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I've never understood when I was younger what my mom meant when she said "Think before you speak."
I'm not conciously aware of what I say until I say it. Like this message I don't know what I'm typing until I see it on the screen. I've disconnected from life I have been since I was little due to abuse at school.
I don't have a lot I enjoy, I want to learn languages but I need to read and people always say read what you enjoy... I don't know what I enjoy, I grew up a people pleaser. I usually never got what I wanted and when people asked what I wanted I would just answer what I thought they wanted to hear.
Anyway back to the languages, I hate reading, I don't "hear" character voices in my head or a narrator or anything like that. I can't visualize the settings or the characters. I actually have no idea if I've actually absorbed information unless someone asks me something about the book and I can respond.
So I get very annoyed at myself because I know I need to read to learn a language but I can't get myself to do it. I was learning Korean Sign Language instead because that gives me hand movements to remember. I used to make YouTube videos but I stopped because I could only do single signs and not sentences or lessons. I felt like a fraud cause I am not fluent in Korean. So I wanted to pick up KSL again after I learned Korean.
I've been depressed for a while now, been on a bunch of different medications and none of it has helped a lot. The only time I was actually feeling different was when I was in Korea and had unlimited freedom. Which translated to me sitting in a cafe most of the time just doodling and 'attempting' to study Korean, Japanese or Vietnamese. I posted my drawings here but I've stopped since I've gotten back to the US. I've tried to draw but I end up just staring at the screen.
I just don't know what brings joy. Marie Kondo would tell me to throw myself out.
I feel worse lately cause my wife wants to have a baby. With medicine its difficult for me and it was difficult even before that. I'm not a big sexual person. I honestly don't understand how people find it pleasurable. To me it is like a chore or homework. I've never like kissing or making out, it never felt good. I just do it because it's expected. I don't see how people enjoy that either or how it get's them going. Anyway I feel like a failure of a guy and I'm not good enough for my wife.
I'm tired of feeling this way but I have no idea what is making me feel this way. I did do some therapy when I could afford it but they wanted to do CBT. But I don't know when I'm having negative thoughts. All I know is I have a feeling I can't describe. I only really know two emotions my whole life I can remember Sad and this weird Neutral. The littelest of criticism drives me into a horrible sad spiral, especially if it's from my wife. It could be something as small as you forgot to take the trash out, I'll start tearing up. Every other emotion I just fake like when you get a sweater from your aunt for Christmas when you were eight. I just react how I think others around me expected me to react.
I've been okay the rest of my life because I just went day to day like the fish in Spongebob. Now that I'm married though I want to be good for my wife but I'm just a broken person who is now jobless and has no idea what kind of job or life they'd actually enjoy because I locked myself away inside my mind when I was young.
Lately I was thinking of streaming while drawing or maybe trying Kaizo IronMON but then remembered I hate interacting with people and that's what you have to do as a streamer.
If you've read to here you are a saint. Thank you for letting my words waste your time.
xbitbob
for languages, try duolingo that will teach and review for you. I use flash cards via anki or another srs resource to track my progress too
VirtualHugger
chris3spice
Thank you
sadbitterkitten
Recommend a non-fiction read: Adult Survivors of Toxic Family Members by Sherrie Campbell. Not long and quite enlightening. You're worth it
chris3spice
I'll try it but its not my family that was toxic it was school kids and teachers. May help anyway!
Epinephilim
Sounds pretty rough. Maybe think about starting on therapy again? Of CBT isn't working, bring that up. Your therapist works for you, /1
Epinephilim
Not the other way around. Also, have you read about aphantasia? The lack of ability to plan out sentences in your head and give book /2
belly42
Upvote; I was going to mention this after reading @op's post.
jidar
also wanted to say sounds like some CTPSD or ADHD adjacent symptoms but I'm not a doctor
Epinephilim
Characters a voice sounds like it might be related. I hope you get help with all of this, it sounds like you have people in your life who /3
Epinephilim
Care about you. If there's anyone you trust, maybe talking to them might help. 4/4
AnElbowHorseDeepInMe
I have aphantasia and this sounds like aphantasia combined with having no internal monologue. OP, talk to a therapist and continue the work-
AnElbowHorseDeepInMe
These conditions are rough, but they shouldn’t make you feel like this. You can overcome this, keep up the good fight. I believe in you.
leahinspace
sorry if this sounds weird but, have you looked into autism and asexuality? I am autistic and have recently learned about "aegosexuality"
spookyactionatadistance
I just a guy online but you should talk with your wife. Se if she is ok with you not wanting sex and affection. If she is that is great, if
spookyactionatadistance
2) she isn't then that is HUGE and you probably shouldn't have a kid together. Marriage is work yes but it shouldn't be a chore
Xerubay
It sounds like hes on the Ace/Aro spectrum. Marriage can still be rewarding but itll be difficult if her love language is physical intimacy.
