She also forgets that men sleeping around can infect women with HPV. She just instantly asumes it must be only the fault of the women. What a dick-move!
Right ...male Doctors, the same ones who refused to admit the Clit even existed for a few centuries in medical texts. The ones who can't understand a woman's specific medical issues at times because they can't relate.
It's good we actually have female doctors, there are entire medical texts that were written because they wouldn't delve into medical issues women did suffer but weren't believed.
Also the guy who posted the news story is also a massive bigot that posted CP, got banned for it, and the got unbanned by Muskrat personally. In case you wanted to know just how much of a hell-fuck nightmare site twitter is nowadays.
Dom Lucre is a fucking right wing grifting cunt, and alleged pedo. So I'm surprised he tweeted that, because all vax are Satanic. Pearl Davis isn't any better either.
That headlines doesn't deserve any attention to begin with, legitimate or trolling. It's not "breaking news" that something could, maybe, potentially, in time, someday, cure a disease
Imagine being mad that we figured out how to cure ovarian cancer! We live in a society that produces fucking magic and these dickheads treat it like an inconvenience.
My male gyno was totally shocked that I could feel him poking around inside my cervix during an endo scrape. Now look up how IUD's are placed (they hold the cervix with a pair of tongs that look more like a stapler puller).
This op is constantly giving trolls the attention they want and then posting it on Imgur. This one, though, is a particularly funny self-own for the Twitter troll.
But... if she is a professional troll... what if she trolls things that should be made bigger. Like the vaccine. Let us remember the stupid people that exist. So blinded by hate a bigotry, they will believe things like ovarion cancer only comes from sleeping around. They will follow her to make fun of the same things she does. But that means they will also see the thing she is making fun of and it will get bigger and doo good things.
I’d agree with you if they were trolls in positions of power. This is just a crazy lady standing on the proverbial corner of the internet screaming crazy shit. You ignore those people.
Yes and no, she's relatively unknown to normal people but does have a following in the right wing online manosphere, she up there with the Andrew Tate douchebags or that female Ben Shapiro clone whose name I can't remember. They get platformed by rightwing money/outlets so sadly have more reach than they have any right to
"How dare these people not be punished for arbitrary bullshit reasons? It's not fair! We must remove all the safety nets in our society and replace them with sharp spikes this instant! If someone isn't suffering, I can't sleep at night."
Because we all know that cancer is caused directly by the patient /s. All those with pancreatic cancer clearly tampered with their pancreas too much. Breast cancer is obviously a result of too much fondling. Stomach cancer is from too much eating. I can go on because being stupid is easy
Gastric cancer and obesity are linked. As are cervical cancer and anal cancer and mouth cancer through HPV. Both of these can be prevented, through diet, or vaccination.
You think a vaccine is gonna wipe out the disease? Motherfucker, we have antivaxers bringing back previously almost wiped out disease because they want to feel like they're smarter than people who have devoted their lives to legitimate infectious disease research. We aren't wiping anything out until we wipe out the everyday acceptance of extreme fucking stupidity.
Fortunately, very few cancers are communicable, so people who get the vaccinations will be protected. And people who are medically eligible but don't get vaccinated deserve cancer.
There's a lot of proof of a connection between HPV and cervical cancer, which is definitely communicable, so certainly applies if this is explicitly that one.
True, that's one of the few potentially communicable cancers. The meme is talking about ovarian cancer, and that is probably unrelated to HPV. And I can't think of any other human cancers that are generally communicable.
My point was that in the case of a cancer vaccine, we don't need to achieve herd immunity to protect young & immunocompromised members of the community, because that's not how cancer spreads. In the specific case of HPV, yes, one should get the vaccine before being sexually
Christofascist misogynist myth often holds that diseases of a reproductive nature are consequences of a sexually sinful lifestyle. Like AIDS being God's punishment for homosexuality, they've now decided that ovarian cancer is a consequence of promiscuity in women.
Goes hand-in-hand with the antivax delusion. Basically, your body does good things if you're good, and does bad things, like contracting illnesses, if you're bad. So sick people deserve it, and the cure is conformity to the cult.
Human Papillomavirus is one of the most common forms of sexually transmitted diseases. It has very subtle or sometimes no symptoms. It also leads to a very large increase in potential cancer in the uterus or throat.
Yeah but it doesn't cause ovarian cancer. I can see how that's a source of confusion but it doesn't excuse this asshat for shaming promiscuity or for assuming only men are doctors. Besides, HPV vaccine has been around for years and everyone, boys and girls, active or not, should get it. (I haven't, but I'm in my 40s. I suppose I should ask my doctor.)
