Should offer then Mapa Tofu instead. That would greatly reduce the suicide rate because they will realise if they dead they can't have any more Mapo Tofu.
As a schoolteacher, I was given a motivational lesson about being strong during difficult times to share with my homeroom class. As a recent widower, I knew that the lesson was some bullshit written by someone whose most challenging experience was figuring out what to eat for breakfast on a Saturday. I could see it in some of my students' eyes as well—that deep disdain for the bullshit woven for those with trauma by those who have never experienced it.
"Suicide attempts increased in the following years, from 11 attempts in 2011 (before installation) and 15 in 2012 (the year it was installed) to 184 in 2014, due in part to heightened publicity."
My boss recognized that everyone was struggling to manage life/work balance and were burnt out and overworked, so he started sending our feel good quotes on Tuesdays that remind us to not worry about it too much.
"Eh, it was worth a shot" and the psychologists who published studies on the ways to improve mental health and prevent suicide - which the city officials never contacted because they thought they'd use whatever their own common sense dictates, shake their heads.
My city opened a new bridge and, in the first few months, a bunch of suicides. Now they have nets between the lanes and big ass poles along the outside. Ugly as fuck but it keeps people from jumping.
"In April 2019, the bridge averaged someone committing suicide once a month, which resulted in Burgoyne Bridge having the second-highest suicide rate in North America"
In a culture where "working yourself to death" is common, and is the primary reason why people cannot afford to start a family...placing images of children is not the wisest idea. Instead of being life affirming, it sound more like a taunt.
"Just look at all these children. You wanted to have children, didn't you? But you are so physically, mentally, and emotionally drained by over-work that you cannot start a family? Well, look at what society denied you. Feel better yet?"
I for oner would not kill myself. id set things on fire first and go out after killing those that put me here, and did NOTHING to help me or others out of the situation, sorta like a healthcare ceo for example
Adding to that, I recall reading somewhere that there is a lot of pressure for them to have children because there is a fear of population collapse in the coming decades. So, they couldn't have children even if they wanted to because the extreme work culture inhibits families, but they are simultaneously pressured into making kids they don't have time or energy for. Talk about damned if you do and damned if you don't.
In 2022, a lady stopped a younger woman jumping, even though the younger woman had used one of the installed phones that goes straight to a suicide line. Their conversation:
When I was depressed from not being able to have kids... the thing that could drive me more toward suicide is all that bullshit on that bridge. Let me be in pain. Let me cry. Don't show me the things in life others are thriving off of. It doesn't help the people suffering. It just makes them realize how much more they are missing parts of life worth living for.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mapo_Bridge?wprov=sfla1 dude as you walked along the bridge it had motion sensor to activate light of signs or have speakers with phrases, but some of the phrases were "try it, then" and worse "ha ha ha ha ha" it failed hard.
"They will appreciate the jovial mood-lifting qualities of digitally reproduced human laughter coming from invisible speakers, especially at night! We are good at our jobs!" - Samsung, who did all the tech stuff.
"Positivity made it worse. Maybe negativity will work!"
Most suicide attempts are impulsive. If you can get someone to not act NOW, you can often talk them down. (This still leaves the underlying issue, obviously.)
I once had a friend call me at 3AM on a bridge. I told him bridge jumpers generally live and rectal rupturing was pretty common. (True stuff.) Might not be the best way, but he's still with his wife - who was pregnant at the time - ten years later.
If you can break the chain that leads to the attempt you get time to work on the bigger thing.
Unfortunately with male suicide - which I mention because it's the area I have some experience with - as a society we don't really have much support in place to do the bigger gluing back together work.
(Lots of, 'Suicide is selfish!' guilt to go around though.)
Spot suicides are things people do on impulses. It's why what works better is a tall rail/fence that's hard to climb. They'll take 5 extra seconds and go fuck it it's not worth it.
If you think you're at a point where its constantly a bad time being alive and not going to get better then it probably seems like it is. People have legit medical reasons for doing so as well.
There's high plexi-glass (or however you're supposed to spell it) walls part of the way along a pedestrian bridge over the railyard. For a while I wondered why they don't go all the way - it's fairly high (not high enough to suicide) almost all the way. Then I realized that it's to stop stupid people from jumping onto the trains passing underneath and immediately getting zapped to death by arcing. Barriers don't just prevent wilful suicide, but also inadvertent suicide.
