cameloDancer
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Aug 2, 2024 11:34 PM
cameloDancer
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Icanhearwhatyouresayingandtheanswerisno
I’m definitely taking the piss
tariqk
Systematic Approaches to Learning Algorithms and Machine Inferences (SALAMI).
varyael
I figured out what AI is good for. Asking questions about Zelda: TotK
SardineGoblin
BleedingQuasar
Dajova
It's "fine" for using it for personal use. it's when it's used for commercial content is where it needs to die. It's still a very grey area and only a handful of direct laws for it.
zyxwvuts
Kiss my piss
alfredwong1215
Accidentally turned my toaster into a sentient being. Now it's critiquing my breakfast choices and demanding better bread quality.
Xendrash
cameloDancer you have been added to the list of anti-AI when our overlords gain sentience you will be sentenced to work the rare metals mines until death.
cameloDancer
Aww beans! I was hoping to be put into a tub of goop, connected to wires so I could be used as a battery, a while my brain was thinking I was living in 1998.
Blabulus
I really enjoy AI maybe if you used it to create something instead of just complaining about it, you'd see it differently!
ongabonga
You're not creating, you're letting something create something for you using something someone else created while taking credit for it
SpaceballsTheComment
If you really think that's all AI is capable of, you'll have a LOT of reading to do, buddy.
myotherusernameismyotherusername
How is using your own models trained with your own data stealing?
nevergoingtogiveyouupnevergoingtoletyoudown
It's not even a good plagiarism.
Rips4w
Even the AI is garbage in this timeline's future.
butterda
I love piss
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
Love piss
butterda
I do
OoWah
OneMoreLime
All hail piss master zuck!
IUpvoteFuturama
BeaverOnFire
Level21Magikarp
Did you just have that on hand?
OoWah
You should see my phone's gif folder.
vmos
So I was looking for "niche adult clothing" and I found these shorts that were designed to fill up with piss, not like a balloon but with a penis pipe to tubes and compartents so the piss was on display. I think there was an option to attach to a top and mask. That was much to niche (and smelly) for me, but it seemed like it might be the inspiration for this character
poscduke
What were you looking for originally?
vmos
I don't recall exactly, probably just plain old boring everyday latex without the deluxe piss storage features
cuddleskunk
AI has no business in media. It's a great technology for filtering through simulation results, and when combined with machine learning, has great applications in preliminary medical chemistry. Most technologies have a place...but they are so often misused. We don't need to try and put artists out of a job in an attempt to increase corporate profits...which is what AI is being so heavily pushed into right now.
RickRollEditor
ALSO, machine learning is artificial intelligence. I don't get why people think there's a distinction between that. Machine learning literally a category of AI.
cuddleskunk
Yes...I am aware of that fact, but I also know that most people know the "buzzword" versions, and so used the more simplified language.
RickRollEditor
And we should also ban the book press, because the poor monks will be out of a job! I am so tired of this stupid argument.
cuddleskunk
Wow...what a totally good-faith and not at all bullshit rebuttal. The printing press didn't put *writers* out of their jobs...it put *transcribers* out of jobs. It made it easier for more people to get their hands on books. Our current usages of AI in media are not about increasing the availability of information...they are about replacing creatives.
RickRollEditor
If you can't do a better job than an AI, then OF FUCKING COURSE we're not going to fucking pay you for it. We're not going to cater to your incompetence for absolutely no reason at all.
cuddleskunk
It's not about doing it *better*. It's about doing it *cheaper*. Good art that costs a company the price of living wages for the artist...or "acceptable" art that costs ten cents. That's something you either haven't thought about or are glancing over.
RickRollEditor
WE ARE NOT GOING TO CATER TO YOUR USELESSNESS AND INCOMPETENCY. If AN A.I. CAN REPLACE YOU, IT SHOULD. We're not going to fucking regress decades of technology just because of a bunch of whiney brats that don't get that technology exists.
allnewuserforyou
False equivalency is false. The printing press didn't replace monks, but synthetic plagiarism systems like ChatGPC do replace artists.
RickRollEditor
ChatGPT does not plagiarise anything. It's literally nothing but a bunch of algorithms. There has been zero cases of an LLM or ANN AI losing a case in court, because ANN and LLM A.I. doesn't even have a fucking storage. It's literally nothing but algorithms. There are no databases. There are no assets stored. Nothing.
allnewuserforyou
Write Gaiman:
In the heart of a forgotten forest, there stood a solitary door. No walls, no frame, just a door. One night, a lost traveler named Eliza stumbled upon it. Curiosity piqued, she turned the handle and stepped through.