WizzoTheWizzard
Find a flat, dry patch of grass. Fold urself into a ball and roll around
chris3spice
I do that anytime I workout as a stretch!
WizzoTheWizzard
I read something about stimulating ur senses in unusual ways
chris3spice
Would not surprise me it's like trying to do stuff with your non-dominant hand, they find its good for the brain
ReptileZulu5
Stream with interacting. Turn off comments. Art is a way of expression. If it brings you joy then do it. It might bring joy to others.
OscelotHaalan
Hey bud, I don't have a lot to throw in, but it sounds like you may be on the asexual spectrum, which is VALID and doesn't make you bad! 1/?
OscelotHaalan
If you can see a therapist, I'd suggest looking for one that's LGBTQ+ friendly. You can screen by that here! https://www.psychologytoday.com
Mike808
Hi friend, you obv have a very unique/atypical brain that you would benefit from understanding better. 1/2
Mike808
You can achieve this through a neuropsychological evaluation. I'm gonna DM some info that helped me in a similar situation. 2/2
xoShiseUGA
I have no useful knowledge for you, but I hope you find good help. Audiobooks could help with reading since the voices are included :-)
Mk7gti15
I second audiobooks! They've saved me. Was in a very numb place for a while and audiobooks gave me my imagination back.
chris3spice
May give it a try and see if I can find audiobooks in Korean. Problem is I don't have anything I enjoy so I don't know what books to get.
Questionablysensible
Get a subscription service and try a few from different authors and genres. There's something out there for most people.
Buttholeo
Get books that are functional or in your general interest. Enjoyment may follow. Try different things
moreaujr
try to find a list of top 10 cultural books who influenced Korea, if possible by someone not related to the industry
moreaujr
documentaries, fiction book based on real events, perhaps a romance book or two in Korean?
moreaujr
Then go for classics. If you really want them in Korean, try history / culture / folk tales
tillie350
May I suggest getting an audio book you can read along to. It would help you learn written languages whilst hearing the voices out loud.
xoShiseUGA
This sounds like an even better idea!
Psychobeanz
Maybe psilocybin therapy can help, if you can't find shrooms?
OdinParkour
I also commented to recommend psychedelics. You can grow them easily (in most states) for under 80 bucks, and its legal up until they fruit.
Mattnader
That's a condition. My friend has the exact same thing
tuxedobob
Well at least you narrowed it down for him.
ThisHeretic
yeah its a recurring topic on r/books apparently its a thing.
KellyCrazyCatLadyinTraining
Genuinely asking: does “r/books” refer to that social media site “Reddit?” I apologize, but I am naive to many things.
ThisHeretic
https://www.reddit.com/r/books/
CoolioStallone
Yup
chris3spice
I know aphantasia is there a condition for no voices? I don't know for that one.
MrNardtastic
Not sure if theres a name for it but it def is a thing (from what i can tell) that some ppl have. Good news is that it is apparently a good>
MrNardtastic
>thing when trying to learn a new language so there's that. GL @op
LadyMidnightToker
Missing inner monologue, normal. Which also includes not being able to picture things in the mind. I hope you find what you need to be happy
alliusis
Dissociation? Ever tried DBT? Focuses on feelings and practical actions instead of introspection. Might help. Sorry to hear :(
chris3spice
Never heard of that ill look it up
UnagiFerrin
Prolly not very helpful, but you're not alone. I'm another guy who's had only those two emotions and similar relationship to sexual stuff.
chris3spice
It's helpful just to know others out with some of the problems! Don't discount that!
Artebudz
Almost all the problems youve listed, i experience myself. Feels very alienating
Zahnradfee
Asexual people are a thing.
noveltyanomaly
its definitely a spectrum! im learning im more demi to ace after all these years of trying to be normal.