Same as suicides increasing around holiday times that are family-oriented - everyone is bombarded with images of happy families and good times, and to those on the edge with none of that it probably feels like society is taunting you.
I think it's more likely that this was just the effect of calling attention to the bridge as a suicide hotspot meaning more people chose to end their lives there rather than somewhere else. Probably a bigger effect than having a larger proportion of people who were considering suicide at that spot deciding to follow through on their thoughts
I mean, Gremlins is a movie and movies play loose with facts. I do have a personal bias, considering someone in my area offed themselves in December a few days before Christmas. Their kid hated Christmas ever since (and was in my school). But I try not to let personal bias fallacies overrule statistical evidence.
Yep. I've lost nearly my entire family, and the handful I have left are getting close. Holidays suck, and I usually just stay in bed until they're over. I avoid social media around holidays because seeing everyone with their big, happy families doing things together makes me hurt thinking about how I've lost all of mine. The woes of being born into a family of people already older.
Scrooge was a money grubbing asshole that wanted his workers working on Christmas and holidays. There's a difference between that and not finding anything reverent anymore about the holiday.
"Suicide rate going up around the holidays" is just a really weirdly persistent myth, with no info to back it up. Like, at all.
More info, and there's a lot more like it. https://www.annenbergpublicpolicycenter.org/suicide-rate-is-low-during-the-holidays-but-the-holiday-suicide-myth-persists/
"Suicide attempts increased in the following years, from 11 attempts in 2011 (before installation) and 15 in 2012 (the year it was installed) to 184 in 2014 [..]"
I wonder how much of the increase had to do with the press surrounding the photos. People didn’t know it was a good suicide spot until all the news about it…
It went from "it's a bridge, people jump off bridges, it's not really about the bridge it's about mental health" to "now it's definitely also about the bridge".
It's especially crazy because bridges are more than infrastructure in Korea - they are often architectural masterpieces and are often brightly, and magically illuminated at night.
But I guess 'high place is high place' when you are feeling that sick.
Yep. When I was questioning if I should exist, that stuff just made it worse. It was actual personal things from people that knew me that truly helped.
Toxic positivity. When people say "Cheer up", what they're really saying is "don't be sad around me, you're bringing me down." Turn that frown upside down (so I don't have to look at it anymore) is all they're really saying.
So you're saying the: You can do it! I believe in you! There's no time like the present! Sore like an eagle! and such should be removed from the bridge?
As someone who struggles with depression, yes, I can honestly say it does. In my case, whenever someone tries to give me any sort of positive commentary, it feels like I'm being told lies, even if it's the truth - to me, a compliment hurts as much as a complaint, and a complaint, to me, is as painful as being kicked in the proverbial family jewels.
Are you neurospicy? I’ve got ADD and others and the emotional disregulation - coupled with a traumatic and abusive childhood - has me feeling the entire way you described
I’ve been told by multiple therapists that I need CBT (I’m trying) and that electroshock would help. I’m so chronic they wanna zap my brain and basically start over lol
I also want to try ketamine - I hear microdoses can help.
I say all this because I relate to how you feel and want you to know there might be solutions
Toxic positivity. Many Americans are under the influence of those sickness of “New thought”. Basically it’s a syndrome of cult and we all should be very careful about it
there's a pair of tweets that often shows up in mental health dumps that goes "maybe I can gaslight myself into feeling okay... wait this is just cognitive behavioural therapy" and yes, yes it is
It's incredibly harmful and pushes a toxic rhetoric which creates a stigma around mental health, framing it as a personal flaw instead of a legitimate health issue.
Telling someone with depression to "think positively" is like telling someone with a broken leg to just "wiggle their toes".
It just makes the person suffering feel even worse.
Cool bro can you please pass me that gun? There’s something I’ve been meaning to do and you just gave me the final fucking nail.
I hate people that espouse the idea that suicide is selfish. Do you know what selfish? Asking people who are suffering all of the time and who have tried to fix it and who cannot fix it to continue to live so that you don’t feel bad.
And to anyone else out there suffering, living each day in pain, being told it’s “selfish” - it isn’t. Those who say that have never felt the pain we feel wresting with whether or not we deserve to live or deserve happiness.