Instantly, she found herself in a world of shimmering twilight. A voice, ancient and kind, spoke: "You have found the Door of Dreams. What is your heart's desire?"
Eliza smiled, her worries melting away. "To find where I belong."
The door vanished, and she was home.
RickRollEditor
ALSO, LLM A.I.'s constantly "misremembers" and makes up facts, EXACTLY because they don't have databases. They have neural networks. Not hard stored assets. We call it that they "hallucinate" when they misremember and misassociates.
RickRollEditor
And that is not stored in a database. That is "memorized" by a complex set of algorithms in an artificial neural network. JUST like the memory in your brain.
allnewuserforyou
This isn't plagiarism, but it's pretty f*cking gross. Why should Gaiman bother writing, when an algorithm trained on his work can replicate his work in a passable fashion?
Thisisabigmistake
I don't understand technology but I think what we're seeing is not intelligence
3Davideo
Yeah, I feel that people were much too eager to apply the label "AI" even though what we have bears little resemblance to, say, C3PO or HAL 9000.
ravnicrasol
The reason for that tends to come out of a combination of overhype and misunderstanding.
To over-simplify a very complicated issue, many dismiss AI due to "It doesn't understand!", but fail to grasp that "comprehension" is not a prerequisite for intelligence but rather what happens at the higher-end of it.
There's so many IRL examples of this. People who solve problems but can't find better solutions due to not grasping the concepts behind the issue.
Filolial
Its ouput is only as good as its training data, and if it hasn't learned something it will still try to answer... badly. The "intelligence" comes from the ability to learn like a human would (without the critical thinking, the AI will take all its data as fact).
cheesedogs
Can we train the AI on narrower subjects? Like, what if it was only reading medical research papers and textbooks, maybe it could be more useful?
Rhythmaster
Maybe, but even those sources could have wrong or obsolete information that the AI would still take as fact. Maybe it reads 2 papers that have contradictory findings, how will it decide which one is correct? It will just confidently guess, and could be wrong.
mikeatike
Never has been astronautgunmeme.jpg
TacoPoweredHelicopter
It's not, AI is just better marketing than llm.
Gegenschein
Exactly. It’s Machine Learning. Anyone calling it Artificial Intelligence is either ignorant or trying to sell it
BrutallyHonest
A lot of these systems are actually AI, just Narrow AI which means they tend to be really good at one thing. The issues is that people want AGI which would be AI in the film sense.
RickRollEditor
Machine Learning is a subcategory of Artificial Intelligence. I QUOTE: "Machine learning (ML) is a field of study in artificial intelligence concerned with the development and study of statistical algorithms that can learn from data..."
SimiKusoni
A state machine or behaviour tree would be classed as "AI", but these approaches are not by any definition ML. A layperson would also probably consider them even more basic than a typical ML model. ML is a subset of AI and how a solution is defined has nothing to do with capabilities, complexity or performance but rather details of the approach used.
RickRollEditor
Yes, it is intelligence. Artificial intelligence. Intelligence is the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills. Which an LLM AI and ANN AIs in general does.
LuIu
Leave it to this guy to not know what intelligence is.
TacoPoweredHelicopter
It cannot do either of those things. Thats like saying a dictionary has intelligence. They can regurgitate stored information (that is not applying knowledge) and they most definitely cannot acquire new skills.
RickRollEditor
Also, for the millionth time, LLM AIs does not "store" information. They are 100% neural networks and algorithms. They do not have any databases to look up information. That is what people keep getting wrong.
TacoPoweredHelicopter
Many llm's are fully trained and store everything within them, the first public chat gpt for example. It's more complex than a database but they can easily be isolated systems and often are.
RickRollEditor
Intelligence is the ability to acquire and apply knowledge and skills. YES, A DICTIONARY CAN NOT, and hence it does not have intelligence. You're literally saying what I'm saying.
TacoPoweredHelicopter
I am saying current "AI" is not much different than a dictionary it's just very good at understanding inquiries and outputting data.
abion47
Except it isn't acquiring skills. It's doing exactly what it was programmed to do. And calling its reduction of input data into a database of extremely specialized heuristics devoid of any real context or comprehension "acquiring knowledge" is a very generous description of the process.
