Record yourself reading the applicable clauses from statutes and the constitution. I can't imagine that you could be found guilty of the crime of providing live legal information to both sides present in order to prevent an incident. Dress as uncle Sam??
As a professional 5 year shit bird, you absolutely have a choice about being there, it just depends how much shit you are willing to get into to get out of it...
Maybe it’s not effective but it allows the ones doing it the opportunity to bask and gloat saying that they’ve done their part and got off the couch and did something.
Because they DO have a choice. They signed up. They continue to show up to their job doing what they're told to do. They point their guns where they're told to and they happily bask in the 'Thank you for your service!' pro-military culture the US does so well. They're either willing to sell out their morals for a paycheck, or they didn't have those morals to begin with.
If they don’t follow orders one of the actual potential penalties is death, but even lesser punishment is pretty bad when you kinda want to feed your family. Js.
I think you’re severely misunderstanding what the military does. And a reminder, the military is made up of EVERY demographic in the US. Even people that are exactly like you.
You don’t just get to quit the military. It’s a contract and the penalties involved with “not showing up” are severe.
It’s also important to understand their oath is to the constitution, not any political figure. The morals and ethics that are imparted on them are far and above better than the average US citizen.
It’s also amongst the most apolitical entities in the US government. All major social changes in the US started in the military - from desegregation to LGBT integration. The military is time and again at the forefront of social change for the better. Does it have its problems? Of course. Like I mentioned before, it’s EVERY demographic in the US and not everyone is ready to deal with change.
You can see the agreement in their faces. They don’t want to be there. They’re not cops. They’re not ICE.
Do you think that when trump says "go to DC and swarm the city", that it instantly happens? They don't have a chip in their brain, there's no "physical" boundry stopping them from not doing it. If your boss tells you to shoot your coworker in the face are you gonna just do it?
Ah right, my bad, I forgot about wherever you are from, where they obviously make you put on a pair of trousers controlled by a penguin the moment you enlist.
I have attached a picture that I think must be from your home land.
Firstly, that argument didn't work in Nuremberg, it's not going to work here. Secondly, no one is being physically harmed by recordings of Hanoi Hannah being played, it's not like anyone is throwing a sandwich at them
I'm not arguing against the protest. I'm discussing tactics. Enlisted on guard duty, have zero power. Why not go protest in front of say the NG Unit commander's house usually they're off base? Or a Assistant DHS Director 100% they're in a neighborhood chant and march 24/7 so they can't sleep. You're not making it harder on the people in POWER. They don't give a shit if you're in the street making life hard on the enlisted, or the agents. Now if you make THEIR lives harder, you will actually>
get somewhere. The DHS Director is on a military base now cause of doxing and protests. There's only so many people they can do that with, if you protest from the Top down, you're going to get much better results from the bottom up. The only thing this video does is tick off 4 guys who really can't do anything but bitch about it. This protest is a waste of time, and energy. The key is to make them use resources, make them waste time, this does none of that.
TheGriffin
Absolutely amazing
rubypilgrim
nice. Good work! Tennessee also fighting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FwFITGxejk protests against a company wanting to re-open a closed prison as an ICE facility
Golemin
horrible music tho
Sayagain
Isn't that the music from Red Dawn?
Drinkfist
Kinda the idea.
PalaverQuader
lol. they used those lines in BF:Vietnam as well.
DropDrop
Can we get something like this for the ice and national guard being used against the citizens of their own country?
MGMZ11
NG, probably. ICE? Nah, they enjoy being malicious tools.
cocainemonster
You mean Vietnam war recordings?
Weblord
Record yourself reading the applicable clauses from statutes and the constitution. I can't imagine that you could be found guilty of the crime of providing live legal information to both sides present in order to prevent an incident. Dress as uncle Sam??
RenaissanceFaireMan
That's exactly what should be happening.
