombatStrikesAgain
It's like the far-right version of empathy: assume everyone else it at least as shitty as you are.
InTheBeginningWasTheNerd
That's because a defining feature of conservatism is lack of empathy. Their brains literally cannot comprehend that other people think and act differently from them. They think that everyone is a conservative, the progressives are just pretending to fool other "not-conservatives" into trusting them. Because that's the only reason they'd fake caring for others, which means that everyone else must be faking it, too. That's why "every accusation is a confession".
msfeatherbottom
Hmm this is actually a really spot on breakdown
EmbedAndBreakfast
Wow, that's something to think about.
rshini
or that everyone else is too chickenshit to say their true opinions and need the Manly-Man Conservative to say "The truth"
FatBastardVegetarian
MAGAs are losing their minds about this. Burning hats and shit.
stoots24
What if Tom Hanks was on the list? Doesn't matter - go directly to jail.
4thwalled
Imadethisaccounttopost
The list needs to be released
Correlation is not causation, Epstein was a sleeze and a smooze. He'd suck up to anyone who had money or power.
While some may be innocent, the list gives us places to look, and maybe hopefully even more details.
If they're guilty, which I bet many of them are, throw them away and lock away the key.
mayoradamwest12
Isn't it possible that the list was used to exert political pressure? Get people to the island w/out them knowing why initially, use as blackmail or control? Could that be why it's not released? I'm not saying there is a secret state or something... But creating this island situation for power could've been done.
SithElephant
It's pretty unclear what it is. If he was trying to get people involved for either blackmail or influence reasons, lots of people on the list may have limited guilt, going from 'did not report clear suspicions' on through 'was utterly oblivious to hints dropped and was never involved'. And then there is questions about how accurately this was all recorded. What is needed is a careful and detailed investigation of the whole thing and prosecutions of the guilty to the fullest extent of the law.
mayoradamwest12
I think we know that investigation is exactly what won't happen. Confidence in govt = 0
Illumian85
No no, they did the investigation and just concluded that there is no list, remember.
DestinyPrevails
That's one of the public stories. The allegation as I understand it is that he may have had ties to US and/or Israeli intelligence and set up the paedo island for honeypots and blackmail, to be used by either CIA or Mossad. It purports to explain the flight logs, since getting people on the flight logs would implicate them and that can later be used as blackmail. I don't know if the story is actually true but you can google "epstein CIA ties" (/Mossad) to see that it's a widely circulated story.
clankthegray
I guarantee that trump is using epstiens client list for blackmail
TanithRosenbaum
Likely has already used. I mean, this is pure guessing, but the list disappearing just days after trump's "big beautiful bill" passed, with republicans who initially said they couldn't vote for it suddenly voting for it? it's more than a little bit suspicious isn't it?
TheSmellOfWineAndCheapPerfume
This
zanaria
I don't care who is on the list, if it's true that they are and not just republicans making it up, then lock them up too. It doesn't matter what party someone is with, a crime is still a crime.
just4thelolz
No! That's cancel culture! /s
DaveSamsonite
See the following affadavit made under oath with witness testimony that he raped a 12 year old girl. /gallery/wkZuFSl
jayskyall
Everyone deserves a fair trial. Everyone deserves equal punishment. I don't care what flag you fly or what party you belong to. Its a thing called justice.
zanaria
Exactly. Hell, if a member of my family was on that list (not possible, we aint rich) then I'd turn them in myself.
ItAintAllitsCrackedUpToBe
Evil is evil, no matter what club (or cult) you join
smashfaceawesome
Or first convict them and then lock em up.
WhoHim
I remember when a trial was implied by saying someone should be locked up. Now we have to specify that a trial needs to happen
smashfaceawesome
If that’s our nomenclature I’m down. These days some don’t care about due process, precedent, or heck laws.
I’m down for that being the turn of phrase though, I hate how the left eats its own instead of moving forward.
zanaria
*sighs* Yeah trial was pretty much implied, especially with the "true and not just made up" because that list, if true, would be quite the incriminating evidence.
henryvk
Imagine thinking that anyone in their right mind cares about Bill Clinton going to jail
inkpod
I don't think bill Clinton was that bad as a president, but if he had sex with minors, he needs to be accountable.
FrankJustice1
He was a good President, just probably not a great person. It's hard to tell what wrongs he's actually done through a sea of false and exaggerated accusations though.
SavageDrums
Hillary barely cares.
CocoPuppyFlyer
You don't know that.
SavageDrums
No, but that doesn't matter for the purposes of my joke.
VikingsAreNinjaPirates
They seem to think we have the same rabid loyalty to our "team" that they have to theirs. Fuck no. If you have evidence that a crime took place, let's get the court filings going. Do it right, so they can't get out in a technicality and then are immune due to double jeopardy.
pyroshen
They jsut assume everyone idolized their "glorious leader" as much as they do.
TheSmellOfWineAndCheapPerfume
This always cracks me up too! Like you insult rotten yam tits and they get so butthurt over the perceived personal attack that they insult whoever across the aisle is trending at the moment and you either agree that the other politician is xyz or you just stay in debate mode. And they can’t handle that you don’t personally feel attacked
qwertdeep
The “in their right mind” is an important qualifier. I’ve had people on here vehemently arguing that Clinton was fully innocent and one person said that the only comment about him in the Epstein files is that he was a perfect gentleman. Crazies exist amongst the anti-Republican crowd too
CocoPuppyFlyer
This is an argument about which none of us have any knowledge of actual facts
DVSBSTrD
Imagine hating Bill Clinton just because you want everyone to believe you're impartial.
NeonKitsune
Being willing to subject Bill Clinton to justice has nothing to do with hate. If he went to Epstein's parties and diddled underage kids, then he can rot in a cell, sharing a bunk with Trump.
TheSmellOfWineAndCheapPerfume
I personally don’t hate him at all. I would be sad if he were on it. But I also feel like there is a reason his name specifically is continued to be brought up with the list. If he’s on it: arrest him, have a trial, present evidence and if found guilty, sentence and carry out the max of all sentences to all the charges. Or give him a plea to be able to do time (not probation) etc and not risk losing the trial on a technicality. Either way give him the due process everyone deserves and 1/2
TheSmellOfWineAndCheapPerfume
Act accordingly. As much as I HATE rotten yam tits, he also deserves the same due process. But his victims deserve justice. So I don’t care who is on the list. Release it and hold everyone accountable
qwertdeep
Yeah, it’s such a stupid reason. Especially when he has plenty to hate on, like the ‘94 crime bill used to disproportionately incarcerate brown people, worsening poverty through the ‘96 Welfare reform act and contributing to financial deregulation. You can also throw his scandals in there too but they affect way less people even though the individual actions may be arguably worse. He isn’t worse than a lot of presidents but he contributed to a bad quality of life for many.