Started of Confession Based Then Turned Into a Depressive Vent...

Oct 14, 2022 10:15 AM

chris3spice

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I've never understood when I was younger what my mom meant when she said "Think before you speak."

I'm not conciously aware of what I say until I say it. Like this message I don't know what I'm typing until I see it on the screen. I've disconnected from life I have been since I was little due to abuse at school.

I don't have a lot I enjoy, I want to learn languages but I need to read and people always say read what you enjoy... I don't know what I enjoy, I grew up a people pleaser. I usually never got what I wanted and when people asked what I wanted I would just answer what I thought they wanted to hear.

Anyway back to the languages, I hate reading, I don't "hear" character voices in my head or a narrator or anything like that. I can't visualize the settings or the characters. I actually have no idea if I've actually absorbed information unless someone asks me something about the book and I can respond.

So I get very annoyed at myself because I know I need to read to learn a language but I can't get myself to do it. I was learning Korean Sign Language instead because that gives me hand movements to remember. I used to make YouTube videos but I stopped because I could only do single signs and not sentences or lessons. I felt like a fraud cause I am not fluent in Korean. So I wanted to pick up KSL again after I learned Korean.

I've been depressed for a while now, been on a bunch of different medications and none of it has helped a lot. The only time I was actually feeling different was when I was in Korea and had unlimited freedom. Which translated to me sitting in a cafe most of the time just doodling and 'attempting' to study Korean, Japanese or Vietnamese. I posted my drawings here but I've stopped since I've gotten back to the US. I've tried to draw but I end up just staring at the screen.

I just don't know what brings joy. Marie Kondo would tell me to throw myself out.

I feel worse lately cause my wife wants to have a baby. With medicine its difficult for me and it was difficult even before that. I'm not a big sexual person. I honestly don't understand how people find it pleasurable. To me it is like a chore or homework. I've never like kissing or making out, it never felt good. I just do it because it's expected. I don't see how people enjoy that either or how it get's them going. Anyway I feel like a failure of a guy and I'm not good enough for my wife.

I'm tired of feeling this way but I have no idea what is making me feel this way. I did do some therapy when I could afford it but they wanted to do CBT. But I don't know when I'm having negative thoughts. All I know is I have a feeling I can't describe. I only really know two emotions my whole life I can remember Sad and this weird Neutral. The littelest of criticism drives me into a horrible sad spiral, especially if it's from my wife. It could be something as small as you forgot to take the trash out, I'll start tearing up. Every other emotion I just fake like when you get a sweater from your aunt for Christmas when you were eight. I just react how I think others around me expected me to react.

I've been okay the rest of my life because I just went day to day like the fish in Spongebob. Now that I'm married though I want to be good for my wife but I'm just a broken person who is now jobless and has no idea what kind of job or life they'd actually enjoy because I locked myself away inside my mind when I was young.

Lately I was thinking of streaming while drawing or maybe trying Kaizo IronMON but then remembered I hate interacting with people and that's what you have to do as a streamer.

If you've read to here you are a saint. Thank you for letting my words waste your time.

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for languages, try duolingo that will teach and review for you. I use flash cards via anki or another srs resource to track my progress too

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Thank you

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Recommend a non-fiction read: Adult Survivors of Toxic Family Members by Sherrie Campbell. Not long and quite enlightening. You're worth it

3 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

I'll try it but its not my family that was toxic it was school kids and teachers. May help anyway!

3 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Sounds pretty rough. Maybe think about starting on therapy again? Of CBT isn't working, bring that up. Your therapist works for you, /1

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Not the other way around. Also, have you read about aphantasia? The lack of ability to plan out sentences in your head and give book /2

3 years ago | Likes 84 Dislikes 0

Upvote; I was going to mention this after reading @op's post.

3 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

also wanted to say sounds like some CTPSD or ADHD adjacent symptoms but I'm not a doctor

3 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Characters a voice sounds like it might be related. I hope you get help with all of this, it sounds like you have people in your life who /3

3 years ago | Likes 63 Dislikes 0

Care about you. If there's anyone you trust, maybe talking to them might help. 4/4

3 years ago | Likes 51 Dislikes 0

I have aphantasia and this sounds like aphantasia combined with having no internal monologue. OP, talk to a therapist and continue the work-

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These conditions are rough, but they shouldn’t make you feel like this. You can overcome this, keep up the good fight. I believe in you.

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sorry if this sounds weird but, have you looked into autism and asexuality? I am autistic and have recently learned about "aegosexuality"

3 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

I just a guy online but you should talk with your wife. Se if she is ok with you not wanting sex and affection. If she is that is great, if

3 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

2) she isn't then that is HUGE and you probably shouldn't have a kid together. Marriage is work yes but it shouldn't be a chore

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It sounds like hes on the Ace/Aro spectrum. Marriage can still be rewarding but itll be difficult if her love language is physical intimacy.

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Find a flat, dry patch of grass. Fold urself into a ball and roll around

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I do that anytime I workout as a stretch!