PirateRubberDuck
Don't have kids yet. Seriously, kids will make nothing better in anyway and right now you don't know what you want. You need to focus on you
MBdub210
I agree. I have three kids. Any problems I had before didn’t get fixed by having them. I have no time to work on myself at all.
PirateRubberDuck
When I say "focus on you", I mean you need to develop a sense of self and explore your own talents and interests.
PirateRubberDuck
Also kids are stressful, amazing and wonderful, but very stressful. Stress will not help you with these issues at all.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Yes, absolutely, and you need to talk to your wife about this. It's not fair to her to pretend everything's fine when it's not. /1
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Definitely don't have a kid with her in this state. That would just compound the problem. /2
EmmaMelisande
Well that's a lot. Did it feel better getting it out? Tell us more
chris3spice
My feeling is better but I know that its only temporary sadly. I am not sure what else to tell at the moment. Just I don't feel human.
belindashort
I think everyone who days they do all the time would by lying. We all feel this way at least sometimes
HissyElliott
It sounds like you were happiest when there was no pressure on you. Try to remember there is no pressure, just be you <3
OverwhelmingSurplusOfDiggity
Hey @op you have something called “aphantasia” and you should check out the r/aphantasia subreddit. Lots of us in there.
Clearairturbulence42
Your words didn't waste my time. It seems as if you are able to write quite comfortably. I've found that journaling can help.
gobblinal
Very clearly neurological. Definitely need to find help. Start looking up what others are suggesting and then find a doctor that can help.
FeChefImgur
Look up Aphantasia. There is a link in my bio that has good description of it.
chris3spice
Thanks, I know aphantasia but I'll check out your link. I just don't know about the no thoughts at all
FeChefImgur
You said you were thinking of streaming while drawing, that sounds like a thought to me ?
chris3spice
In my subconcious, I didn't know I was thinking that until I typed it and saw it
an3l3j
Have you tried writing a diary of a kind to see you thoughts more regularly?
chris3spice
Everytime I try I just end up staring at a blank page, once sat there two hours doing nothing but staring and holding a pencil
idklolwut12
I don’t have any advice to offer but i wish i did. I’m so sorry you were harmed as a child. Please talk to your wife, and soon.
ThisIsSteel
Sounds like you may be asexual? It took me a lot longer than it should to realize I'm also ace. As for the rest, might help to get diagnosed
BirdKeeper
Mmm i think i can be too but go to psycolog help to understand if is true?
Emperorkrulos
He is definitely asexual. Most people don't know about it because it is one of the most rare of sexualities.
sweetnaivety
I feel like asexual is at least more popular and well known than demisexual, like I am.. I always see people brig up ace but not demi
sweetnaivety
I think it's possible he may not be fully ace, just the lack of emotions and inner self which means he feels nothing intimate with someone
ThisIsSteel
Asexuality is a spectrum/umbrella term, so you don't necessarily have to be "fully" ace. I probably fall more into gray ace territory.
ThisIsSteel
But also, fair point. Locked emotions may have an impact of physical intimacy.
OdinParkour
I mean this completely and honestly. Take a psychedelic. You can grow your own mushrooms for less than 80 bucks.
tillie350
I'm intrigued by a previous post saying you had a dream about john cena. How do your dreams compare to your waking imagination ability?
chris3spice
Dreams are super clear but as soon as I wake up they are gone I can just recall what it was. Remembering dreams for me are super rare though
tillie350
That must be so frustrating. Try to remember that you are still a whole person even though you don't experience the world in the same way as
tillie350
Others. When one of my vocal cords became paralysed my ability to speak, sing (one of my passions) and even breathe easily was impacted,
tillie350
I felt like I was fading away, ceasing to be part of the same experience as others because I couldn't be part of the conversation. It's a
tillie350
Lonely experience and I'm sure you can relate to that feeling, but you have more in common with other humans than you have different, and
noReallyIamPrincessBob
Not everyone has an internal monologue. I was surprised that people DID have one. There are many work arounds for different ways of /2
noReallyIamPrincessBob
communicating or expressing oneself. These are not the problem. You need to find out who YOU are. You need to find out how to experience /3
noReallyIamPrincessBob
joy and pleasure. Find a therapist to help you find yourself. You deserve to feel more than ‘meh’. Unlock yourself. Find what makes u tick.
greatbam
So.. something’s that could help with learning is Audiobooks.