I expect to hear this dumb shit out of a conservative man, but when it comes from someone I presume has a vagina, it enrages me. But shes a rage bait troll so.
Fuckin traitor. I genuinely can’t feel sympathy for people like that when they come out and are like “oh the lifestyle I was trying to force on people was super abusive to me.” Good. Hope it sucks forever after you tried to ruin all of our lives. Hope the paycheck was worth it to throw us all under the bus.
The anti trans propaganda isn't working because there aren't enough trans people... So the propaganda switched to "man Vs woman reeee" several months ago. This is some of the worst of it.
Man vs. woman propaganda is a constant that merely comes in and out of mainstream focus. Pearl's entire shtick is being a pretty white woman face of neo-fascist misogyny. She exists to validate the hatred guys like Andrew Tate have for women and not-men.
100% but ovarian cancer can be caused by HPV and even though some estimates are that 90% of men and 80% of woken will get it no matter what some weird people link it exclusively to promiscuity. They are ghouls. All current republican identifying people are ghouls
um, my pastor told me that ovarian cancer is caused by god being angry at slutty women. Its kind of like how if I talk about what happens in the church basement with the youth group god will be angry.
Promiscuity does increase your risk of contracting HPV strains 16 & 18, which are associated with increased risk of ovarian cancer. Hence why pap smears are done and performed more frequently for women who have multiple partners. Anytime you increase your sexual partners you increase the risk of disease. Same with men. It's just that cancerous HPV is mostly symptomatic in women.
Long time lurker here but had to actually make an account just to reply to this- HPV strains 16, 18 (and 41) increase the risk of CERVICAL cancer, not OVARIAN cancer. Those are 2 different parts of the female reproductive system and made up of very different cell types. Pap smears CANNOT detect ovarian cancer- only cervical cancer. Increased frequency of pap smears will not decrease your risk of ovarian cancer.
Perhaps they are confusing this with cervical cancer which is usually caused by one of a few strains of Human Papilloma Virus, a sexually transmitted disease. The Gardasil vaccine has been highly effective at preventing this when administered to children starting around age 12, ideally before they become sexually active.
Even then it is a little ridiculous. A woman who has sex with no one but her husband her entire life could still get HPV from her husband if he slept with someone before or during their marriage. It's not like only women can get it or transmit it...
In case anybody missed it, they've opened the HPV vaccine recommendations to include significantly more people over the past several years. If you've never had it, talk with your doctor.
For what it's worth, I'm in the US and the HPV vaccine is 100% covered by my health insurance. Several years ago when Rick Perry was running for president one of his opponents tried to hit him on "encouraging promiscuity" for implementing a state program on the HPV vaccine, and he simply responded "the state of Texas is opposed to cancer".
There’s a nonzero chance that commenter is a Russian or Chinese misinformation/troll bot. Twitter was a cesspool of them before Leon Stinkoman bought it, but his control has definitely made things worse.
Unnnnfortunately. That's not a bot. That's a right wing misogyny influencer. Does she take money from a foreign power? Maybe. But that's not why she started. She started because she's a piece of shit loser. And age still is one today.
The idiot in the post thinks that ovarian cancer is caused by the Pavlova virus, and that Pavlova virus is exclusively transmitted through sex, and presumably that you can't get it from your husband either.
Lol, it isn't the virus named after the 1920s Russian ballet superstar, but the 'papillomavirus' I think you're talking about. No biggie. You made good points.
"what you WHOREDIOTS don't seem to UNDERSTAND, is that I don't UNDERSTAND, how any of it WORKS! But I love GOD more than getting my flower DESECRATED, and my continued virginity is by CHOICE!" *quiet sob* - H Pearl whatever, probably
I know it was just a little typo on your part, but I'm currently watching reruns of the Great British Bake-Off, and your post made me laugh. (Pavlovas are a cake-like dessert made with meringue.)
Dammit, I googled it to check and it autofilled with that, so that's what I put. Papilloma* virus. Also, be careful of the baked goods you put in your mouth, that creme filling could go bad.
Ovarian cancer can be cause by PCOS, so no it is not just caused by HPV. Afaik any replicating cell in the body has the ability to mutate into a cancerous cell.
I gotta assume we're not talking about HPV since that vaccine has been out for a while. But if they're preventing cancer that isn't related to SOME virus with a vaccine, then my understanding of vaccines is much too narrow
STIs don't cause cancer... Viruses don't cause cancer... Bacteria don't cause cancer... Cancer is your own cells messing up during the duplication process and making a bad set of copies that then continue to make bad copies. I teach this over simplification to my middle school students when we study the micro biome. This is not new knowledge. God damnit!