But understand: something you do brings light to the people around you. Something only you do will be missed. Please ask for help from someone who can help you before you take that final step past all help.
Day after someone jumped at a place I was documenting photos of, had selfish assholes in the elevator sniffling and whining about “it was so horrible and ruined my day, I had to leave” great…. So glad someone jumping ruined your worthless existence, maybe you need a trip up to where they jumped and a hard shove… Christ
Always the way, I’ve heard people whining bc of a jumper, iirc they got stuck in traffic while the authorities were trying to talk them down. Like wow, you got inconvenienced for a couple hours, that must have been so hard for you. No compassion for the person in pain. Pretty sure they said something like ‘couldn’t they jump when it’s not rush hour?’ :/
TheLookAndFeelMUSIC
Should offer then Mapa Tofu instead. That would greatly reduce the suicide rate because they will realise if they dead they can't have any more Mapo Tofu.
polymoth87
What does the banner say, Live Laugh Love?
thornedrose27
Maybe they should work on helping those that need it.
epicallyefficientflower
As a schoolteacher, I was given a motivational lesson about being strong during difficult times to share with my homeroom class. As a recent widower, I knew that the lesson was some bullshit written by someone whose most challenging experience was figuring out what to eat for breakfast on a Saturday. I could see it in some of my students' eyes as well—that deep disdain for the bullshit woven for those with trauma by those who have never experienced it.
PicassoCT
Oh, a social problem? That calls for a immediate discussion and a rushed paint-overjob. Puh, could have led to change.. good thing we prevented that..
OobedoobScoobyDoobyBenubi
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SkippyTheBrit
https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1M2M3aHM5OW5vdmhjdXhyaGN0cXk3ZTB2bXh0eGt4OTltbWJ0bHNpbSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/hCmt5ruSaNX5ho5vSu/200w.webp
bladderinfection
Efficient https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTY1YjkxZmJlZHNqY2pxNjdzaHYydWNucmRzZ24ybnh2dWU1MHR2MDhsc2RuYWg1dSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/rHR8qP1mC5V3G/200w.mp4
SenselessSentiments
"Suicide attempts increased in the following years, from 11 attempts in 2011 (before installation) and 15 in 2012 (the year it was installed) to 184 in 2014, due in part to heightened publicity."
MediocreExtremist
copycats ...
Becker37
Last thing I want to hear is someone trying to tell me this shit will be ok. Makes me feel fucking crazy.
thisistheusernamethatneverendss
My boss recognized that everyone was struggling to manage life/work balance and were burnt out and overworked, so he started sending our feel good quotes on Tuesdays that remind us to not worry about it too much.
CitrusyGarlic
"Oh look, my government has plenty of money when it comes to decorating bridges, but no money to help me"
TeelMoobeel
Korea's spiral into doom is like watching an entire nation in a slow-mo train wreck.
SilverStarling
If you want people to stop yeeting themselves off the bridge, make it more difficult to do. LIFE IS GOOD "Mine's not, I'm gonna check out now, bye."
draek1
Maybe they should have just put money on it.
Lurch1911
“Eh, it was worth a shot.” -City officials most likely.
MaleProstateMilker88
"Eh, it was worth a shot" and the psychologists who published studies on the ways to improve mental health and prevent suicide - which the city officials never contacted because they thought they'd use whatever their own common sense dictates, shake their heads.
cousteau
Setting the example for efficiency.
Niagaran
My city opened a new bridge and, in the first few months, a bunch of suicides. Now they have nets between the lanes and big ass poles along the outside. Ugly as fuck but it keeps people from jumping.
"In April 2019, the bridge averaged someone committing suicide once a month, which resulted in Burgoyne Bridge having the second-highest suicide rate in North America"
Hmuda
In a culture where "working yourself to death" is common, and is the primary reason why people cannot afford to start a family...placing images of children is not the wisest idea. Instead of being life affirming, it sound more like a taunt.
"Just look at all these children. You wanted to have children, didn't you? But you are so physically, mentally, and emotionally drained by over-work that you cannot start a family? Well, look at what society denied you. Feel better yet?"