greatbam
Something that could help a lot with mood is peaceful music. Peaceful piano music helps my mind a lot as well..
greatbam
chill acoustic guitar.
greatbam
Here’s a song that might help.. https://youtu.be/k9NM-yK1C2I
mksu
I didn't read this, but you really need to see a specialist regarding your lack of conscious awareness of your thoughts.
chris3spice
I agree but can not afford one right now
pyroxferroite
Can you apply for Medical help? Medicare or Medicaid may help you afford help and therapy.
chris3spice
My wife makes just enough money I can't get help. She has good insurance but even with it here a therapist is 125 an hour.
chris3spice
Before the deductible is met though it's around 200 to 250 dollars an hour
ThisIsSteel
Damn. If it helps, I went through betterhelp when I was still going through therapy, it's online and at least cheaper than that.
Puppydonk
If you want to learn languages, steal rosetta stone just like I did, it's quick, its easy and its free, like filling your socks with water.
Zahnradfee
Whoa, so how is your study of Demotic going? Or are you doing the hieroglyphics?
Puppydonk
Look man, I can say bicycle in mandarin, and know my colors, I think Im doing pretty good.
Zahnradfee
Wait, there is Mandarin on the Rosetta stone? I think you stole something else.
Puppydonk
Oh I get the joke now, but just to clarify, I'm talking about the language learning software rosetta stone. They charge like 600 bucks
Zahnradfee
I got you. ^ ^ ... 600 is really outrageous. Who do they think can afford this?
LordChapstick
Sounds similar to aphantasia.
TheWalkinDude19
As someone with Aphantasia, if it is then it's coupled with other things that may exacerbate it.
Phlyn
didn't know this was a thing, this is definitely something i have.
never3nder
Even moreso sounds like SDAM (Severely Deficient Autobiographical Memory disorder). Basically living in third person with no emotional
never3nder
connection to your past; https://sciencebeta.com/severely-deficient-autobiographical-memory/
iamlegendinjapan
Is that where you have no internal dialogue?
iananimated
It's where if someone says "Imagine an apple" they can't see the apple in their mind.
iamlegendinjapan
Actually think I have it. I can't picture things in my mind. I can dream but I have no imagination. I can think of things that I want.
iamlegendinjapan
But I can't picture things
iananimated
So you can't see something like a pen and give it a colour and revolve it around to see it from different angles? You just think 'pen'?
mrwthisusernameisavailble
My whole life I thought everyone was being metaphorical until I learned about aphantasia a few years back.
iananimated
Wow. I can't imagine not being able to imagine.
chris3spice
I don't know if not having a voice has a word or not but I do know aphantasia.
thesecretlifeofog
My greatest help with my aphantasia is to-do lists and a journal. I am also thinking about writing a blog to document life for myself.
chris3spice
I've tried Journaling before I just stare at the page one time I sat for almost 2 hours and didn't write anything down
dasklaus
I only have a voice when actively imagining conversations. Afaik it's not that rare, just severely understudied. Try nonfiction for reading.
CYB3R57R1K3
I have aphantasia and almost the same thing I only have an internal voice when I'm reading, any music is always at a low volume.
5050Saint
It's spectrum. My bud has aphantasia and can't imagine what other people voices sound like, so his brain uses his own voice. Brains be weird
muchLongerUsername
Wait, is that not the norm? Because I definitely 'hear' myself doing an 'impression' of that person. It's not even a good one.
5050Saint
Man, who even knows what the norm is. I don't hear a particular voice unless I ascribe a voice to it.
Imadumblonde
Aphantasia has a silver lining; at least that's how I choose to think about it. I can't picture my past tramas or relive my worst memories.
CorpseStarch
on the bad end of that, there's multiple people I know with it who have caused more suicides from their actions then you'd think.
demosteness
Don’t worry about that. About 1/4 of world population don’t hear that inner voice. They kind of visualize ideas. There’s not a right 1/
demosteness
way for a brain to function. Focus on what you want/need, and the way to get it done. Love yourself and spread love. And have fun!
spookyu
I would agree that's descriptive of what you're experiencing, but couple with....maybe some ADHD and/or depression. There's some things
spookyu
that have a weird overlap. Confounds are not uncommon.
spookyu
In the same way your already identified depression causes you issues and there's some overlap, so could ADHD.