Educate me, but I have been said, you are not allowed to transport them to the ocean tide, or they do not find the way back then. They need the struggle to orientate
When we did this in Indonesia (only 10 turtles per bucket, not this many) they told us specifically to tip the bucket in the direction of the land and the turtles will see the land and remember it, and the go to the sea. So... I guess they didn't tell her that or she didn't listen.
Duude ..! @BabyFarkMcGeeZax - Hit to be a bother, but could we maybe get an epic intergalactic quality version of this? I will shower you in a single comment saying thanks lol
Could also be that they didn’t make the trip their self. I don’t remember where, but I could swear I remember seeing something about their walk to the water being a way to orient/align their self with the magnetic poles for direction/navigation. Quick search shows “It is important that the turtle hatchlings find the ocean on their own as this process lets them imprint on the beach. “
Still trying to wrap my mind around the concept of: Being born > Must find large water mass > Thrive. I know it's instinct, something us humans do not possess. But still... how??? Genetic wiring? Atmospheric pressure oppression? Salt in the air?
There's a sea turtle preservation station and government funded hatchery in south Java that I got to do this at. And we even got to see a mother turtle lay eggs the night before on the beach. We each got 10 or 11. So not always something nefarious.
At least by doing this, they’re keeping them safe from predatory birds. That’s one of the biggest hunters besides all the fish they’re going to have to deal with next.
hard to say with that link, because they do talk about survival on the beach in the same paragraph. so du those numbers include that danger or exclude it?
Given that they haven't been handled correctly, likely well below the standard 1/1000, especially if you look at evolutionary definition of survival which is "successfully reproduce"
That's what really bothers me, honestly. Seagulls waiting for the feast? Not nice, but completely natural. Light pollution luring hatchlings the wrong way? Fucked up and completely avoidable. And especially when it's combined with all the ones we eat and choke with plastic and drown in fishing gear, and all their habitat we've destroyed for houses and suntanning and commerce and climate change...... It really makes me hate humans all the more.
I took my dog on a walk by a little lake this morning, and walked past a family of ducks, with only 2 ducklings... And all I could think about was how many ducklings got eaten by fish in the lake or one of the raptors around here...
nah, they like increasing the large prey population to help increase the shark population at-or-near highly popular tourist beaches. it's a win-win for nature. so you may lose a limb, but you'll have a hell of a story of your trip to Aruba.
EDIT: just making a joke, don't attack me with shallow ocean ecology!
Harms the turtles too unless you do it properly - they need to be allowed to crawl down the beach to imprint on it, as they will return to the same beach to lay their own eggs. Releasing them directly into the sea means they're less likely to successfully continue the species.
The species that feed on baby turtles is seagulls. This is like saying it's illegal to guard your french fries as it might harm a hungry seagull. You are not allowed to help baby turtles because you would fuck it up and hurt the baby turtles.
Actually, a lot of seagull species are becoming endangered. It's a bit unclear why, but some places it seems their behaviours are changing and they are moving further inland to nest than before. One theory is that since fishing along the coast isn't as prevalent anymore(in some areas) it leaves less fish offal leftovers to the gulls. We practically kept their numbers up by fishing and tossing the leftovers.
Yup, several types of sea birds, stray dogs, some crabs, crocs if you're in an area that has them. None of them protected like sea turtles are, and all have lots of sources of food besides the very-rare event of a sea turtle hatch. Making sure predators have 0.5% more food is not the reason sea turtles are protected.
atomicsnarl
Do it at night so the birds don't see and attack them. Idiots trying to feel good instead of actually help.
PoloShirt
Educate me, but I have been said, you are not allowed to transport them to the ocean tide, or they do not find the way back then. They need the struggle to orientate
PigsCanJump
When we did this in Indonesia (only 10 turtles per bucket, not this many) they told us specifically to tip the bucket in the direction of the land and the turtles will see the land and remember it, and the go to the sea. So... I guess they didn't tell her that or she didn't listen.
Alistairetheblu
FrozenSTi
nimodium
Funny story is the first few times my kids watched this movie i thought they were saying "Mike mike mike"
joepineapplesindrag
I always thought that they were saying 'mate' because they were aussie seagulls.
k5user
GUESS WHAT DAY IT IS !?!?!?
Punintendo
Franklin666
Mr. Turtle is my dad
Cptbluebeard7
Did this in Mexico, they're very cute and something that I'll always remember fondly
TexMexHex
Cowabunga!
BoobJiggle
Duude ..!