The human papilloma virus (HPV) can and does cause cervical, anal, and rarely throat cancers. HPV is, I believe, classified as an STI, despite the fact that sexual contact is not necessary to contract it.
You proved my point, commonly caused and exclusively caused are not the same thing. My point is people assume it's from one thing and you must've done that for it
More accurately it would be like saying "only smokers develop myeloid leukemia". Smoking increases the risk, but genetics and age are much bigger factors.
“These bad behaving have been punished by GOD” is their entire world view. That’s it, that’s the scope. Their own success with e comic growth/health/fitness/etc is seen as their reward for being “good”
“Traditional” meaning “God told some dudes thousands of years ago that the natural sexual state of humans is morally wrong” even though just like Bonobos do now, we also use sexual behavior to reinforce social bonds, which in turn stabilizes our species society.
Religious principles were almost always a solution for an actual societal issue. I wonder if monogamy was their way of attempting to reduce the prevalence of STI's? Consider that the crowd they were pitching Christianity to were Romans.
Maybe that, and maybe also trying to reduce the number of single mothers, since society denied women any agency and granted them very little means of earning money
The biggest risk factors for ovarian cancer are generic.
There's no known link to any infections of any kind whatsoever, security transmitted or otherwise. The vaccine works by teaching the immune system to attack the cancerous cells as soon as they form.
Actually not true! Cancer vaccines are a thing. As in, they don't protect you from a virus, they boost your immune system against cancer-specific antigens. Still in early stages of development though.
Sorry, didn't see the notification! I had to look something up because the way I know about it is I used to be in research and the neighbor lab was doing cancer vaccine research. But I found a review on pubmed that talks about peptide-based cancer vaccines but there are other kinds like mRNA. If you type in cancer vaccine in pubmed you'll find more. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37654484/
TL/DR is cancer cells often start making proteins that are unique and don't occur outside of cancer so you can develop a vaccine to get your immune system to recognize those and kill any cell that has it.
blubberingbastard
HelikaformerNubisKnight9
She also forgets that men sleeping around can infect women with HPV. She just instantly asumes it must be only the fault of the women. What a dick-move!
Masterbox
ovarian cancer is not caused by sleeping around...
DameDePiques
What do you know, are you a doctor? Even if you are, let me tell you that I have done my own research, soooo...
DrMissAnonymous
Having sex gives you cancer
VictusVonGuyver
Right ...male Doctors, the same ones who refused to admit the Clit even existed for a few centuries in medical texts. The ones who can't understand a woman's specific medical issues at times because they can't relate.
It's good we actually have female doctors, there are entire medical texts that were written because they wouldn't delve into medical issues women did suffer but weren't believed.
technofiend
Let's keep going on HPV vaccines: the current ones only cover a few of the najor strains. Keep going! Get them all!
MeowMachine12
Yep. I got the shots as a teen. I got a rare aggressive version that wasn't covered. Go figure. Luckily I've been cancer free for 2 years.
technofiend
graehall
Don't make me tap the sign @OP
drduffer
The very picture of Toxic Femininity.
This is a sick person. How can she be helped?
donpat
Fuck that useless pick me cunt.
TarynnosaurusRex
TIL cancer is caused by sleeping around. Stay awoke y'all.
BlastFX
I mean, it can be. HPV can cause cervical cancer and the more you sleep around, the more likely you are to contract HPV.
Amousewithchees
Setting aside the b****'s salt, the subject matter is a great step of hope for women.
SpaceMarineWithAnUrgeToPurge
Also the guy who posted the news story is also a massive bigot that posted CP, got banned for it, and the got unbanned by Muskrat personally. In case you wanted to know just how much of a hell-fuck nightmare site twitter is nowadays.
ShadeMeadowsArt
Sleepin' 'round... causes cancer.
...okay?
manulofdoom
"The leopards? MY face?!"
Nivvi
Dom Lucre is a fucking right wing grifting cunt, and alleged pedo. So I'm surprised he tweeted that, because all vax are Satanic. Pearl Davis isn't any better either.
FelixGoldenrod
That headlines doesn't deserve any attention to begin with, legitimate or trolling. It's not "breaking news" that something could, maybe, potentially, in time, someday, cure a disease
WeaponizedJerk
Why the fuck would you even say that? What the fuck is wrong with that person??