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I read something about stimulating ur senses in unusual ways

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Would not surprise me it's like trying to do stuff with your non-dominant hand, they find its good for the brain

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Stream with interacting. Turn off comments. Art is a way of expression. If it brings you joy then do it. It might bring joy to others.

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Hey bud, I don't have a lot to throw in, but it sounds like you may be on the asexual spectrum, which is VALID and doesn't make you bad! 1/?

3 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

If you can see a therapist, I'd suggest looking for one that's LGBTQ+ friendly. You can screen by that here! https://www.psychologytoday.com

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Hi friend, you obv have a very unique/atypical brain that you would benefit from understanding better. 1/2

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

You can achieve this through a neuropsychological evaluation. I'm gonna DM some info that helped me in a similar situation. 2/2

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I have no useful knowledge for you, but I hope you find good help. Audiobooks could help with reading since the voices are included :⁠-⁠)

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I second audiobooks! They've saved me. Was in a very numb place for a while and audiobooks gave me my imagination back.

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May give it a try and see if I can find audiobooks in Korean. Problem is I don't have anything I enjoy so I don't know what books to get.

3 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Get a subscription service and try a few from different authors and genres. There's something out there for most people.

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Get books that are functional or in your general interest. Enjoyment may follow. Try different things

3 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

try to find a list of top 10 cultural books who influenced Korea, if possible by someone not related to the industry

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documentaries, fiction book based on real events, perhaps a romance book or two in Korean?

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Then go for classics. If you really want them in Korean, try history / culture / folk tales

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May I suggest getting an audio book you can read along to. It would help you learn written languages whilst hearing the voices out loud.

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This sounds like an even better idea!

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Maybe psilocybin therapy can help, if you can't find shrooms?

3 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

I also commented to recommend psychedelics. You can grow them easily (in most states) for under 80 bucks, and its legal up until they fruit.

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That's a condition. My friend has the exact same thing

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Well at least you narrowed it down for him.

3 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

yeah its a recurring topic on r/books apparently its a thing.

3 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Genuinely asking: does “r/books” refer to that social media site “Reddit?” I apologize, but I am naive to many things.

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Yup

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I know aphantasia is there a condition for no voices? I don't know for that one.

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Not sure if theres a name for it but it def is a thing (from what i can tell) that some ppl have. Good news is that it is apparently a good>

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>thing when trying to learn a new language so there's that. GL @op

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Missing inner monologue, normal. Which also includes not being able to picture things in the mind. I hope you find what you need to be happy

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Dissociation? Ever tried DBT? Focuses on feelings and practical actions instead of introspection. Might help. Sorry to hear :(

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Never heard of that ill look it up

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Prolly not very helpful, but you're not alone. I'm another guy who's had only those two emotions and similar relationship to sexual stuff.

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It's helpful just to know others out with some of the problems! Don't discount that!

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Almost all the problems youve listed, i experience myself. Feels very alienating

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Asexual people are a thing.

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its definitely a spectrum! im learning im more demi to ace after all these years of trying to be normal.

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Don't have kids yet. Seriously, kids will make nothing better in anyway and right now you don't know what you want. You need to focus on you

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I agree. I have three kids. Any problems I had before didn’t get fixed by having them. I have no time to work on myself at all.

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When I say "focus on you", I mean you need to develop a sense of self and explore your own talents and interests.

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Also kids are stressful, amazing and wonderful, but very stressful. Stress will not help you with these issues at all.

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Yes, absolutely, and you need to talk to your wife about this. It's not fair to her to pretend everything's fine when it's not. /1

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Definitely don't have a kid with her in this state. That would just compound the problem. /2

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Well that's a lot. Did it feel better getting it out? Tell us more

3 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

My feeling is better but I know that its only temporary sadly. I am not sure what else to tell at the moment. Just I don't feel human.

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I think everyone who days they do all the time would by lying. We all feel this way at least sometimes

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It sounds like you were happiest when there was no pressure on you. Try to remember there is no pressure, just be you <3

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Hey @op you have something called “aphantasia” and you should check out the r/aphantasia subreddit. Lots of us in there.

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Your words didn't waste my time. It seems as if you are able to write quite comfortably. I've found that journaling can help.

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Very clearly neurological. Definitely need to find help. Start looking up what others are suggesting and then find a doctor that can help.

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Look up Aphantasia. There is a link in my bio that has good description of it.

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Thanks, I know aphantasia but I'll check out your link. I just don't know about the no thoughts at all

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You said you were thinking of streaming while drawing, that sounds like a thought to me ?

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In my subconcious, I didn't know I was thinking that until I typed it and saw it

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Have you tried writing a diary of a kind to see you thoughts more regularly?

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Everytime I try I just end up staring at a blank page, once sat there two hours doing nothing but staring and holding a pencil

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I don’t have any advice to offer but i wish i did. I’m so sorry you were harmed as a child. Please talk to your wife, and soon.

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Sounds like you may be asexual? It took me a lot longer than it should to realize I'm also ace. As for the rest, might help to get diagnosed

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Mmm i think i can be too but go to psycolog help to understand if is true?

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He is definitely asexual. Most people don't know about it because it is one of the most rare of sexualities.