RooGryphon
I for oner would not kill myself. id set things on fire first and go out after killing those that put me here, and did NOTHING to help me or others out of the situation, sorta like a healthcare ceo for example
defensivebackhair
Adding to that, I recall reading somewhere that there is a lot of pressure for them to have children because there is a fear of population collapse in the coming decades. So, they couldn't have children even if they wanted to because the extreme work culture inhibits families, but they are simultaneously pressured into making kids they don't have time or energy for. Talk about damned if you do and damned if you don't.
Hmuda
Japan is in the same shoes, only Korea is a little bit ahead in the demographic-collapse race.
Telemapus
In 2022, a lady stopped a younger woman jumping, even though the younger woman had used one of the installed phones that goes straight to a suicide line. Their conversation:
Telemapus
From: https://www.koreaherald.com/article/3029872
Alaaraaf
While that's an awful story, it's a lovely example of, "Look for the helpers."
epistlero
South Korea is the good one right?
Lucallia
I mean they have infrastructure at all so you know it's not the bad one.
blairdavies350
아이들이 당신을 필요로 하기 때문에 당신은 할 수 있습니다
ILike2TouchButts
When I was depressed from not being able to have kids... the thing that could drive me more toward suicide is all that bullshit on that bridge. Let me be in pain. Let me cry. Don't show me the things in life others are thriving off of. It doesn't help the people suffering. It just makes them realize how much more they are missing parts of life worth living for.
CobainsSarcoma
cheer up, asshole!
get confident, stupid!
hope you know what you're doing, wouldn't want to have one more thing you suck at!
EndocrineResearcher
But statues and paint is cheap, changing people's material conditions is hard.
zeacorzeppelin10
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mapo_Bridge?wprov=sfla1 dude as you walked along the bridge it had motion sensor to activate light of signs or have speakers with phrases, but some of the phrases were "try it, then" and worse "ha ha ha ha ha" it failed hard.
Teneksi
what. WHY?
Telemapus
"They will appreciate the jovial mood-lifting qualities of digitally reproduced human laughter coming from invisible speakers, especially at night! We are good at our jobs!" - Samsung, who did all the tech stuff.
Alaaraaf
"Positivity made it worse. Maybe negativity will work!"
Most suicide attempts are impulsive. If you can get someone to not act NOW, you can often talk them down. (This still leaves the underlying issue, obviously.)
I once had a friend call me at 3AM on a bridge. I told him bridge jumpers generally live and rectal rupturing was pretty common. (True stuff.) Might not be the best way, but he's still with his wife - who was pregnant at the time - ten years later.
Alaaraaf
If you can break the chain that leads to the attempt you get time to work on the bigger thing.
Unfortunately with male suicide - which I mention because it's the area I have some experience with - as a society we don't really have much support in place to do the bigger gluing back together work.
(Lots of, 'Suicide is selfish!' guilt to go around though.)
jeejeejerrycotton
Yeah I don't think reminding people who are already in a bad way about all the things they don't have is going to have a positive impact.
darkstarmc
Spot suicides are things people do on impulses. It's why what works better is a tall rail/fence that's hard to climb. They'll take 5 extra seconds and go fuck it it's not worth it.
jeejeejerrycotton
I should think suicide is one of those things where it's never worth the effort.
astrangehop
If you think you're at a point where its constantly a bad time being alive and not going to get better then it probably seems like it is. People have legit medical reasons for doing so as well.
darkstarmc
People lick electrical outlets. Our judgement isn't always great and impulse is insane.
jeejeejerrycotton
There's high plexi-glass (or however you're supposed to spell it) walls part of the way along a pedestrian bridge over the railyard. For a while I wondered why they don't go all the way - it's fairly high (not high enough to suicide) almost all the way. Then I realized that it's to stop stupid people from jumping onto the trains passing underneath and immediately getting zapped to death by arcing. Barriers don't just prevent wilful suicide, but also inadvertent suicide.
ToasterDent
Same as suicides increasing around holiday times that are family-oriented - everyone is bombarded with images of happy families and good times, and to those on the edge with none of that it probably feels like society is taunting you.
Beldie
Insert Ted from Scrubs "Why do they get to be happy" meme.
Youhavinagiraffe
I think it's more likely that this was just the effect of calling attention to the bridge as a suicide hotspot meaning more people chose to end their lives there rather than somewhere else. Probably a bigger effect than having a larger proportion of people who were considering suicide at that spot deciding to follow through on their thoughts
eepsheep
This was actually the exact reason. The story popularized the bridge's previous 'effectiveness' of the task.
bustyalexa
Contrary to popular belief, the number of suicides do not increase during the holiday season or winter months.