Hekatombe
PerkyPervertedPet
Cool song and all. But why should I support people who are doing better than me? Shouldn't they support me?
sleeperkid
She seems nice.
Hekatombe
https://youtu.be/iUFEhqn810M
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
TiredBanana
Who is she?
TiredBanana
Nevermind, i saw the link. She seems cool.
skipweasel
Pearl Davis is an anagram of "Viper Salad"
tiptoeingthru
And here I am, thinking it's code for "raging misogynist cunt"
skipweasel
Your decoding skills are clearly more perceptive than mine.
PlayerBhatin
Wasn't that an item in fallout?
PTFCMcGee
Arguably the worst kind of salad.
gradeD
MyRespectableAlterEgo
I dunno man - I've seen people do some seriously fucked up shit with couscous. At least you know where you stand with a viper.
CrabbyBlueberry
Jeremy Irons is an anagram for Rims Enjoyer. Take that, Lisa Simpson.
TruckStopRats
And you know what skipweasel is an anagram for?
skipweasel
As an occasional plumber I prefer "Wipes Leaks".
MirroredImage
Truckstoprats is an anagram for Sack Spurt Trot
Bunnies007
Weaselskip?
janeQdoe
I think it's amazing people's brains can make anagrams. I just see P***l D***s. Good for you for having a good working brain!
skipweasel
I can do them on paper, but not fast enough to keep up with usersub, so I cheat. https://wordsmith.org/anagram/
SilverNicktail
Imagine being mad that we figured out how to cure ovarian cancer! We live in a society that produces fucking magic and these dickheads treat it like an inconvenience.
gearsmith
And here I am just happy that we're on the way to wiping out a type of cancer.
BoogerPicnic
Good ol' Pick Me Pearl, she never fails to disappoint.
lickahippy4fun
My male gyno was totally shocked that I could feel him poking around inside my cervix during an endo scrape. Now look up how IUD's are placed (they hold the cervix with a pair of tongs that look more like a stapler puller).
DumpsterSauce
TalkingSnake
Hannah is a professional troll. Ignoring her is the best punishment.
wakawacawakawaca
yep

Rink257
Or does she believe what she says and she is just a popular ass hole?
ilovetraveler
Pretty sure she just wants money and power. She said she wouldn't date any of her followers.
ThatOtherMacAvoyWoman
This op is constantly giving trolls the attention they want and then posting it on Imgur. This one, though, is a particularly funny self-own for the Twitter troll.
kaarbaakimgr
He just offers it up…imgurians sent it to the front page
pangalgargblast
downvoting these will get them deleted I suspect
AllMaktAtTengilVarBefriare
I mean trolls can’t really self-own, they don’t believe in what they're saying, they just say stuff to make people mad, that's it.
DarkBusterBaron
And they need to be banned for spreading misinformation or harmful ideologies.
AllMaktAtTengilVarBefriare
You can't ban trolls, all their accounts are throw-aways, they'll just make a new account again and again when banned.
Youhavinagiraffe
She's the woman that guys are talking about when they say "I can't be sexist, one of my friends is a woman"
Swinkerton
Rink257
But... if she is a professional troll... what if she trolls things that should be made bigger. Like the vaccine.
Let us remember the stupid people that exist. So blinded by hate a bigotry, they will believe things like ovarion cancer only comes from sleeping around.
They will follow her to make fun of the same things she does. But that means they will also see the thing she is making fun of and it will get bigger and doo good things.
jrntn
Ignoring them doesn't make them go away, it just leaves their bullshit standing uncontested.
ThatOtherMacAvoyWoman
I’d agree with you if they were trolls in positions of power. This is just a crazy lady standing on the proverbial corner of the internet screaming crazy shit. You ignore those people.
CatShadowleaf
They can be given power. Look at Laura Loomer.
jrntn
No, you do not. She's already reaching the people she wants to reach. The people who think as she does. By pretending she doesn't exist, you help her.
TalkingSnake
"isn't it crazy that I said that?" Is her literal product.
Kungfuandtitties
Yes and no, she's relatively unknown to normal people but does have a following in the right wing online manosphere, she up there with the Andrew Tate douchebags or that female Ben Shapiro clone whose name I can't remember. They get platformed by rightwing money/outlets so sadly have more reach than they have any right to
ThePunneryOfficer
Don't forget plenty of them were recently revealed to have literally been funded by Russian propaganda groups
ApothecaryGrant
"How dare these people not be punished for arbitrary bullshit reasons? It's not fair! We must remove all the safety nets in our society and replace them with sharp spikes this instant! If someone isn't suffering, I can't sleep at night."
