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Feb 22, 2021 10:59 AM
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youlookedatmyusername
I use epoch time stamps everywhere
OlksPolks
As a European I have to keep telling myself 9/11 happened in September, and not November
Mithi
9.11 is Reichskristallnacht, easy to memorize.
dragovaar
Join us again next week when we talk about the metric system.
RickRollable
That was last week
Serenitis
YMD is best. It can be sorted without separating. DMY & MDY can't be sorted without separating. But at least DMY makes some kind of sense.
blumpk1npie
Best for filing on windows
TheStateOfDenial
s/windows/any lexigraphical sorting method/ ftfy
emptyother
Well... Technically...
lDanielHolm
There's no reason to depict it like that, though.
Iullabee
Well... Technically...
pattyofurniture400
Do Europeans write Dec 31 2005 as 13.21.5002?
YesmynameisGreg
I do hate that the pyramids are bottom up. English reads left - right/top - down, so if the date is left right, pyramid should be top down.
KarenFromTheHOA
At least they got it right that the ddmmyyyy format is sorted backwards
sylkysmooth
More technically the month is, in fact, the smallest one. There's only 12 possibilities where as the day is the middle as there's no less >
sylkysmooth
> than 28 possibilities, and Year is correct as largest as there's countless possibilities.
GrandProtectorDark
Except you know, unit amount doesn't fuckin matter. 1 Month is still larger than 28 days.
sylkysmooth
Why wouldn't it matter? And whether a month is larger than 28 days depends entirely on the month and the year.
GrandProtectorDark
What is larger, 2 Miles or 300 Yards. 80 cent or 2 Dolar? 6 Teaspoons or 1 Cup?
sylkysmooth
You're comparing space with time? That makes no sense. You have days in a month, there are 12 months, only 12 pages to a calendar. The >
GrandProtectorDark
Did you just fuckin mute me because we disagree over fuckin date formats?
GrandProtectorDark
test
WizardofAwws
I prefer MM/YYYY/DD
ticktockbent
MMMM/Y/DDD
TargetedAdBot
I prefer MM/YY/DD. It's 02/22/21 today.
YesmynameisGreg
You mean 02/21/22?
TargetedAdBot
Yes, I do... and as you can see how well my own system works....
Rezurektme
Some chaotic energy right here.
grantplant
Perfect
RickRollable
debthepleb
I prefer YMYDYDYM
YesmynameisGreg
20022212
debthepleb
kaneinencanto
Are we not going to address the oddity of reading the "pyramid" from bottom to top instead of top down?
IamfunatpartiesIknow
You read the pyramid from bottom to top?
hamberglar
I unironically like the american format. 99% of the time when someone gives you a date that you care about, it's happening in the next month
hamberglar
which means that the number you care most about is which day it's on, and then you check to make sure it's this month or next.
hamberglar
And the year is an afterthought. Honestly, I think it's very functional, same as farenheit. Celsius is great if you're doing science, but
hamberglar
farenheit is great because 100 is "very hot for humans" and 0 is "very cold for humans". Celcius is a guessing game unless you're familiar.
leviking
When is it? Monday! Be more specific!? Monday the 22nd! More specific?! Monday the 22nd of february! More!? Monday the 22nd of february 2021
Malikhi
Because it's said in casual conversation as " February the 22nd, 2021" in American colloquialism. Thus MM/DD/YYYY.
Malikhi
I have no idea how we ended up there however. I suspect in older American English it was meant as "February's 22nd day" or something
magicbryanconnolly
Literally only used by the USA. No... other... nation.
hellospacemonkey
As an American, please help us change. I started writing dates In European format to force people to change. I say distances in meters too.
DuelingBrothers
I use meters when I'm exposing SCP Foundation secrets because they've hit me with amnestics so many times I'm too dumb to convert.
debthepleb
I don't particularly have a problem with either dates apart from when I had to spend 2 days detained at an American airport because my DOB /
debthepleb
/ was "wrong" on my documents.
FeChefImgur
Keep spreading the good word !
PianoMan2112
We tried metric, only ended up with 2 liter bottles of Coke, and kilos of coke (Kilos? A thousand what - kilometers? kilocalories?)
PianoMan2112
Oh yeah, and 1000 kilocalories is 1 Calorie (capitalized), so our 95 Calorie lite (light?] beer isn’t 95,000 calories (95 kcal).
PianoMan2112
Lastly, I thong our clothes sizes might be giving us false confidence too - an XL shir
PianoMan2112
*shirt in US was XXL in UK.