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I feel like asexual is at least more popular and well known than demisexual, like I am.. I always see people brig up ace but not demi

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I think it's possible he may not be fully ace, just the lack of emotions and inner self which means he feels nothing intimate with someone

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Asexuality is a spectrum/umbrella term, so you don't necessarily have to be "fully" ace. I probably fall more into gray ace territory.

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But also, fair point. Locked emotions may have an impact of physical intimacy.

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I mean this completely and honestly. Take a psychedelic. You can grow your own mushrooms for less than 80 bucks.

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I'm intrigued by a previous post saying you had a dream about john cena. How do your dreams compare to your waking imagination ability?

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Dreams are super clear but as soon as I wake up they are gone I can just recall what it was. Remembering dreams for me are super rare though

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That must be so frustrating. Try to remember that you are still a whole person even though you don't experience the world in the same way as

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Others. When one of my vocal cords became paralysed my ability to speak, sing (one of my passions) and even breathe easily was impacted,

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I felt like I was fading away, ceasing to be part of the same experience as others because I couldn't be part of the conversation. It's a

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Lonely experience and I'm sure you can relate to that feeling, but you have more in common with other humans than you have different, and

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Not everyone has an internal monologue. I was surprised that people DID have one. There are many work arounds for different ways of /2

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communicating or expressing oneself. These are not the problem. You need to find out who YOU are. You need to find out how to experience /3

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joy and pleasure. Find a therapist to help you find yourself. You deserve to feel more than ‘meh’. Unlock yourself. Find what makes u tick.

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So.. something’s that could help with learning is Audiobooks.

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Something that could help a lot with mood is peaceful music. Peaceful piano music helps my mind a lot as well..

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chill acoustic guitar.

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Here’s a song that might help.. https://youtu.be/k9NM-yK1C2I

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I didn't read this, but you really need to see a specialist regarding your lack of conscious awareness of your thoughts.

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I agree but can not afford one right now

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Can you apply for Medical help? Medicare or Medicaid may help you afford help and therapy.

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My wife makes just enough money I can't get help. She has good insurance but even with it here a therapist is 125 an hour.

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Before the deductible is met though it's around 200 to 250 dollars an hour

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Damn. If it helps, I went through betterhelp when I was still going through therapy, it's online and at least cheaper than that.

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If you want to learn languages, steal rosetta stone just like I did, it's quick, its easy and its free, like filling your socks with water.

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Whoa, so how is your study of Demotic going? Or are you doing the hieroglyphics?

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Look man, I can say bicycle in mandarin, and know my colors, I think Im doing pretty good.

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Wait, there is Mandarin on the Rosetta stone? I think you stole something else.

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Oh I get the joke now, but just to clarify, I'm talking about the language learning software rosetta stone. They charge like 600 bucks

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I got you. ^ ^ ... 600 is really outrageous. Who do they think can afford this?

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Sounds similar to aphantasia.

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As someone with Aphantasia, if it is then it's coupled with other things that may exacerbate it.

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didn't know this was a thing, this is definitely something i have.

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Even moreso sounds like SDAM (Severely Deficient Autobiographical Memory disorder). Basically living in third person with no emotional

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Is that where you have no internal dialogue?

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It's where if someone says "Imagine an apple" they can't see the apple in their mind.

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Actually think I have it. I can't picture things in my mind. I can dream but I have no imagination. I can think of things that I want.

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But I can't picture things

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So you can't see something like a pen and give it a colour and revolve it around to see it from different angles? You just think 'pen'?

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My whole life I thought everyone was being metaphorical until I learned about aphantasia a few years back.

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Wow. I can't imagine not being able to imagine.

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I don't know if not having a voice has a word or not but I do know aphantasia.

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My greatest help with my aphantasia is to-do lists and a journal. I am also thinking about writing a blog to document life for myself.

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I've tried Journaling before I just stare at the page one time I sat for almost 2 hours and didn't write anything down

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I only have a voice when actively imagining conversations. Afaik it's not that rare, just severely understudied. Try nonfiction for reading.

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I have aphantasia and almost the same thing I only have an internal voice when I'm reading, any music is always at a low volume.

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It's spectrum. My bud has aphantasia and can't imagine what other people voices sound like, so his brain uses his own voice. Brains be weird

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Wait, is that not the norm? Because I definitely 'hear' myself doing an 'impression' of that person. It's not even a good one.

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Man, who even knows what the norm is. I don't hear a particular voice unless I ascribe a voice to it.

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Aphantasia has a silver lining; at least that's how I choose to think about it. I can't picture my past tramas or relive my worst memories.

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on the bad end of that, there's multiple people I know with it who have caused more suicides from their actions then you'd think.

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Don’t worry about that. About 1/4 of world population don’t hear that inner voice. They kind of visualize ideas. There’s not a right 1/

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way for a brain to function. Focus on what you want/need, and the way to get it done. Love yourself and spread love. And have fun!

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I would agree that's descriptive of what you're experiencing, but couple with....maybe some ADHD and/or depression. There's some things

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that have a weird overlap. Confounds are not uncommon.

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In the same way your already identified depression causes you issues and there's some overlap, so could ADHD.

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