UsernameMayBeSubjectToChange
Ah, I see you have the republican vision figured out
Bunnies007
That's pretty much the Republican manifesto!
Affray
It's not enough for me to win, others must lose.
meganical
Because we all know that cancer is caused directly by the patient /s. All those with pancreatic cancer clearly tampered with their pancreas too much. Breast cancer is obviously a result of too much fondling. Stomach cancer is from too much eating. I can go on because being stupid is easy
SithElephant
Gastric cancer and obesity are linked. As are cervical cancer and anal cancer and mouth cancer through HPV. Both of these can be prevented, through diet, or vaccination.
SithElephant
Or barrier or condoms in the latter case too of course.
ItHappenedInThe20thCentury
I notice ovarian cancer is not on that list. Thank goodness, because I don't want to imagine how you'd get the HPV up there. 0__0
Psionickitten
You think a vaccine is gonna wipe out the disease? Motherfucker, we have antivaxers bringing back previously almost wiped out disease because they want to feel like they're smarter than people who have devoted their lives to legitimate infectious disease research. We aren't wiping anything out until we wipe out the everyday acceptance of extreme fucking stupidity.
ThrowingSchadenfreude
Fortunately, very few cancers are communicable, so people who get the vaccinations will be protected. And people who are medically eligible but don't get vaccinated deserve cancer.
Psionickitten
There's a lot of proof of a connection between HPV and cervical cancer, which is definitely communicable, so certainly applies if this is explicitly that one.
ThrowingSchadenfreude
True, that's one of the few potentially communicable cancers. The meme is talking about ovarian cancer, and that is probably unrelated to HPV. And I can't think of any other human cancers that are generally communicable.
My point was that in the case of a cancer vaccine, we don't need to achieve herd immunity to protect young & immunocompromised members of the community, because that's not how cancer spreads. In the specific case of HPV, yes, one should get the vaccine before being sexually
ThrowingSchadenfreude
active. And if one cannot get the vaccine for medical reasons, one should take extra precautions to avoid STIs.
DocFunkenstein
I just... I... wait what.... but wtf does that have to do with... I just....... what?
CyanideBreathMint
Basic bitch styled point whoring, nothing more.
Geo80
Religion
TinyLiehon
God sends cancer to the daughters of the painted whores of Babylon /s
wobblecopterrrr
[jd vance has entered the chat]
Aurentis
Christofascist misogynist myth often holds that diseases of a reproductive nature are consequences of a sexually sinful lifestyle.
Like AIDS being God's punishment for homosexuality, they've now decided that ovarian cancer is a consequence of promiscuity in women.
Goes hand-in-hand with the antivax delusion. Basically, your body does good things if you're good, and does bad things, like contracting illnesses, if you're bad. So sick people deserve it, and the cure is conformity to the cult.
PorterPickUp
Human Papillomavirus is one of the most common forms of sexually transmitted diseases. It has very subtle or sometimes no symptoms. It also leads to a very large increase in potential cancer in the uterus or throat.
Imissmylurk
HPV typically causes types of cervical or vaginal cancer, not uterine or ovarian.
CrabbyBlueberry
Yeah but it doesn't cause ovarian cancer. I can see how that's a source of confusion but it doesn't excuse this asshat for shaming promiscuity or for assuming only men are doctors. Besides, HPV vaccine has been around for years and everyone, boys and girls, active or not, should get it. (I haven't, but I'm in my 40s. I suppose I should ask my doctor.)
PorterPickUp
Not 100% sure on Ovarian. There have been some studies showing slight linkage but they are generally calling for additional study to confirm or invalidate the potential connection: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1567134821003841
LowenCartigo
Your name makes it even funnier , well done
afterdarkart
As a man, I can ONLY assume 'God is punishing you with cancer for 'sleeping around''
JemIsTrulyOutrageous
I expect to hear this dumb shit out of a conservative man, but when it comes from someone I presume has a vagina, it enrages me. But shes a rage bait troll so.
beeeeeeerkaaaaa
Oh no. She's popular. Pick me Pearl. Andrew tate thoughts with a vagina.
Cinneh
Fuckin traitor. I genuinely can’t feel sympathy for people like that when they come out and are like “oh the lifestyle I was trying to force on people was super abusive to me.” Good. Hope it sucks forever after you tried to ruin all of our lives. Hope the paycheck was worth it to throw us all under the bus.
beeeeeeerkaaaaa
I'm not a traitor, to be clear. Pearl is fucking awful .