@BabyFarkMcGeeZax - Hit to be a bother, but could we maybe get an epic intergalactic quality version of this? I will shower you in a single comment saying thanks lol
Danivuk
fastjeff
HellsHegemony
I love how there’s one baby idiot turtle that’s like fuck this. I’m not getting wet today.
zombiebatman
He’s a tortoise
3andAHalfLivesAgo
Could also be that they didn’t make the trip their self. I don’t remember where, but I could swear I remember seeing something about their walk to the water being a way to orient/align their self with the magnetic poles for direction/navigation. Quick search shows “It is important that the turtle hatchlings find the ocean on their own as this process lets them imprint on the beach. “
ThatLeftistBlackMetalWeeb
Ruuuuun! Fucking leg it!
MrStealYourGiF
TheFastpaws
And why would they have a bucket of random baby turtles?
Sebastopol140
75townecoupe
We're gonna rip it, roll it, and punch it!
pianostacatto
Still trying to wrap my mind around the concept of: Being born > Must find large water mass > Thrive.
I know it's instinct, something us humans do not possess. But still... how??? Genetic wiring? Atmospheric pressure oppression? Salt in the air?
BranDohCalrissian
"AY, SEAturtles...." "...And human hair... from my back..."
peterbozeman
I'd skip 'em. Give them a dizzy head start on life.
NKato
That would be hilarious, but also mean.
rh82
Yes officer, right here. This is the one.
tjm1226
Hey! You’re starving the seagulls! Stop fucking with nature!
FetteredJuvenescence
But seagulls are hateful demon beasts, and turtles are cute!
Jaqdakloun
I volunteered at a turtle hatchery near my home town in Mexico, but never got the chance to do this.
3rdoption
"Come and get it!"
IOftenDeleteCommentsCauseISuckAtTyping
Nature docs haven't been the same since they learned you can just cherry pick the footage where the animals survive the predator encounter.
XRay0976
Doesn't thos kinda go against the whole nature thing? Like, let it take its course, or is this some kind of rehab thing?
Ohdearaudrey
Yeah, like saving a butterfly from a spiders web
idalacn
burger of the sea
sneakypoo
So the guy in the background, that's the dude they paid to release the baby turtles he captured for a social media video, right?
PigsCanJump
There's a sea turtle preservation station and government funded hatchery in south Java that I got to do this at. And we even got to see a mother turtle lay eggs the night before on the beach. We each got 10 or 11. So not always something nefarious.
Hurro
Could be a conservation officer supervising the release. Maybe a financial program to release for a fee to support the park.
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
Could be but there is plenty of release programs and protection, though given their attire and everything else I feel like this isn't one of those
Sthawwaths
At least by doing this, they’re keeping them safe from predatory birds. That’s one of the biggest hunters besides all the fish they’re going to have to deal with next.
SoftKleenex
Releasing the snacks to the ocean life
tmphillips11
Imagine trying to shit a shell.
countbassy
Nah. Ya just suck the meat out
XRay0976
That's what she said
forreference
Woof, that's gotta hurt!
michiyl
zackingsman
What kind of ocean creatures suck? asking for friends
countbassy
Lampreys
XRay0976
Starfish with their mouths in the middle underside of their body
michiyl
captainnewbi
what percent survive after making it into the ocean?
giraffinator
Unfortunately they're probably all toast
xirbitzy
About 1 in 1000
https://oceanservice.noaa.gov/news/june15/sea-turtles.html#:~:text=Few%20survive%20to%20adulthood%2C%20with,to%20be%2050%2D100%20years.
captainnewbi
hard to say with that link, because they do talk about survival on the beach in the same paragraph. so du those numbers include that danger or exclude it?
xirbitzy
I think it includes it. I think it's hard to track the little ones once they make it to the ocean
captainnewbi
i know that it's why I wonder
OddOod
Given that they haven't been handled correctly, likely well below the standard 1/1000, especially if you look at evolutionary definition of survival which is "successfully reproduce"
Astral134
A turtle has made it to the water!
davesaint01930
Ugh. The quest in voldun on the northern coast would crash my game every time I tried to do it.
rh82
Good fish gather in droves!
AHornyRhino
Alientongue
Was scrolling hoping to see this. Thank you fellow azeroth explorer.
BeTheMirage
I want you to know i took great pleasure in killing those turtles.
BabyWitchErika
The cycle of life can be cruel.
WatcherintheShadows
CHAMPYUN!
whodathunkit
THE WOOOONDS!
Leucienweaver
CHAMPYON, SOME FUCKWAFFLE IS SIPHONIN' DA AZUUUURITE! GO INVERT THEIR KNEECAPS, YA WEE WEAPON
titaniumsnail
No. Nope. No. I am not thrilled he will be back in War Within. I have his voice lines burned into my mind.
StandingOutsideABrokenPhoneBoothWithMoneyInMyHand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pNpwqkmN54
titaniumsnail
Oh heeeell no. *locks door even more*
Leucienweaver
Apparently he and Azeroth had a spat, because she took away his Speaker powers.
SilkyAvenger
the WOONS
schtomp
I will never see baby turtles without being re-traumatized from that fucking 80 nature program showing them getting gobbled up.