WarlockSniper
Gremlins actually addressed this. A goddamned comedy/horror from the fucking 80's.
A LOT of suicides happen at "big family holidays" like Christmas.
TheManWhoStaresAtTurtles
Prooobably shouldn't get info from the Gremlins, since it's not true. It's just a persistent myth.
Here's one link, from a search chock full of them. https://www.annenbergpublicpolicycenter.org/suicide-rate-is-low-during-the-holidays-but-the-holiday-suicide-myth-persists/
... many of them hilariously titled things like "dispelling the myth once and for all". But this has been known to be BS for decades.
WarlockSniper
I mean, Gremlins is a movie and movies play loose with facts.
I do have a personal bias, considering someone in my area offed themselves in December a few days before Christmas. Their kid hated Christmas ever since (and was in my school). But I try not to let personal bias fallacies overrule statistical evidence.
Radtastical
Yep. I've lost nearly my entire family, and the handful I have left are getting close. Holidays suck, and I usually just stay in bed until they're over. I avoid social media around holidays because seeing everyone with their big, happy families doing things together makes me hurt thinking about how I've lost all of mine. The woes of being born into a family of people already older.
DrSchlepenstein
Same. I don't celebrate anything anymore. To me it's just another day. I understand why Scrooge was always bah-humbug to everything around Christmas.
johnvictor
Scrooge was a money grubbing asshole that wanted his workers working on Christmas and holidays. There's a difference between that and not finding anything reverent anymore about the holiday.
TheManWhoStaresAtTurtles
https://www.annenbergpublicpolicycenter.org/wp-content/uploads/Suicide_deaths_per_day_by_mo_202310-1140x1198.png CDC data, Nov is ranked 11, Dec is ranked 12.
"Suicide rate going up around the holidays" is just a really weirdly persistent myth, with no info to back it up. Like, at all.
More info, and there's a lot more like it. https://www.annenbergpublicpolicycenter.org/suicide-rate-is-low-during-the-holidays-but-the-holiday-suicide-myth-persists/
jasondeslin
Beat me to it. You need to be upvoted more. I'm so sick of people spreading this bullshit.
ToasterDent
Oh interesting - TIL
Nalianna
3 days until the anniversary of my wife's deportation. i'm not doing well.
ToasterDent
I'm not a trained professional but this is the best I have: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rj5UZbbb_qg
Emjayen
"Suicide attempts increased in the following years, from 11 attempts in 2011 (before installation) and 15 in 2012 (the year it was installed) to 184 in 2014 [..]"
SmaugTheTerrible61
I wonder how much of the increase had to do with the press surrounding the photos. People didn’t know it was a good suicide spot until all the news about it…
VodkaReindeer
How interesting is a news story about photos and text being added to a bridge, really? It's the increase that makes anyone interested, I think.
eepsheep
Correct. They basically marketed how 'effective' it was if not also creating a new cultural norm similar to the suicide woods in japan.
Harm
Dying from spite < dying out of spite.
ThadisJones
Me: "OK 11 suicides to 15 suicides doesn't sound like a statistically significant increase..."
Marsupialmessiah
To 184....
PanNonOpticon
So it isn¨t just a statistical error coming out of small sample size
Telemapus
It went from "it's a bridge, people jump off bridges, it's not really about the bridge it's about mental health" to "now it's definitely also about the bridge".
eepsheep
It's especially crazy because bridges are more than infrastructure in Korea - they are often architectural masterpieces and are often brightly, and magically illuminated at night.
But I guess 'high place is high place' when you are feeling that sick.
OutboardOverlord
Pretty sure "motivational" quotes and all that other "positive thinking" bullshit has the same effect.
HandoB4Javert
TheGreatSynan
Yep. When I was questioning if I should exist, that stuff just made it worse. It was actual personal things from people that knew me that truly helped.
TsukariYoshi
Toxic positivity. When people say "Cheer up", what they're really saying is "don't be sad around me, you're bringing me down." Turn that frown upside down (so I don't have to look at it anymore) is all they're really saying.
gobnaitOLunacy
Live, laugh, load again.
OmnesMundiLardum
So you're saying the:
You can do it!
I believe in you!