Cinneh
Oh yeah I didn’t mean you or anything. Sorry if it came off that way. 🫂🫂
SmashySashimi
Right? It took me awhile to twist my brain around to what she was saying.
nanamonster
I know. I had to drop my phone to do a double gave palm, and that's before reading the fact it was a girl saying that.
SilentScreamsX
Don't try to find sense here. That well is dry.
JonnyTightlips
Dryer than Ben Shapiro's wife
2hands
top comment right here
deetatron
TheDogEnd
I may be wrong, but I believe MsDavis is saying that if you ever have more than one sexual partner that you deserve to die of ovarian cancer
theresgoldinthemtherehills
How eloquently put. Couldn’t have expressed the emotion I’m feeling better.
DocFunkenstein
I'm a poet and didn't... even realize I was.
Flamingphoenix32
Conservatives believe that if you have sex with more than one person you get ovarian cancer. Seriously.
2old4
And all doctors are men.
Zamm005
The anti trans propaganda isn't working because there aren't enough trans people... So the propaganda switched to "man Vs woman reeee" several months ago. This is some of the worst of it.
Yay US election years!
scrumby
Man vs. woman propaganda is a constant that merely comes in and out of mainstream focus. Pearl's entire shtick is being a pretty white woman face of neo-fascist misogyny. She exists to validate the hatred guys like Andrew Tate have for women and not-men.
xmaneds
1. ovarian cancer is not caused by promiscuity. 2. vaccines can be developed by women
HandoB4Javert
Such as the process and vaccines against Covid-19 Dr Katalin Karikó and Dr Drew Weissman who won Nobel Prize
https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/2023/press-release/> and using a different technique https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Gilbert
spookyactionatadistance
100% but ovarian cancer can be caused by HPV and even though some estimates are that 90% of men and 80% of woken will get it no matter what some weird people link it exclusively to promiscuity. They are ghouls. All current republican identifying people are ghouls
crypticorb
3. Even if it was a man doing it for the weirdly specific reason to help promiscuous women, it’s still a good thing done for people who need it.
keraos
Idk that seems like a pretty controversial pair of statements. Source? /s
Idontneedrealfacts
um, my pastor told me that ovarian cancer is caused by god being angry at slutty women. Its kind of like how if I talk about what happens in the church basement with the youth group god will be angry.
landbaronness42
If the woman is a virgin and her husband was slutty she can get it from him.
ChoovaMonster
Promiscuity does increase your risk of contracting HPV strains 16 & 18, which are associated with increased risk of ovarian cancer. Hence why pap smears are done and performed more frequently for women who have multiple partners. Anytime you increase your sexual partners you increase the risk of disease. Same with men. It's just that cancerous HPV is mostly symptomatic in women.
CookieEater0
Long time lurker here but had to actually make an account just to reply to this- HPV strains 16, 18 (and 41) increase the risk of CERVICAL cancer, not OVARIAN cancer. Those are 2 different parts of the female reproductive system and made up of very different cell types. Pap smears CANNOT detect ovarian cancer- only cervical cancer. Increased frequency of pap smears will not decrease your risk of ovarian cancer.
iggylights
Perhaps they are confusing this with cervical cancer which is usually caused by one of a few strains of Human Papilloma Virus, a sexually transmitted disease. The Gardasil vaccine has been highly effective at preventing this when administered to children starting around age 12, ideally before they become sexually active.
IWannaMemeWithSomebody
Even then it is a little ridiculous. A woman who has sex with no one but her husband her entire life could still get HPV from her husband if he slept with someone before or during their marriage. It's not like only women can get it or transmit it...
MastahPetah
Unfortunately people got up in arms because they thought vaccinating their kid for an STI is in some way giving them permission to be sexually active.
UNHchabo
In case anybody missed it, they've opened the HPV vaccine recommendations to include significantly more people over the past several years. If you've never had it, talk with your doctor.
iggylights
Available for folks up to age 45 I believe
UNHchabo
Yeah, but at that point I'd say even if you're 50 it's still worth bringing up. Worst case is your doctor says "I don't recommend it for you".
xmaneds
correct, HPV-16 and HPV-18, and you're totally right about the cervical cancer vaccine:
v
ExTechOp
The HPV vaccine is included in Finland's national vaccination programme. In Finland, all 10-12-year-olds, i.e. pupils in grades 5 and 6, have the opportunity to get the HPV vaccine free of charge.