RickRollEditor
My God, you literally misunderstood completely what an LLM is. An LLM LITERALLY DOES NOT HAVE ASSETS, DATABASES OR ANYTHING STORED. It's also LITERALLY NOT PROGRAMMED. It is TRAINED. An LLM AI is a set of algorithms that has been self-developed by the A.I. through feeding it enourmous amounts of data. AN LLM AI HAS NO DATABASE. THAT'S THE ENTIRE POINT OF IT!
RickRollEditor
That you even THINK that an LLM AI has a "database" shows you have a severe fundamental misunderstanding of how ANY of this works.
abion47
The fact that you think it doesn't shows you are nothing more than a wannabe tech nerd who hears the word "database" and can only think of something like MySQL. There are many different kinds of databases and they take many forms. What is it you think an AI model is, genius? It is, among other things, a compiled database that holds the data generated from the training that is necessary for the AI to function.
RickRollEditor
I'm going to mute everyone now, because I'm getting tired of incompetent replies and having to say the same over and over again.
RickRollEditor
An AI model is a set of algorithms stored across several independent external pointed files and are not accessed in any way like an asset database. But what do I know, I only have a bachelor in A.I. from NITH.
areyouelonmusk
Boo this man!
RickRollEditor
Yes, I know, Imgur hates facts that don't apply to their circlejerk of hate.
PerrinAybara564
Careful, your LLM "intelligence" is showing.
RickRollEditor
While humans definitely are NNs, we're not LLMs. But what do I know, I'm just a bioengineer AND later got my bachelor in A.I. from NITH
RickRollEditor
But again, Imgur circlejerks hates facts that don't fit their agenda, it is what it is.
filurilurl
They don't, though. If you think they do, I guess your intelligence is approaching theirs.
RickRollEditor
Your brain is no different than an A.I. And if you think otherwise, go pray to your "God" and save your "soul", since you clearly believe such a thing exists.
EnvironmentalStorytellingToiletSkeleton
It's okay, a LLM also doesn't understand how brains work.
RickRollEditor
AI has been a tool since nearly the development of computers. It's staggering that people don't realize this, and only just got aware of it due to the ChatGPT and LLM AI craze. It's a tool, a great tool, and it's not going away, since we've been using it literally for decades without you whining about it.
filurilurl
That's a hot take, since actual AI still doesn't actually exist. It's applied statistics with clever marketing, and if you think otherwise you've fallen for the marketing part.
RickRollEditor
Oh, for fucks sake. For the millionth time, the definition of "intelligence" is something having the ability to gather and use information/data. So we very much have AI. So tired of this.
filurilurl
So by your own definition, we don't have AI? Since it has no ability of its own, and is merely executing a function, the same way any programming works, except at a more advanced/complicated level. It doesn't gather data any more than a bot scraping the web for email addresses to flood with spam does. It doesn't use information any more than a field taking a certain input to compute another output. It's not intelligent, and never has been.
RickRollEditor
"Since it has no ability of its own, and is merely executing a function, the same way any programming works" That's literally what your brain is doing. And if you think otherwise, go pray to your "God" and save your "soul", since you clearly believe such a thing exists.
filurilurl
lol, go to bed dude, if that's your interpretation of any of this you're cleary delusional :) wish you all the best
TomBrokaw
By the general definition of AI, nowhere near that long. And the criticisms of LLMs are valid, especially the training methods that the corps who own them are using.
RickRollEditor
The general definition of INTELLIGENCE is the ability to gather and use information/data. So yes, we very fucking much have had A.I. for decades.
TomBrokaw
How have computers been gathering data for decades? Humans have input data into them, sure, but that's not the same at all, and if you think it is, I'd invite you to consider letting a baby gather its own food and how that might turn out.
EdmundandHarald365
That's not the definition of intelligence. It is the application of knowledge. And current and old AI don't do it very well, so it's not that good, not matter how hard you protest.
allnewuserforyou
the word "use" is doing a lot of heavy lifting there, mostly in assuming that the algorithmic collating of data into familiar data sets is the same as "thinking." It seems different, insofar as it only regurgitates, never creates.
BTW, if you can come up with a solid definition of "intelligence" that isn't just techbro buzzspeak for "this thing I want to sell," I'm pretty sure you get a PhD in philosophy.
RickRollEditor
I am literally quoting the definition of the word.
RickRollEditor
And your brain LITERALLY is nothing but an algorithmic processing machine itself, except differently structured and having far more processing power. If you think there are ANY differences in how we function on the base level, you can go to your "god" and go believe in the stupid myth about souls.
RickRollEditor
EdmundandHarald365
The application of knowledge is not the same as using data.