RevengeIsIceCream
kilogram is the only one abbreviated to kilos AFAIK
PianoMan2112
I like how the longer I bitched, the lower the point counts got.
aworkoffiction
Idk I just write it the way we put it in sentences. “January 6th, 1947, was an ominous time in our history.” 1/6/47
naomiMoonBeast
School taught me m/d/y military taught me y/m/d.
Bl4nk3t
When speaking it, I say it's February 22, 2021 so it make sense to me to write it that way. The 22 of February, 2021 just sounds like much.
GrandProtectorDark
When speaking, I say 22nd of February
Bl4nk3t
Good for you
texasfoodman
Time zones are a bigger issue than the format. Format is easy with a regex. Time zones require a whole dictionary to reference.
Filanwizard
Probably why internally many systems use GMT/UTC/Zulu.
delicatepeasant
ISO 8601 format includes timezone information.
texasfoodman
Does it include dst information for ist compared to cdt and gmt and utc with accuracy to the second going back 5 years? That’s my point.
delicatepeasant
Of course not. None of that information is part of ANY representation of a point in time.
texasfoodman
What you said does not negate my point.
texasfoodman
Versus a regex which can take the input, parse it out and get you the output.
AllTheGoodOnesWereGone
MYDYDM
sonomarco
My computer files are YYMMDD (210222) -- easy to sort.
danielsan1977
It's not "quantity" of the individual fields, it's how they're sorted. You have days in a month, and months in a year.
badbirdlb
Who gives a fuck how the data looks in a triangle? stop finding stupid shit to be butt hurt and bitch about the paper size mess we have.
SuperUpvote
I use ISO standard when I am at work, then European in my personal life. I see no instance when American would be useful.
NoeCarrier
Yeah, and their calendrical system is shit too!
LightningMcQueef
When you’re in America
Kakya
As an American I do day month abbreviation then year. 22 Feb 2021. I would gladly use European. Our way makes no sense.
DaveSamsonite
It’s used by China, all the way back in time as far as I know. Big emphasis on seasons. They recognize 12 weather seasons culturally.
sykoticflaw
US military uses DD/MM/YYYY on official documents
TheVenerableJudgeTaintyMcPoo
I see no instance where it makes sense, but clearly the system is useful when you’re in a place that uses that system. When in Rome...
Popspoppingit
That way I don't have to constantly say "of"
ImCaelom
It’s not useful. Even our own military and government agencies use DD/MM/YYYY
Xedi22
ISO makes so much more sense...and is much harder to mix up with mm/dd.
sylkysmooth
In this cyclical and endless slog called reality people often forget the month but know the day because it's just the one after the last.
Cheomesh
It's useful here in the USA. Where I live and conduct basically all of my business.
Contundo
Not really, yyyymmdd is. mmddyy tells you the date sure, but once you have to use the data It’s pretty much useless.
Cheomesh
Literally every meeting, appointment, or other gathering I've been involved in has used MMDDYY, as does almost every form I've ever filled.
datagreed
Everywhere ≠ useful
Cheomesh
lol
BingleBongle42
It's my default, the other ones make more sense, but my brain uses American by default unfortunately.
HermitBean
It wouldn't be problem if people used "." when using dd.mm.yyyy and "/" when using mm/dd/yyyy. People mix these up and u get like 12/2/2021
Sagromus
You probably did not get the problem...
SpecialAgentCake
American system is ordered by max amounts. 12 months, 28/29/30/31 days, infinite years.
tracereading
Because you really say "13th November" in casual speech. Dumbass.
sourshampoo
TBH 13th November sounds American to me. You weirdos say 2020 as “two thousand twenty”. The civilised world says “two thousand and twenty”.
hammockduke
Here in America, I usually hear “twenty-twenty.”
Nerfection
... I take it you've never heard of the fourth of July, then?
Yotarian
I'm an American, and even I know that lots of people outside the US say "13th of November."
ChecksDownVoted
True. You say 13th Of November
LoPan
We write it the way we say it; do you roll off dates like "twenty twenty May third" like a psychopath, or "May third twenty twenty?" hmm
AntRam95
2020, 3, 5
LoPan
"hey man, what's the date today?" | "twenty twenty three five" Nobody talks like that... unless you're a robot
AntRam95
We’re typing not talking, jackass
LoPan
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Chimwizlet
I think you'll find it's the other way around, you say it that way because you write it that way. In the UK we say 3rd of May twenty twenty
theatand
The US version does get to skip the "of".