Wolfschwarzmond
Question. These guys have little to no choice about being there. Why do all the people protesting go after low level people that can't>
cabalin
You always have a choice
XaoJet
As a professional 5 year shit bird, you absolutely have a choice about being there, it just depends how much shit you are willing to get into to get out of it...
Wolfschwarzmond
FYI I'm not saying don't protest. I'm saying use your time and energy effectively. This is not effective.
whoatherebigfella
Maybe it’s not effective but it allows the ones doing it the opportunity to bask and gloat saying that they’ve done their part and got off the couch and did something.
RenaissanceFaireMan
They do have a choice.
Portarossa
Because they DO have a choice. They signed up. They continue to show up to their job doing what they're told to do. They point their guns where they're told to and they happily bask in the 'Thank you for your service!' pro-military culture the US does so well. They're either willing to sell out their morals for a paycheck, or they didn't have those morals to begin with.
BlumenOnion
If they don’t follow orders one of the actual potential penalties is death, but even lesser punishment is pretty bad when you kinda want to feed your family. Js.
Portarossa
Oh, they're doing it for MONEY! Well gee whiz, why didn't you say so? That makes it all better!
bodyvsspirit
I think you’re severely misunderstanding what the military does. And a reminder, the military is made up of EVERY demographic in the US. Even people that are exactly like you.
You don’t just get to quit the military. It’s a contract and the penalties involved with “not showing up” are severe.
It’s also important to understand their oath is to the constitution, not any political figure. The morals and ethics that are imparted on them are far and above better than the average US citizen.
bodyvsspirit
It’s also amongst the most apolitical entities in the US government. All major social changes in the US started in the military - from desegregation to LGBT integration. The military is time and again at the forefront of social change for the better. Does it have its problems? Of course. Like I mentioned before, it’s EVERY demographic in the US and not everyone is ready to deal with change.
You can see the agreement in their faces. They don’t want to be there. They’re not cops. They’re not ICE.
Frogyz
Do you think that when trump says "go to DC and swarm the city", that it instantly happens?
They don't have a chip in their brain, there's no "physical" boundry stopping them from not doing it. If your boss tells you to shoot your coworker in the face are you gonna just do it?
bottledham
You have no idea how the military works
NexusOverlord
"I was just following orders"
Frogyz
Ah right, my bad, I forgot about wherever you are from, where they obviously make you put on a pair of trousers controlled by a penguin the moment you enlist.
I have attached a picture that I think must be from your home land.
Portarossa
And you have the moral backbone of a used condom, what's your point?
Wolfschwarzmond
Affect policy or make a change? Why aren't they doing this at the WH or the Pentagon, or DHS?
MelfsAcidArrow
https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTY1YjkxZmJlbXNyZ25uejZoY2xudjJrZG1renJqcnMxcnpudGx1cTZud3llemthcSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/YebCIK19XH8DvK0nep/200w.mp4
StylesRockman
Firstly, that argument didn't work in Nuremberg, it's not going to work here. Secondly, no one is being physically harmed by recordings of Hanoi Hannah being played, it's not like anyone is throwing a sandwich at them
bottledham
Nobody claimed they were being harmed. In fact it looks like one of the guys was about to laugh.
Wolfschwarzmond
I'm not arguing against the protest. I'm discussing tactics. Enlisted on guard duty, have zero power. Why not go protest in front of say the NG Unit commander's house usually they're off base? Or a Assistant DHS Director 100% they're in a neighborhood chant and march 24/7 so they can't sleep. You're not making it harder on the people in POWER. They don't give a shit if you're in the street making life hard on the enlisted, or the agents. Now if you make THEIR lives harder, you will actually>
Wolfschwarzmond
get somewhere. The DHS Director is on a military base now cause of doxing and protests. There's only so many people they can do that with, if you protest from the Top down, you're going to get much better results from the bottom up. The only thing this video does is tick off 4 guys who really can't do anything but bitch about it. This protest is a waste of time, and energy. The key is to make them use resources, make them waste time, this does none of that.
StylesRockman
How much time and energy do you believe was spent on this?