Take these with some skepticism. You'll find different numbers on their respective wikis. For example, the Stargate SG1 ship Daedalus is not 550 meters, but closer to 200. According to the Homeworld booklet, the Mothership is closer to 35km tall.
From playing Elite Dangerous, and considering the size of the coriolis stations it is obvious to me that the size of things in space is betrayed by the inability of the human brain to visualise detail at scale.
No Death Star? Surely that's bigger than most of these ships. And before anyone says "it's a space station", Babylon 5 is a space station and it's on there.
Yes but the volume of the inside is indeterminate as it's folded into multiple higher dimensions and is canonically variable since spaces can be added or eliminated as needed. In fact, the interior it may be more like data storage space than physical volume.
I suspect these aren't to relative scale. Most of the Halo ships (the only franchise here I have extensive knowledge of) could not Dock at Anchor 9 on the scale shown, for example.
apparently the station is about 700 something meters wide. anchor 9 seems to be tiny in comparisson to other halo relevant things, like the unsc infinity with something like 5700 meters length
I'm a pedant and an OG Bungie fan boy admittedly, so I tend not to take anything of 343's as Canon. But also in fairness the main thing that made the Infinity special WAS that it was the largest ship humanity had ever made. UNSC ships tend to be on the smaller side in the grand scale of the wider Sci-Fi pool. Nearly 6 kilometres is HUGE when you consider that the Iroquois (Keyes' most famous pre PoA ship) was only around 500 metres.
I give the Infinity a slight pass due it being built as a last ditch generational ship meant to help Humanity flee its inevitable defeat. I just wish it wasn't so smoothed out and kept the Aliens aesthetic the Bungie games had. That being said its about time the UNSC has a ship sporting Super MACs instead of them being exclusively for orbital stations.
while the frigates are around 400-600 meters in length, starting with the cruisers you have multiple ships with a length of 1km or more. that might still be small compared to other sci fi, but anchor 9 is still tiny compared to a lot of halo ships
For comparison: the UNSC Savannah was roughly 500m, and we see in LNoS that it's almost as long as A9, and is slightly longer than A9 is wide. As far as height, A9 is like, almost triple Savannah. All checks out for what is meant to be a repair and refit orbital station. Just doesn’t quite match up to the figures shown in the above diagrams, is all I'm getting at
i was more about actual size and not just this comparisson picture. where is anchor 9 in these pictures? i find the ships in the different pictures, but it seems like im too blind to find the station :D
Maybe not. At the end of Ringworld's Children, the Ringworld jumps into hyperspace and leaves the war for its control behind and, more importantly, all of Known Space. It can be driven from one place to another, that meets the definition of a vessel in my opinion.
Every space station or megastructure needs to be able to navigate to some degree. As "stationary" doesn't exist in space. Many fictional space stations (famously the Death Star too) can travel.
Exactly. Just because it's the size of a moon - or in the case of the Ringworld, a few million planets - doesn't mean it isn't a vehicle. It can be directed, steered.
Now that I think of it, I wonder if (if they were all still present) the rim wall attitude jets would be sufficient to move the ringworld in flat space? It make take bobbing up and down around its star a few times, but I bet it could be popped loose and flown that way.
Orbitals and ringworlds, i would say, are a different category, just like space stations and space ships are different categories. One might call them megastructures or something.
But you have a point. These pictures are not at all curated in what is featured. If there was a 17th century sailing ship on it, i wouldn't be surprised.
Part of that is also going to depend on our definition. Gundam space colonies very famously move when desired even though they're designed to be parked at a Lagrange point.
SalmySwims
#6 Where the hell is the SR1?
Carchomatic
Take these with some skepticism. You'll find different numbers on their respective wikis. For example, the Stargate SG1 ship Daedalus is not 550 meters, but closer to 200. According to the Homeworld booklet, the Mothership is closer to 35km tall.
4t0m1c4
From playing Elite Dangerous, and considering the size of the coriolis stations it is obvious to me that the size of things in space is betrayed by the inability of the human brain to visualise detail at scale.
JaceArveduin
The Avatar, Erebus, Leviathan, and Ragnarok are pretty easy to spot, lmao. Not enough pixels to tell if there are any other EVE warships on there.
FoxPesdassi
In case you'd like a more up-close, detailed view: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw6qppma02s
ruokanga
Space shuttle isn’t SciFi, earth is not flat.
Can’t read shit.
GhostBear3067
I like seeing Battletech getting some representation in #2.
KremlinOfAges
EVE for me!
nopo
Huh. Moya is a lot bigger than I thought...
Moriarte
No Death Star? Surely that's bigger than most of these ships.
And before anyone says "it's a space station", Babylon 5 is a space station and it's on there.
mariospeedwagons
https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTY1YjkxZmJlMW1ncjRwMzBuaW83NnMwcGkyeTB4OGNqODRzemp0ODk3YWpycm1keSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/ALtzQ6CHfC7vO5nRz7/giphy.mp4
SmartAssWithAKeyboard
Can I just say that I absolutely loath the Enterprise from the Kelvin timeline.
STTM Enterprise is Best Enterprise. Cleanest lines, beautiful ship.
Mogwaiys
Possible source for anyone interested "moreorlesser" on DeviantArt: https://www.deviantart.com/moreorlesser/
WoofWoof21
I found my baby on page #3 #6 and #7
rimmeryouaresuchasmeghead
Mah pixels 🥺
Pulsahr
Yep, I tried to zoom in to look for specific ships, but nah, everything is blurry, these photos are a in terrible quality.