— https://thl.fi/aiheet/infektiotaudit-ja-rokotukset/rokotteet-a-o/hpv-eli-papilloomavirusrokote/esitteet-ja-viestintamateriaalit-hpv-rokotteesta/papilloomavirus-ja-hpv-rokote-eri-kielilla/hpv-vaccine-protects-against-many-forms-of-cancer
Tuigens
I want that vaccine too. Too bad i'm too old to have been given it as part of the program.
UNHchabo
For what it's worth, I'm in the US and the HPV vaccine is 100% covered by my health insurance.
Several years ago when Rick Perry was running for president one of his opponents tried to hit him on "encouraging promiscuity" for implementing a state program on the HPV vaccine, and he simply responded "the state of Texas is opposed to cancer".
DocFunkenstein
"Not no more tho! We encourage God's wrath 'round here, y'all! Until it happens to us, then it's a tragedy, plz halp!" --Texan fuckwads
DocFunkenstein
Yeah, my befuddlement wasn't over that.
BigDaddysMeatWagon
I THINK she is assuming HPV is the cause of ovarian cancer? Maybe? But that's not how it works and she's a moron
Mechwarrior719
There’s a nonzero chance that commenter is a Russian or Chinese misinformation/troll bot. Twitter was a cesspool of them before Leon Stinkoman bought it, but his control has definitely made things worse.
Mechwarrior719
Post script: the fact that’s an actual person is even more pathetic.
ClericOfTheProsperityGospel
Unnnnfortunately. That's not a bot. That's a right wing misogyny influencer. Does she take money from a foreign power? Maybe. But that's not why she started. She started because she's a piece of shit loser. And age still is one today.
DidaChikDumaChum
Nah. Not a bot, but a grifter that occupies the niche of woman telling insecure men how everything is women's fault.
ExecutiveProducerWolfDyck
The idiot in the post thinks that ovarian cancer is caused by the Pavlova virus, and that Pavlova virus is exclusively transmitted through sex, and presumably that you can't get it from your husband either.
JusticePhrall
Lol, it isn't the virus named after the 1920s Russian ballet superstar, but the 'papillomavirus' I think you're talking about. No biggie. You made good points.
NarratesTheDarkerStory
"what you WHOREDIOTS don't seem to UNDERSTAND, is that I don't UNDERSTAND, how any of it WORKS! But I love GOD more than getting my flower DESECRATED, and my continued virginity is by CHOICE!" *quiet sob* - H Pearl whatever, probably
imnotinthewitnessprotectionprogram
Also, I’ll be headed to the Brothel this evening for some good gentlemanly fun. Plz don’t ask any follow up questions. Good night
DocFunkenstein
I know it was just a little typo on your part, but I'm currently watching reruns of the Great British Bake-Off, and your post made me laugh. (Pavlovas are a cake-like dessert made with meringue.)
ExecutiveProducerWolfDyck
Dammit, I googled it to check and it autofilled with that, so that's what I put. Papilloma* virus. Also, be careful of the baked goods you put in your mouth, that creme filling could go bad.
dimmadamaged
Lol the best pavlovas are made with promiscuity. It's the only way to stiffen up those whites.
SaintSleepyWeasel
This is EXACTLY how my brain reacted too. I'm still reading it trying to figure out what exactly is not connecting here.
MadCat221
She's a Collaborator. 'Nuff said.
HashMaster9k
RuBisCO1
Conservative, tradcon, fascist, etc, all the same thing.
Dudueazul2
True.
trigonman3
HashMaster9k
trigonman3
APJF0P8.jpeg as well, but the one I posted has the benefit of being faithful to the dialogue.
JiffyGee
I really need to know what this has to do with the price of eggs in China.
CareerKnight
I have lost count of the number of bad things they have attributed to having sex.
tsiyeria
And propagating the idea that the only way to develop reproductive cancers is through STIs.
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tsiyeria
Except this is about ovarian cancer, not cervical cancer.
SOinsanity365
Ohhhh damn, you are right. My mistake. Thank you for pointing it out before I made more of an assumption out of myself.
seheim
And that only men can sleep around. Or did they mean only women? Or that only women have consequences? Question questions
vagueluciditee
97-99% of cervical cancers are du to the VPH which is, sadly, a virus transmitted sexualy. That's why it's important to get the VPH cancer before being sexualy active. https://cancer.ca/en/cancer-information/cancer-types/cervical/risks
tsiyeria
Once again, I point out that the vaccine mentioned in the OP is against OVARIAN cancer, not CERVICAL cancer.