DewiMorgan
That's the kind of thinking that ends up with "wanna come with?"
mopfmopf
Dritter Mai Zweitausendzwanzig :)
NerdNerdburger
American is a spoken system; the year is an afterthought, only tacked on at the end if necessary. Feb 22nd is faster to say than 22nd of Feb
Xedi22
American here, I only use ISO everywhere unless a form forces otherwise.
IraqiWalker
I have found literally 0 instances where American was useful
AbsolutelyNotTheNSA
"I see no instance when American would be useful". Words to fucking live by!
darkjedi607
Month first gets you in the ballpark, day let's you specify, and year is mostly just clarification, as most of the time it's this year.
darkjedi607
It's also a small, bigger, biggest logic, as in there are 12 possible months 31 possible days, and many possible years.
IDontKnowWhatToDoAnymoreAndImTired
It came about because traditionally we wrote out the months as a word, not a number. "February 22nd" sounds better than "22nd February."
Red108
No, it doesn't.
FilamentBuster
It sounds weird however you arent used to. That said, 22nd February could mean sequential or a date. "22nd of February" or "the 22nd of Feb"
ICollectReactionGifs
i'm so scatterbrained that having the month be the primary number is useful, but i'm probably in the minority
Magnasplit
European here. It makes sense when spoke. February twentysecond twentytwentyone
datagreed
Depends on the language
Gray365
InappropriateGifGuy
I'm sorry I couldn't hear over the sound of our flag on the moon
Gray365
Allegedly
ShadeEmberi
your flag is white now
Jandegrote
I mean apart from the fact you would not hear that flag but that aside Nasa used metric for all lunar missions.
aPinchofMensch
So we can have 4/20/2021 instead of 20/4/2021 or 2021/4/20
xcelita
And 3/14 Pie day.
FnordGallop
so, 2021-3-14? That's fine
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FnordGallop
Well, there isn't one so, I think we're good.
SuperUpvote
In Europe we can just blaze it whenever because it doesn't get you a death sentence here.
debthepleb
fitchy0812
It's legal in many states actually. But I get what you mean, unfortunately.
YoSamiteSam
So is the death penalty, which is almost as dystopian and fucked as filling private prisons with minorities for cheap forced labor.
fitchy0812
Very few still allow the death penalty I believe, but yes American prison system and judicial system are an actual nightmare
Gray365
Yeah, so you copied drug legalization before the metric system...
fitchy0812
I mean I work in a cannabis extraction lab and we use the metric system, and I've been on metric for years if that helps....
stankginchfurbuger
Whatcha talking about? They buy in grams, only sell in ounces
SteveBinCypressTexas
Because that's, how I say it out loud.... today is February 22nd, 2021. 2/22/2021
Deadmansshoes
Or you could say it today is the 22nd of February 2021. You change the order just to remove the word "of"
hammersquirrel
You could beep the binary representation of EBCDIC characters too. The point is people write like they talk, and 150 years ago nobody cared>
hammersquirrel
About the sort order of tabular data. Whether other systems have benefits, it’s a perfectly reasonable answer to “why write it like that”
DewiMorgan
Except, it's most likely the other way round: US only started saying it wrong, AFTER they started writing it wrong, cos that's how it reads.
debthepleb
Don't know, most english speakers I've met outside the US say 22nd Feb or something.
loma45
In Canada (at least west coast) we generally say "October 31st, 2009" etc
geraint616
But you also say 4th of July. Which is pretty much the format most countries speak in
MizzerCow
'4th of July' is the holiday, it just happens on July 4th
LoPan
Because it's the holiday's name, we're not going to switch up how we say the other 364 days. We'll say July fifth the next day
TheBlueMuppet
We got our 4th of July from a European country.
SteveBinCypressTexas
Yeah, but we say that more as the name of the holiday.
Banjo143
Today is the 4th of July?
Billis75
That's an exception because it's the day we dumped King George. the day after is July 5th.
1245restatemyassumptions
The 5th of November
TheLeftNugget
IT'S FEBRUARY.
f1223214
Only in english languages. Doubt it's the case for the others countries.
crankytapir
I dunno why you're gettin downvoted, I don't expect people to know "the done thing" in other dialects (Hiberno-English is very fucky)
alnilam
Yeah, In Arabic it is 22nd of February 2021 only way of saying if so 22/2/2021 checks out..
crankytapir
I, an Irishman, would say the 22nd of February. I suspect it is not an English thing, but an American English thing. (What do Canadians do?)
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
I've done both, but I use m/d only when discussing a future event in a different month, and most others seem similar in that.
im25ok
American format for speech. I honestly have no idea our format for numbers with slashes. I’m not even sure if we’re consistent about it.
im25ok
Every time I see one I just hope the day is higher than 12 or I’m hopped.