OnomatopoeicOnanisma
First group appears to be DA@Moreorlesser https://www.deviantart.com/moreorlesser/gallery
Second group appears to be DA@EmperorBatman
https://www.deviantart.com/emperorbatman/gallery
CardeasIV
Cant see shit tho
Frostedjakes
It bothers me that the shuttle is shown as being the USCSS Nostromo
SandyTentaclez
You think Warhammer is compensating for something?
MoopsyLD
you posted the shitiest pixelated version. congratz
KingMCG
Or you have the Golden Ship from Cordwainer Smith’s Instrumentality series…it was 90 million miles long (and made of foam and wire…mostly.)
Used to scare off an alien invasion in the distant past, but resurrected to stop Raumsog’s piracy. The story is : “The Golden Ship was Oh! Oh! Oh!”
EggFooYung
Or the Atlas-class Deucalion from Kiddy/Grade a 37000km and large enough to store a planet for transport.
Thissideupusenohooks
Putting the Tardis in the small category might be seen as problematic. Sure, it’s tiny in the outside…
mondeca
The charts are only comparing outsides of all the ships
EggFooYung
Yes but the volume of the inside is indeterminate as it's folded into multiple higher dimensions and is canonically variable since spaces can be added or eliminated as needed. In fact, the interior it may be more like data storage space than physical volume.
dadwithtowel
Abramsverse USS Enterprise looks like someone asked, ‘What if Starfleet designed ships using Michael Bay’s laptop?
ToSisPoS
I felt it looked like a ship that actually needed the crew that was on it, as opposed to two people who could steer the whole thing from one desk.
MaverickTitan
I always thought it looked like something designed by MATTEL.
mizzamir
It's usually referred to as the Kelvin timeline
AlmightyElephant
I suspect these aren't to relative scale. Most of the Halo ships (the only franchise here I have extensive knowledge of) could not Dock at Anchor 9 on the scale shown, for example.
Sharkuu
apparently the station is about 700 something meters wide. anchor 9 seems to be tiny in comparisson to other halo relevant things, like the unsc infinity with something like 5700 meters length
AlmightyElephant
I'm a pedant and an OG Bungie fan boy admittedly, so I tend not to take anything of 343's as Canon. But also in fairness the main thing that made the Infinity special WAS that it was the largest ship humanity had ever made. UNSC ships tend to be on the smaller side in the grand scale of the wider Sci-Fi pool. Nearly 6 kilometres is HUGE when you consider that the Iroquois (Keyes' most famous pre PoA ship) was only around 500 metres.
hairytrigga
I give the Infinity a slight pass due it being built as a last ditch generational ship meant to help Humanity flee its inevitable defeat. I just wish it wasn't so smoothed out and kept the Aliens aesthetic the Bungie games had. That being said its about time the UNSC has a ship sporting Super MACs instead of them being exclusively for orbital stations.
Sharkuu
while the frigates are around 400-600 meters in length, starting with the cruisers you have multiple ships with a length of 1km or more. that might still be small compared to other sci fi, but anchor 9 is still tiny compared to a lot of halo ships
AlmightyElephant
For comparison: the UNSC Savannah was roughly 500m, and we see in LNoS that it's almost as long as A9, and is slightly longer than A9 is wide. As far as height, A9 is like, almost triple Savannah.
All checks out for what is meant to be a repair and refit orbital station.
Just doesn’t quite match up to the figures shown in the above diagrams, is all I'm getting at
Sharkuu
i was more about actual size and not just this comparisson picture. where is anchor 9 in these pictures? i find the ships in the different pictures, but it seems like im too blind to find the station :D
DoseOfScience
And then there's the Niven Ringworld.
valen00
It's actually in all of these images, to scale. The images were just cropped
Fentex
You could only show an edge of Ringworld poking in on any of these scales.
mercyPandaRunner
Yeah, but that's a ringworld. Arguably the wrong category here.
elhigh
Maybe not. At the end of Ringworld's Children, the Ringworld jumps into hyperspace and leaves the war for its control behind and, more importantly, all of Known Space. It can be driven from one place to another, that meets the definition of a vessel in my opinion.
mercyPandaRunner
Every space station or megastructure needs to be able to navigate to some degree. As "stationary" doesn't exist in space. Many fictional space stations (famously the Death Star too) can travel.
elhigh
Exactly. Just because it's the size of a moon - or in the case of the Ringworld, a few million planets - doesn't mean it isn't a vehicle. It can be directed, steered.
Now that I think of it, I wonder if (if they were all still present) the rim wall attitude jets would be sufficient to move the ringworld in flat space? It make take bobbing up and down around its star a few times, but I bet it could be popped loose and flown that way.
DoseOfScience
There's various space stations in the first image, what is a ringworld but a space station that is very big?
mercyPandaRunner
Orbitals and ringworlds, i would say, are a different category, just like space stations and space ships are different categories. One might call them megastructures or something.
But you have a point. These pictures are not at all curated in what is featured. If there was a 17th century sailing ship on it, i wouldn't be surprised.
But an orbital simply wouldn't fit.
DoseOfScience
Part of that is also going to depend on our definition. Gundam space colonies very famously move when desired even though they're designed to be parked at a Lagrange point.