Qualtagh
Wait, can vaccines deal with cancers that aren't coming from viruses?
tsiyeria
Relevant follow-up question: Is ovarian cancer caused by HPV? Cervical cancer can be, but I've not heard anything about ovarian cancer.
HPV is also not exclusively transmitted sexually. You can get it by shaking hands with someone. It just takes contact with the infected bit.
Mmbear
Ovarian cancer can be cause by PCOS, so no it is not just caused by HPV. Afaik any replicating cell in the body has the ability to mutate into a cancerous cell.
Qualtagh
I gotta assume we're not talking about HPV since that vaccine has been out for a while. But if they're preventing cancer that isn't related to SOME virus with a vaccine, then my understanding of vaccines is much too narrow
SaintSleepyWeasel
STIs don't cause cancer... Viruses don't cause cancer... Bacteria don't cause cancer... Cancer is your own cells messing up during the duplication process and making a bad set of copies that then continue to make bad copies. I teach this over simplification to my middle school students when we study the micro biome. This is not new knowledge. God damnit!
tsiyeria
The human papilloma virus (HPV) can and does cause cervical, anal, and rarely throat cancers. HPV is, I believe, classified as an STI, despite the fact that sexual contact is not necessary to contract it.
xmaneds
yeah that's insane
Cinammontoastcrunch
It's like saying only smokers develop throat cancer
SOinsanity365
90% of throat cancers are caused by tobacco use, so maybe not the best comparison.
Cinammontoastcrunch
You proved my point, commonly caused and exclusively caused are not the same thing. My point is people assume it's from one thing and you must've done that for it
thundercactus
More accurately it would be like saying "only smokers develop myeloid leukemia".
Smoking increases the risk, but genetics and age are much bigger factors.
Sebastopol140
Yeah but you know "These bad behaving women have been punished by GOD"
youlovemeyouhateme
Since Eve ate the apple.....
DontTazeMeBrah
God's will... and not like you know, genetics or enviromental factors but that was God's will too so... yeah, hes a dick
malbec
“These bad behaving have been punished by GOD” is their entire world view. That’s it, that’s the scope. Their own success with e comic growth/health/fitness/etc is seen as their reward for being “good”
mratio
Please leave my dog out of this, she’s been through enough.
RawSuger
also that if you do have sex outside marriage that you deserve to get cancer which...is a very traditional outlook
193X
Or even if you're a virgin before marriage, but your husband passes on an infection that increases cancer risk (e.g. HPV), that you also deserve it?
You can do everything "right" by their book, but you should still die of slut-disease because you dared to be born as a woman.
SOinsanity365
“Traditional” meaning “God told some dudes thousands of years ago that the natural sexual state of humans is morally wrong” even though just like Bonobos do now, we also use sexual behavior to reinforce social bonds, which in turn stabilizes our species society.
thundercactus
Religious principles were almost always a solution for an actual societal issue. I wonder if monogamy was their way of attempting to reduce the prevalence of STI's?
Consider that the crowd they were pitching Christianity to were Romans.
KRicci
Maybe that, and maybe also trying to reduce the number of single mothers, since society denied women any agency and granted them very little means of earning money
Youhavinagiraffe
My grandmother died last year of ovarian cancer at 93... what a slut!
TheN8
No wonder those "granny's want to fuck in YOUR area" ads stopped suddenly... (Joking aside, sorry for your loss)
trigonman3
We love sluts round these parts.
torisenblack
Fucking queen! Grandma's finding out if those angels are wearing grey sweatpants now!
HunglikeaHamster
No, but the ones that can be prevented by a vaccine are..
akefay
The biggest risk factors for ovarian cancer are generic.
There's no known link to any infections of any kind whatsoever, security transmitted or otherwise. The vaccine works by teaching the immune system to attack the cancerous cells as soon as they form.
Thattallblondechick
Actually not true! Cancer vaccines are a thing. As in, they don't protect you from a virus, they boost your immune system against cancer-specific antigens. Still in early stages of development though.
tsiyeria
Okay this is super cool and I did not know this. Do you have a sauce for further reading?
Thattallblondechick
Sorry, didn't see the notification! I had to look something up because the way I know about it is I used to be in research and the neighbor lab was doing cancer vaccine research. But I found a review on pubmed that talks about peptide-based cancer vaccines but there are other kinds like mRNA. If you type in cancer vaccine in pubmed you'll find more.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37654484/
Thattallblondechick
TL/DR is cancer cells often start making proteins that are unique and don't occur outside of cancer so you can develop a vaccine to get your immune system to recognize those and kill any cell that has it.