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
I've seen both get used at work, but d/m/y is more common. QC's ID are y/m/d, but my bank cards are m/y, and my student ID is m/d/y.
DaiInAFire
That's probably because of the date format - in the UK, for instance, you're more likely to hear "the 22nd of February, 2021".
GinOClock
I can remember dates better if I go day/month/year.
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nonsensecomment
Lol...definitely not
etopsirhc
there is nothing wrong with the american system. we simply organized it from smallest to largest. 1-12 / 1-31 / 1-9999
GrandProtectorDark
Sorting by unit amount is bullshit. Unit size is only valid
ayavaska
So did the rest of the world – I mean, don't get offended, day is smaller than month, not the other way.
etopsirhc
month only goes up to 12, day goes up to 31. numeracly day is bigger than month.
ayavaska
And this is SO useful in day-to-day operations, right?
etopsirhc
for those with actual ocd, yes
PINEAPPLELEMONADE
Pharmaceutical manufacturering is DD.MMM.YYYY as in 22Feb2021. I use this for everything.
Noughmad
And that is yet another workaround to accommodate the US, they made 4/5 and 5/4 ambiguous.
LordChungusGalungus
I picked that up when I used to do technical writing for the chemical industry. I still use it all the time.
youlookedatmyusername
This is clearer. But then opens up new issues when handling different languages.
bigkingdingaling
Military kind if uses that too. Had to catch myself in the real world 05Feb21
thenewteddy
omg really?? I've been using this personally for years now and its great!! I never knew anyone else used the same! :D
FeoJ
Is it because amount of #’s? Low to high? (1-12/1-31/1900-?)
symmetry7
Probably more like increasing specificity as a general rule, but pushing the year 'til the end b/c it's usually this year / not necessary.
Cushionhead
Thank you. I don't think people understand that different methods are better in different formats. Like the metric system, it is the best1/2
Cushionhead
for most things, but if you are flying a plane or sailing a ship then the nautical mile which is exactly 1 minute of latitude is best. 2/2
iTakeHourLongShits
Thank you! Never understood what kind of psychopath managed to turn dates into a fucking pyramid.
debthepleb
That's a better explanation than ones I've heard before. But I don't make plans with people, and for my PC I use YYYYMMDD.
Zombiepark
Military form logic: different format every single time. Add in three letter months as well (ex APR, MAR) :(
JayEnfield
In some of the industries I've worked in, the months are a letter code, A through M, but skip I. Date codes on beer and serial codes on HVAC
Mrgoodshoes
I kind of like using the 17JUN21 format. It is very easy to instantly skim and understand.
Myavar
I've honestly never thought about this. It's it... weird.. to think "this month is Feb, it's the 22nd, in the year 2021." ?
Myavar
Aw shit.... but the saying is always "what day is it"... wtf
kingbudo101
you just say "its February 22nd" not "its the 22nd of February"
Myavar
I don't even do that, personally. Normally I'll mentally default to day of the week, then the number of the day. Like Monday, then 22nd.
sparkletempt
Days packed in month, months packed in years. From smallest unit to the biggest.
FreggDillmilker
Yeah exactly is that hard to understand?
RickRollable
Downvoters
apeshigh
Years split by months split by days. Like hundreds split by tens split by ones.
BobbieNell
Also how it is written out: January 1st, 2021. We don't typically say "the first of January of the year 2021" cause that's just awkward.
Tesseract09
But we do say "1st January, 2021"
BobbieNell
I have never once said the date like that.
Tesseract09
Ah, but you did in your mind when you read what I wrote.
JustFeedMePieDammit
I do year-month-day because if you sort the folders by their names it also does it chronologically for you :)
FreggDillmilker
Yeah for folders itd be easier that way but if youre trying to get mor immediate information what good is the year doing you?
FreggDillmilker
“Hey what day is that party?” “Oh its 2021 june 6 at 6:00pm.” Shitty example prolly but whatever
sparkletempt
Same principle and for folders i do it too
spidermenz
You said unit
bomboy23
Then you should read our the time first, staying with seconds
bolobass
American time is hours:seconds:minutes?
sparkletempt
What time is it- ten.What date is it- February?The same approach doesn't applIy to all.ISO great for research,EUR for everyday use
bomboy23
When's the wedding? This year, month, day, hour, minutes, seconds probably rounded
sparkletempt
When's your mom available? All year long
RelaxYourself
When sorting files for work the best is really YYYY/MM/DD. Can't convince me otherwise.