RedJacketHero
Or a perfectly ethical Marine biologist. The world may never know.
LordBarringtonBunks
Or the docu showing hatchlings being confused by nearby human lights, going that way and dying, rather than heading towards moonlit water.
LoitninStroik
That's what really bothers me, honestly. Seagulls waiting for the feast? Not nice, but completely natural. Light pollution luring hatchlings the wrong way? Fucked up and completely avoidable. And especially when it's combined with all the ones we eat and choke with plastic and drown in fishing gear, and all their habitat we've destroyed for houses and suntanning and commerce and climate change...... It really makes me hate humans all the more.
BobRossHB
That's nature baby, we all is food sooner or later.
NCDoofus
Predator satiation as a species survival strategy.
Feralkyn
Not sure it's "satiation" so much as "oversaturation" lol
MadamPuddifoot
I took my dog on a walk by a little lake this morning, and walked past a family of ducks, with only 2 ducklings... And all I could think about was how many ducklings got eaten by fish in the lake or one of the raptors around here...
tanfin123fs9
I saw one lose to a starfish and had to put my head down.
endfreq
What you didn't see were the 40 baby turtles that lady ate before filming!
dan9ie24
Yep that fucked me right up I remember screaming at my mother to turn it off
schtomp
Whew! Made it past the crabs and seagulls, aaaaaand now sharks....
AzgarOgly
Because that how nature works. And edutainment back then was more about "edu" and not "tainment" like it is today.
RealTobeyMaguire
Oh they had more than their fair share of tainment without the edu "back then" as well
LoitninStroik
Yeah, who doesn't remember the fucking lemming launches off the cliff? That was zero "edu" and 100% "tainment."
AzgarOgly
but it taught the meaning of "100000 lemmings cannot be wrong" saying
VashTehStampede
I still like people helping to improve the odds for sea turtles.
KareemCheezItz
The odds of getting gobbled up
studog2010
Some of the gobbling occurs on their trek between hatching and water, which the humans have helpfully removed. So their odds have in fact decreased.
NarratesTheDarkerStory
nah, they like increasing the large prey population to help increase the shark population at-or-near highly popular tourist beaches. it's a win-win for nature. so you may lose a limb, but you'll have a hell of a story of your trip to Aruba.
EDIT: just making a joke, don't attack me with shallow ocean ecology!
ZuluAssault9
Nah imma call Poseidon and hit you with that Deep Ocean Mythology!
beez428
We need to find a way to make the yacht-sinking whales work with the sharks instead of eating them
VashTehStampede
I laughed. Thanks for noting the jest!
Sascylle
Oh.. am I very evil for wanting to see that now?
FireSolvesProblems
That depends, did you watch lots of 80s kids movies growing up?
Sascylle
I.. uh.. yes?
FireSolvesProblems
Then I'd say no. But I've always thought the boat scene of Willy Wonka was fun.
mywanderingways
Yes. Definitely.
BeaverOnFire
NKato
No, actually. It's called understanding fucking reality.
vegivamp
It is, but it's also called a joke. You know, those things that make that nice wooshing sound as they go over your head.
BearUnhinged
Lucky you mentioned it was a joke. I was ready to shoot my dog for being untrained.
NKato
Yes. That does tend to happen.
Undumpable
Seems like having a bucket of sea turtles would be illegal somehow
ImperatorNikolai
I think in some places you are not allowed to help the baby turtles as it could harm the species that feed on them
AzgarOgly
really? allowing the nature to do nature thing? that's disgusting!
Showsni
Harms the turtles too unless you do it properly - they need to be allowed to crawl down the beach to imprint on it, as they will return to the same beach to lay their own eggs. Releasing them directly into the sea means they're less likely to successfully continue the species.
SoManyWhales2
The species that feed on baby turtles is seagulls. This is like saying it's illegal to guard your french fries as it might harm a hungry seagull. You are not allowed to help baby turtles because you would fuck it up and hurt the baby turtles.
ImperatorNikolai
Yeah I’ve seen crabs too (I generally try to avoid watching stuff like that)
titaniumsnail
Actually, a lot of seagull species are becoming endangered. It's a bit unclear why, but some places it seems their behaviours are changing and they are moving further inland to nest than before. One theory is that since fishing along the coast isn't as prevalent anymore(in some areas) it leaves less fish offal leftovers to the gulls. We practically kept their numbers up by fishing and tossing the leftovers.
Rediix
There are plenty of species that feed off baby turtles
SoManyWhales2
Yup, several types of sea birds, stray dogs, some crabs, crocs if you're in an area that has them. None of them protected like sea turtles are, and all have lots of sources of food besides the very-rare event of a sea turtle hatch. Making sure predators have 0.5% more food is not the reason sea turtles are protected.