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stonecoldstevebuschemi
Also, this guy kinda sounds like Alan Alda.
keturn
How old was his audience at this event?
DonkeyGoat
That dude's voice does not match his look.
Noahbalboa82
How many kids will understand Wiimote control? That's life, man. Also, touchscreen control seems like a good idea for some types of games, but not everything. I don't hate touchscreen controls for the sake of hating it, I just didn't grow up on ot
AtsaMattaForMe
gablestout
SteelKnight
The dude knows his business but also this sorta snacks of "young people today >:(" to me, I'm sure they will know what a controller is soon enough, video games outside of phone games are still a trillion dollar industry
welluhwhatdoyouwantmetosay
mytruepersonality
this made me incredibly sad. i just had my 33 birthday and have no retirement funds. im in trouble.
LawFiveGuy
10 years ago, I rented a car and my 12 year old and I went to pick it up. There was a strange smell, and I asked her to roll down the window. I didn't hear anything and a minute later I asked her to roll down the window and she said she can't. I looked on my armrest for the child safety feature and realized it was a crank window. She didn't roll down her window because she had never seen a crank-type window before and didn't know what the handle was for.
thoushaltnotpass
It's already a weird name "rolling down a window" for pressing a button... we have the same in French, "passer un coup de fil" (hitting you with a wire) for giving a phone call
YourFellowMan
“You mean you have to use your hands? That like a babies toy.”
lightfantasticem172
my gods his voice is something I could listen to forever haha
Yakeshinu
unclesporky
How do you square this with sales numbers for games consoles like the Switch?
nero4ty2
Not denying his story but kids get chromebooks in Kindergarten around me, most have a wireless mouse too and I’ve never seen a kid that does not know how to use a controller
Schlumpfi
Isn't this the guy that dislikes the efforts in the EU to have the right to play your games after the studio droppes support? They try to force the studio to leave the game in a "running order", and don't want to force them to support it indefinitely - just leave it an a running state. And...this person...dislikes this idea. Well, If that's the guy, i pretty much dislike him.
MissivesFromTheTower
@OP, I just want to thank you for posting this. Looked into the channel, and there seems to be a lot of things I will find interesting.
ScottNapalm
Thor is both really funny and also a very wholesome wealth of advice and knowledge. Strongly recommend his content.
access
I bet they know what in app purchase and micro transactions are though.
till231331415
Ea made sure of that. It’s in the game.
DVSBSTrD
Great parenting!
ToolmanTR
I think it’s more about the parents than the direction the world is going. I play on the switch with my older daughter. She fully knows what a controller is and so do the kids of all my friends because we all play games.
RickRollEditor
I'm fine with it, because more and more FPS games accept cross devices now, and even I as a 44 year old dude with crap reflexes absolutely DESTROYS younglings that play with controllers. It is glorious. I can't count the times I've been called a cheater because I simply can instantly move my mouse to aim.
till231331415
Yet my kid literally hates a controller. Had a wasd shirt in grade school. Had to explain it to classmates.
minqapoc
Friend of mine was furious that we kept kicking his ass in games. Then.he learned about gaming mice and their ridiculous settings and that you can get used to them.
ModernTenshi04
In some games a controller is usually preferred because of aim assist. I think most or all professional CoD players play on a controller because the aim assist is available even in PC lobbies and gives a huge edge, even against KB&M players. I think Apex recently updated the game to offer less aim assist to controller players in PC/cross play lobbies. Overwatch 2 only lets console players have AA in non-competitive cross play lobbies, and no AA for PC players using a controller in any game mode.
minqapoc
Aim assist doesn't mean shit if you can't turn fast enough
drakionx
This guy makes good points on his channels, but he is trying to kill fair use initiatives for videogames, which irks me.
spitfires2000
A touch screen is a screen AND a controller. In one, you see.
Alurkerforcedtologin
But worse at both, usually.
ourari
No, I love blocking my view of the screen with my hand so I can give imprecise input! /s
h41fgod
It is not even a tool, its a consumption interface.
Wasnbo
On top of everything else, I can imagine it's cheaper to get a couple tablets or smartphones, instead of one gaming console which dominates the TV space (assuming a TV/TV space is also feasible).