PatternsinChaos
DD-MM-YYYY it's all about most significant figures first and dates matter more than years do
IWishPeopleWouldStopStealingMyUsernames
Which is why it's the international standard
cyberimg
No slashes! Dashes!
SantaPanda
just use the sql date format YYYY-MM-DD, less trouble than those slashes!
patapof
ISO 8601 YYYY-MM-DDTHH:MM:SS.SSSSZ is the only format that should exist
memiter
i'm all for it except the "T". let's get rid of the T...
LisaSimps0nsDr3aM
Please add correct timezone ... this is highly uncomfortable ... thx
Wor3q
There is a timezone in there. Z = UTC.
patapof
Z is the best timezone
87cubed
This is the way.
somedudeinla
YYYYMMDD followed by _filename is the only way to sort in a simple, clean way.
CanadianEngineer
Things can be sorted by more than one piece of metadata. E.g. date and then filename
nacx12
UseTheForceLuke
YYYY-MM-DD_filename for legibility
Mish512
No dashes when the database from 1853 won't allow characters in file names
MediocreExtremist
no need for the dashes. With a little bit of exercise it is eady enough without them
GoIIum
Yeah but with the dashes it's ISO conform which is nice for nerds like myself.
ShutUpImWorking
r/SortPorn
ExecutorHideo
I sort it by hiding it in a file in my mods folder called "incompatible".
cainofdreaming
YY/M/Y/M/DD/Y
ShearWind
As someone who does this many times a day, yes.
jennym123
Lawful Evil: Have a separate column on your DB table for day, month & year.
Eleshar24
More like lawful Excel...
mjangelvortex
I sort my pictures on my home computer that way. It's honestly a great method.
PoorSucker
In the good old days YY/MM/DD was enough.
Z0op
It still is, as long as you dont have anything from the last century, that is.. just shoving that problem to next century :p
yaboiskinnypeen
Gah! Our file systems have been beaten by 200 years of history!
oopssorrywrongplanet
No kidding. This should be the format everyone uses. US format is stupid, EU is not so stupid but not as helpful. Probably should be dashes.
cyberimg
Definitely should be dashes. Or no separator. But *not* slashes, putting slashes in a filename is begging for trouble.
ToasterDent
YYMD/YM/YD
Crowscrown
How do you even sort trough files with MM/DD/YYYY?
CrazyWineLady
As a video editor, we put the date before each project file like 210222 (22 Feb 2021)
g0st
What jobs are you all doing in 2021 that require you to physically sort through files?
Tesseract09
Logs, database update scripts, etc...
RelaxYourself
Video Editor. Helpful for archiving and sharing assets with other coworkers.
GoldFrieza
Most desk jobs? We create & edit files quite often
ShadowMorph
Bah, unix timestamps all the way. That is, number of seconds since the Unix Epoch (January 1 1970 00:00:00 GMT).
viblis
As a SysAdmin, can confirm.
LisaSimps0nsDr3aM
Pro tip: In Excel always use YYYY-MM-dd as cell value so every locals formatting will be applied
celestedrake
YY_MM_DD.
RelaxYourself
Yeah that's how I write out my files for video editing.
LogarithmicRhinoceros
Yup, that’s why our filenames at work are all supposed to be: YYYYMMDD-Title-Security Classification. Not everyone follows this though.
Einherion
Yes. But the american system is just that but the year moved to the end. It's not as crazy as people make it out to be
Tesseract09
Then move it back so it makes sense
DewiMorgan
So like.... "MM-DD hh:mm:ss.mmm YYYY"? That really WOULD be crazy. But no, US format inserts it randomly in the middle, which is also crazy.
Einherion
Not even sure what you are on about other than planned obtuseness
DewiMorgan
Calling out that the claim is false: it's not "just" moved to the end, and it's exactly as crazy as people are making it out to be.
Einherion
YYYY-MM-DD vs MM-DD-YYYY. Get your eyes checked hombre
DeadeicPrints
Gross
yuppiehick
Year, month, day, hour, minute, second. It's too logical.
aslum
I like YY.MM.DD as long as you aren't dealing with files old enough to drink.
sauerteig
kebab case, if you are using the file hosting device as it is intended to.
blacksheep214
If you compare year-over-year financials then MM-YYYY is better. Puts all the same months together.
ForeheadAirport
There are dozens of us!
HFlashman
Sauroctonus
And for daily use, DD/MM/YYYY, as the most important info is the day.
NacLac
Please stop. Using the / in your filenames is giving IT a headache and locking folders.
thekeyofe
So use dashes instead of slashes (YYYY-MM-DD).