There's no time like the present!
Sore like an eagle!
and such should be removed from the bridge?
OutboardOverlord
I feel so, so bad for laughing at this...
SierraD421
As someone who struggles with depression, yes, I can honestly say it does. In my case, whenever someone tries to give me any sort of positive commentary, it feels like I'm being told lies, even if it's the truth - to me, a compliment hurts as much as a complaint, and a complaint, to me, is as painful as being kicked in the proverbial family jewels.
thisismyumpteenthaccount
Are you neurospicy? I’ve got ADD and others and the emotional disregulation - coupled with a traumatic and abusive childhood - has me feeling the entire way you described
I’ve been told by multiple therapists that I need CBT (I’m trying) and that electroshock would help. I’m so chronic they wanna zap my brain and basically start over lol
I also want to try ketamine - I hear microdoses can help.
I say all this because I relate to how you feel and want you to know there might be solutions
CorgiInALilBlackDress
Time to highly tax the rich and religions. Raise minimum wage. Mandatory benefits.
- to lower the workload and increase quality of life.
- Guarantee health and mental care.
- Free PS Education
- to educate our children early and throughout schooling about mental health and coping strategies.
- Remove fascist ideologies trying to conserve this cycle of work work work sleep work work sleep till death.
Time to change. Time to put the service back into government.
Raikupath
toxic positivity is a thing.
fuguri
Toxic positivity. Many Americans are under the influence of those sickness of “New thought”. Basically it’s a syndrome of cult and we all should be very careful about it
houghten
there's a pair of tweets that often shows up in mental health dumps that goes "maybe I can gaslight myself into feeling okay... wait this is just cognitive behavioural therapy" and yes, yes it is
IAmTheBadW01f
"hang in there!" (On the outside, for those still dangling)
MuffinProof
Should put memes and funny stuff there.
TheDoctorCrankenstein
There is a reason the sub "ThanksImCured" exists.
It's incredibly harmful and pushes a toxic rhetoric which creates a stigma around mental health, framing it as a personal flaw instead of a legitimate health issue.
Telling someone with depression to "think positively" is like telling someone with a broken leg to just "wiggle their toes".
It just makes the person suffering feel even worse.
thisismyumpteenthaccount
“you’re selfish to even think of suicide”
Cool bro can you please pass me that gun? There’s something I’ve been meaning to do and you just gave me the final fucking nail.
I hate people that espouse the idea that suicide is selfish. Do you know what selfish? Asking people who are suffering all of the time and who have tried to fix it and who cannot fix it to continue to live so that you don’t feel bad.
eathotdog
"Yea but have you tried meditation and yooga, WHAT DO YOU HAVE TO BE SAD!™ ABOUT" just end me
thisismyumpteenthaccount
“Don’t you know there are people with it worse than you? You should be grateful!”
Should be, aren’t. Always a failure. End me.
People are the worst.
sofako41404
I've found that the people who call it selfish are the same people who have to make everything about them.
eathotdog
What they mean is it would make them personally sad and they are the whole world
TheDoctorCrankenstein
Dude real.
Like "oh I'm selfish? Cool, thanks for validating my self-depreciating thoughts. All the more reason for me to go through with it then."
My most hated is "oh it's just all in your head" like... No shit? That's why it's called "mental illness". Fucking dingbats.
thisismyumpteenthaccount
Exactly correct.
And to anyone else out there suffering, living each day in pain, being told it’s “selfish” - it isn’t. Those who say that have never felt the pain we feel wresting with whether or not we deserve to live or deserve happiness.
But understand: something you do brings light to the people around you. Something only you do will be missed. Please ask for help from someone who can help you before you take that final step past all help.
The world is better with you in it, I promise
mohavewolfpup
Day after someone jumped at a place I was documenting photos of, had selfish assholes in the elevator sniffling and whining about “it was so horrible and ruined my day, I had to leave” great…. So glad someone jumping ruined your worthless existence, maybe you need a trip up to where they jumped and a hard shove… Christ
ennead
Always the way, I’ve heard people whining bc of a jumper, iirc they got stuck in traffic while the authorities were trying to talk them down. Like wow, you got inconvenienced for a couple hours, that must have been so hard for you. No compassion for the person in pain. Pretty sure they said something like ‘couldn’t they jump when it’s not rush hour?’ :/