Fargus57
Where were the 50% of the kids who didn't know what a controller is on day 1?
UnluckyScarecrow
They would have seen a keyboard on their phone screen and maybe attempted to use it; just very poorly, probably
slackboy722000
#shitthatneverhappened
zetzmemp
I assume some kind of convention where he had a demo of his game set up.
Fargus57
That much is obvious. I was (jokingly) pointing out that he mentions that on Day 1, kids didn't know what to do with the keyboard/mouse but could use the controller. No mention of touch screen kids for Day 1. Seemed odd to me that apparently touch screen kids apparently didn't show up in any significant numbers until day 2.
GiraffaPontifex
Maybe the problem is, half of parents can't afford a gaming console, but have a mobile phone out of necessity that the kids sometimes use.
Yakeshinu
Tangentially, a large portion of undergraduates, particularly underclassmen, are writing their papers on their phones.
It usually begins to taper off a bit, particular in the STEM and other high research areas, but it's definitely noticable.
At higher levels, though, it's just not feasible. It's practically impossible to write a thesis/research/publishable paper entirely on a phone and have it appear even remotely presentable in the end.
Or at least I haven't seen/heard of it being done. Yet.
someguy7734206
One thing I've started thinking about is: since phones these days are already so absurdly powerful, someone should make some sort of docking device that allows you to connect them to a keyboard, mouse, and monitor, essentially allowing you to entirely replace your PC. I've seen videos out there of someone emulating GTA 5 on a Galaxy S24.
iregretthisusernamealready
That already exists and I don’t think you need a separate docking device. I’m not big on mobile devices, but I know the Librem 5 was advertising prominently how you could just plug it into a monitor and KB/M and use the full-fledged operating system it ran on.
Yakeshinu
Hrm. I have a USB-C portable monitor that works with my phone, and I know that I can connect a BT Xbox controller to the phone as well, so I'm not absolutely sure but I'll bet that I could pair a BT mouse/keyboard to it as well.
JanglesPrime
That is something I can believe. I've heard of a few writers that have written novels on phones while commuting.
sadurdaynight
Phone w google voice or whatever, they just dictate their paper, then run it through chatgpt to clean it up and revise. If folks think "omg that's cheating" that's literally what researchers have been doing for ages. Talk into a tape recorder while doing research then hand it to an asst to transcribe notes, clean it up, revise. It's just folks can do that all on their own now.
IGotMyDreamJobProgrammingGames
Jesus I would rather slam my head in a car door than write an essay in a touch screen
beemarr
I could -maybe- see it being possible if you use LaTeX or something. So that way, you wouldn't need to muck around with the layouting on your phone, and instead you could just let the compiler handle that. I would never do it though, I'm too used to a mouse and keyboard. Been using desktops since DOS, so I definitely wouldn't be able to type out a paper on a phone. But I could see a younger whippersnapper puling it off. Possibly. Kinda. Maybe.
Yakeshinu
Or, hear me out, there may be specific (even freeware) versions of software developed for each purpose, and just possibly the tiny thing in your hand isn't capable of combining all of those resources. Yet.
*Shrugs*
OnlyOneArman
I can guarantee the demographic that uses LaTeX and the demographic that writes college papers on their phone do not overlap.
beemarr
Oh, absolutely, I agree. Just saying that it's theoretically possible if you wanted to attempt it just as like, proof of concept sort of thing.
AcidZebra
I 'member when controllers were called joysticks and had a single button.
RalphH
The QuickShot 2 was my weapon of choice!
goodtimehadbyall
back in my day, controllers had a single dial and our only game was Pong and that is how we liked it.
Imalwaysready
Those were the best!
HassyWan
IBM!!??? Atari m’f’er!!! 😜
houghten
Joysticks still exist, they've just diverged significantly from joypad-type controllers (and have gained a few buttons along the way)
HairyChairstepper
Natural selection is a beautiful thing
xXCarpeNoctumXx
I would have more respect for this guy if he wasn't a complete moron in regards to the #stopkillinggames campagin...seriously he opposes it because he thinks it will mean that GaaS will need to trust the client in client server model PvP games...which would enable cheating...but he's wrong because the intent is to leave the game functional without a server...in other words the developer sets up the game with an offline mode which can be enabled at the end of support..you know, when the game dies
Teddiebeast
Lost all interest in the guy when i watched his horrible take on that campaign.