GroumphLePreux
So so true. Like commas or pipes or tabs as separators.
FritoParadise
That's why we do yyyymmdd in our office. No / in the filename
minant
IIRC that's ISO 8601-compliant, but I think using hyphens is a little easier to read.
Boksha
Things get especially bad when time is also involved. I'd much rather read 2021-02-22-17-20-53 than 20210222172053.
minant
If you're doing time as well, you probably want to switch to the stricter RFC3339 form: yyyy-mm-ddThh:mm:ss±zz .
ath1337e
I use "-", like most people, probably. You can't save most files with "/" anyway.
LurkerOfDarkness
Stop using weak programming then...
Xenarion
Yeah, yyyy-MM-dd is better.
Srcsqwrn
I use dashes or underscores if I can. Do I still die?
gljames24
No, that is preferred.
IKEjr09
This is why I use this format, 22FEB21, or 22FEB2021. Quickly and easily identifiable. No / or other characters needed.
losersmanual
But not chronological, which is important for large directories.
Johnnyflame04
/ isn't a character you can put into a file name since a path is usually separated by either a / or a >
somethingdark
I assumed that they meant a YYYY folder that contains an MM folder, that contains a DD folder since Windows accepts / for paths sometimes.
mithiwithi
Not the worst idea if you want to keep very large volumes of logs, I suppose.
GoldFrieza
Then git gud lol. If I can write code for files with "&" and "$" in the name you can handle a slash
Bukulu
Windows wont let you choose that symbol, so I cant see how that becomes an issue
OverMyDadBody
same with unix
ilovedogknots
You also can’t name a file con
DandyLion23
Did I ever tell you how I hacked Novell Netware to accept reserved filenames and became the nightmare of our university's IT department ?
PianoMan2112
Or NUL, COM1, LPT1, etc.
BerrysONTHEBush
Good ole reverse compatability
ShutUpImWorking
or aux
hadtodownvote1
You can however use ∕ which happens to look the same
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hadtodownvote1
Exactly, there's no reason for a real sysadmin to take issue with it
f3n1x187
if you go all the way to find and use that symbol just to have it your way, you deserve the sys admins taking all your privileges away.
LucasTheArchaneer
Why?
Srcsqwrn
Eeewwww
TheDayTheBrainStoodStill
It just happens to look the same to users - it's not like the computer will get confused. Unlike /, ∕ is just a regular Unicode character.
somethingdark
Although Unicode in filenames can also mess with things, so IT still has a headache.
RelaxYourself
I never put the /. That was just to type out the format here on imgur.
RememberTheC4nt
For now we believe you but the union will keep an eye on you. One more fkn around with the OS and your internet connection is gone
randelung
I've been trying to beat my office into doing this, but 2 years later I'm still the only one doing it. :(
GoldFrieza
lol. Naming conventions are 100% impossible to enforce. We had to take away folder creation ability and give them a web gui to use
Eleshar24
I am introducing one for my teams and I will fire anyone not following it.
GoldFrieza
Take away folder creation ability then you wont have too
Eleshar24
They are producing HR documents for living. We are a majour corporation, so of course you would think we have a professional 1/2
randelung
It's not just folders. Files, too. So many documents containing almost the same thing, all named the same but some with v0.1, some with date
INeedMoreGifMeMoreJustOneMore
All my files that need seperate updates are YYMMDDnameoffile. Sometimes you can even drop the DD.
ShutUpImWorking
KingXizor
Nah, separate folders for years and months, then start file names with dates like 22 Feb. 2020
Eleshar24
No! Bad doggo! Paddling!
DewiMorgan
Why? What could this possibly gain you, other than annoyance and pain?
DeadeicPrints
Thats the simplest, least annoying way to do it.
DewiMorgan
Fair. If it's what works for your workflow, then it's the Right Way. Files can always be mass-renamed for other workflows.
KingXizor
If its just for me, it helps me organize everything. I have a folder for everything and a distinct navigation tree
DewiMorgan
Well, I'm a strong believer that if a system works well for you, keep it!
DewiMorgan
(US date format and imperial measurements work poorly for everyone, however: they work "OK when not breaking stuff" at best.
KingXizor
Yeah, like I have a quotes folder. Then various years in that. In each year is a folder for each month. Files have company name.
alchaeus12
American is speech written. The rest is efficient for print. 'Oh it's 22 February 2021'. 'Oh it's February 22nd 2021' that's the entire deal
p75369
How often do you run off the entire date though? "What day is it?" "Monday" "No, date?" "22nd" "Ta".
Sm9yCg
Since when do you call your Independance Day "July fourth"?
mjangelvortex
I've seen some people call it that.
evothecat
But they say 4th of July.....
KentuckyFriedCynic
Yeah but I dont tell people 16th of October. I say October 16th.
TheVenerableJudgeTaintyMcPoo
We also say July 4th.
wookietiddy
"happy 4th of july" is like saying "merry Christmas" or "happy independence day". They're all referencing the same thing, not the date
MadHakon
I would say it is a bit like Juneteenth. It may reference a time, but it is made distinct for the reason of making it stand out.
allnamestakenzzz
The thing had to of came from somewhere. If they're referencing independence day they'd say it. But if you asked when independence day was
allnamestakenzzz
People would say 4th of July
MadHakon
Wow, languages have rules of exception for certain occasions. How insightful of you!
HiddenSanity
Here it's the standard, feels like that being the only time for the US implies that they used to do it right then changed it.
Goldensands
America. Is. Stupid. Find the exception there, please. It’s drowning in filth at present.
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MadHakon
This is the true point of the argument. It has nothing to do with language. It is just pointless vitriol. You want to talk about how (1)
MadHakon
America is just the worst place ever because of the way a date is written? I'm sure your opinions are matured with that attitude.
Gorgrim
so why not make the exception the rule, and end up with no exceptions? ;-)
HangingOnTheEdgeOfTomorrow
Because it wouldn't be English, then,would it? It'd be a language that makes sense.
MadHakon
Because the only people who care, care for silly pointless reasons that they drum up for a stupid argument
Gorgrim
why do you care about keeping the m-d-y format? Other than making the US feel special.
noctynight
That's because most Americans can't read. Source: am American.
cedarcomb
This from the country that says "Fourth Of July" all the time, mind.
MadHakon
And languages always have exceptions.
Morsalbum
ahhh, hmmm, yes, very good american
Qualtagh
That, to me, sounds more emphatic than "July fourth". It's intentional emphasis.
wookietiddy
Fourth of July is synonymous with Independence Day. Not actually referencing the day of the month, but the name of the holiday.
CorgiGrrrMan
Preface: I'm not defending our dumb date scheme, but for other dates, we do say MM/DD like "September 11th." It's like how in a lot of our
CorgiGrrrMan
Science and math professions use metric. We are just making things harder for us.
kanaroney
"It's the 22nd of February 2021" is a pretty easy thing to say.
textilelover
2 extra words. We'll pass, thanks. It's February 22nd, 2021.
kanaroney
One extra word. Two letters.
textilelover
We don't have the "the" in there. It's THE 22nd OF Feb. vs. It's Feb 22nd.
kanaroney
Fair. Still kind of a weak reason though.
TheEvilHatter
"It's July 4th"
textilelover
Fourth of July is said that was as it's a holiday and a title, not a date. If we were just talking about a date we'd say July 4th.
MadHakon
It's also a pretty easy thing not to care about how people pronounce a date.
iTakeHourLongShits
Nice ?
kanaroney
When it means I have to write the date wrong every day, it's hard to not care.
MadHakon
I mean, you can downvote me, but that doesn't disprove my argument. You're going to downvote the purpose of language?
kanaroney
I didn't downvote you.
MadHakon
There is no right or wrong way. The right way is to understand the situation and communicate effectively. That is the purpose of language
kanaroney
Fine, not wrong, let's say nonsensical. Or crazy. Or stupid. Pick whichever word you prefer, you know exactly what I meant.
AwesomeDutchy
There is however a right way to say worcestershire
Noroelle
Aber es ist der 22. Februar 2021 und macht Sinn in Deutsch !!!!
sicca3
It really debends on language. In Norwegian: det er den 22. Februar 2021
rbudrick
Americans use both in certain context but saying "February 22nd" is less syllables than than saying "the 22nd of February."
ForeheadAirport
Now, there will be 6th of January.
ilsalta
It blows my mind how backwards Americans can be. Wierd dates. Imperial units. Then again half the country wants to be nazi Germany so...
ilsalta
Ouch. Apparently Americans don’t like being slapped in the face with reality.
SlyeFox
US Customary Units, not Imperial.
CassandraCat
Hm weird, I feel like saying 22nd of february is more organic and natural than the other way round... written maybe? But spoken? :/
textilelover
That way takes extra words. It's February 22nd vs. It's the 22nd of February.
CassandraCat
I think it's a non-native speaker thing, cuz in german f.e. We also say "22. (Zweiundzwanzigster) Februar " so NNS would find that pleasing
anitabieror6
its that "of" we don't like. it's shorter to say february 22nd than it is to say 22nd of february
LeftenantSebastian
I have to pause to get that “of” in “22nd of February” in there, even in my head.
LadiesInboxMeYourInsecurities
So just... 22nd February? That sounds so... wrong to me speech wise. It lacks showing possession that it's the 22nd day in February and→
LadiesInboxMeYourInsecurities
Sounds more like the 22nd February of your life...
VagisilToothpaste
It's just a difference in what you're used to. Like English people call fries chips, and chips crisps. Seems weird to me, but not to them.
sudokori
Because chips are wide and flat. Fries are not wide and flat
LoPan
I agree, but it's annoying when everyone gives you shit about it, nobody makes comics freaking out over the word chips like they do dates
VagisilToothpaste
Frankly, as a US citizen - I'm just tired of being the brunt of like everyone's jokes and annoyances. It's not funny any more.
LoPan
agree, plus we are a young nation, a product of the world. aka, we learned it by watching you!
dockerexe
30% of imgur is American, even your own people are partaking in self-deprecation. Also can you really blame us? every week its something new
MadHakon
And then everyone piles in acting like we are all programmers that need to code something efficiently. Today is 02/22/2021! Deal with it
gamejeepboi
No, today is 1614009961! Deal with it!
MadHakon
A random string of numbers that have no frame of reference anyone else understands.
RickRollable
Unix timestamp. Recognised by geeks worldwide in fact
MadHakon
If you gave that string of numbers to such a geek they would not know it was a date unless you gave some context. That is why it is (1)
uzerok
That would explain why I see the use of "would of" instead of "would have" so often in the recent times.
GunnersMateFirstClassPhillipAsshole
Well, that's people not understanding "would've" is a contraction. American education is bad enough, yet many barely retain anything
TuppenceWoofer
One I’ve noticed is people saying ‘Aksed’ instead of ‘Asked’
MadHakon
A distinction of little importance. Languages change -- if they didn't English would look like Dutch. Do you really want that?
uzerok
Sure, spoken language changes over time. But in this particular case where a preposition is changed into a verb only for that context?
MadHakon
There are plenty of examples of when a noun becomes a verb, examples that were once unusual and unorthodox. That people might interchange
MadHakon
of in place of have isn't particularly unique as far as language development goes. A common example of how mispoken sounds eventually
Talligan
They say 22nd February here in UK. Confusing af when I first moved here
TheS4ndm4n
This is like the 2067th February.
otiumCatulli
Amazes me that "half 5" confuses Americans. They're like "is that 10:05 yehaww" or something like that
jahondabeat420
secretdpp
Well we add the context clue of Half Past #
VenderTrashImgur
Half five would be 2.5 right?
Talligan
Is it half to 5 or half past 5? It's ambiguous
otiumCatulli
Half past 5 :)
LuckyLemming
Half 5 is 5:30. We don't do " half to", if it's 4:35, we say "25 to 6"
OwlThread
well now I'm confused, other commenters are saying it's "half to" and 4:30
alchaeus12
What's half five refer to? Not at all something said in US
otiumCatulli
Exactly! I have to catch myself when talking to American colleagues, not to arrange meetings for "half X".
RotundYoshi
Half past five, or five-thirty.
Dreigiau
So it's not half til five (4:30)? Isn't that what the phrase means in continental Europe - or, at least, Belgium?
princessperona
I'm surprised. In Sweden half five would mean 16:30. Were do you come from?
alchaeus12
Gotcha! All it read to me was 2.5? Lol thanks
MsPrimfield
It’s actually 4:30/16:30 (half past four). Source: I’m Dutch and we literally always say the time like this
Livlalala
‘Oh it’s the twenty second of February’ says everyone in the UK.
peeeopeepeee
See, I never know what day it is, so I use the month as a buffer while I remember what the individual day is
DonRanchero
All that extra time spent using that "of" cost them all of their colonies
micuu
Spoken like someone who can't spell 'colour' properly.
kuriosly
'U's are a valuable and limited resource. Don't go wasting them with your misspellings!
thegregorious
Cost them all their colonies*
drizztx
Nobody here has time for your extra "of". ;)
ahnteis
We're probably just needing to know the month more than the day. It all blurs together! :P
alchaeus12
Yeah. It'd be acceptable stateside verbally as well. But not as common.
LoPan
We're not in the UK so we write it like we say it where we live
Chimwizlet
Or you say it that way because it's how you write it.
echonite
More likely the former.