Hes all "But oh no, we will have to restructure all existing games to allow for either an offline mode or being able to host your own "world server" that is full of secrets!" when that is not really what its about with existing games due to the timescale.
If games are built with support after its killed in mind, its easy to work around.
Teddiebeast
And its not about having everything available once the dev/publisher ditches the game, its about being able to get more than just a "Cannot contact server" promot that quits the game, when the game has content that really does not need an internet connection at all. And even if it requires a server to handle world state (MMOs for example) then someone generally will host it for people to play on, or you can host it yourself (as the instructions should be simple enough)
PontifexEroticus
It doesn't help that as a second generation game-dev nepo baby, a lot of the "problems" he envisions aren't problems to me, they're solutions. "But it threatens dev's IP control and proprietary code!" Good! I think copyright law is way too strict in favor of the corpos anyhow. Artists and creators and coders should own shit; not corps; and if you abandon something it belongs to whoever finds it on the digital roadside.
Radix865
That doesn't really mean he's wrong, he's just concentrating on the wrong point. And while I kinda get his worry, I more agree with the #stopkillinggames because I think being able to play the games after the devs pull the plug is much more important than some cheaters. Especially since it is now a thing even in some single player games...
Aurentis
Really the only thing necessary to stop these games from dying is for devs to let players host private servers like Minecraft, Terraria, Starbound, innumerable Valve games, and a bunch of others. Even if they lock that function until the official servers are gone, even if they prohibit it while they run the live service, that's the ultimate solution to dead games. Let the players take over hosting.
xXCarpeNoctumXx
EXACTLY...essentially setting up a switch for the game in advance that can be enabled at the end of support for the game, you know...right before or just after the servers are shut down for the last time, that this update either enables or installs a process that ignores the need for the auth server and/or enable alternate matchmaking systems that don't require a centralized server.
And it will be easier to do when the game is designed with this consideration in mind.
Aurentis
That, and pass laws that prevent game devs from coming after players for reverse-engineering same on old games that don't have that functionality already.
Aurentis
Game companies*
dragonflyy69
So you think League of Legends would be fun offline, with only bots?
PontifexEroticus
I don't think it's fun now.
OnlyOneArman
I think that any multiplayer have should allow local hosting of a server. I can play StarCraft 26 years later, why not anything else?
Fillask
While I don't disagree on principle, the way it's set up right now offers a lot with regard to matchmaking and such, which you'd then lose. Hell, you could still play the OG DotA on Warcraft 3, but who does? If LoL servers were to die, I imagine a very solid chunk of players wouldn't want to bother with the hassle, and it's already toxic enough with proper matchmaking, so you'd lose another chunk of players there. I get the point you're making, but the game is more than just the actual gameplay.
OnlyOneArman
Matchmaking doesn't exactly matter if I'm hosting it locally. I've got a lot finer control, and a lot smaller audience (the friends in currently playing with). However, more to the point, why not release the server code? Minecraft, for instance, allows players to host their own server, with all the bells and whistles therein. Why not release the server code, or even a black box server, and allow people to run it?
Fillask
You could, sure, but I imagine they wouldn't want to release the server code, or any code for that matter, because of the possibility of hosting it or something similar again in the future. They're a business; why would they give something away for free that they put a fair bit of money into to produce? It'd be an excellent gesture and it'd improve my opinion of Riot, but I really don't see it happening.
houghten
Meh. I remember wandering around the Science Museum twenty to thirty years ago touching all the screens because I couldn't tell the touch screens from the inert screens. This isn't much different.
jackhawkbolt
In the 90s? If there were any touch screens around then they had giant bezels to advertise you could touch and were absolutely terrible to use.
houghten
I was a kid! Picking up on context clues was not my strong point!
TinyLiehon
The touch screens have more grease fingers and smudges on them
DVSBSTrD
You knew what the fuck a console was though.
houghten
Sure, I'd seen them in adverts on TV.
nonickname23
This guy could be making actual millions with his voice. He's got great tone, pronunciation, pacing. I would kill for those pipes.
armswoldier
He is using a voice changer/ manipulating his voice. He was also a nepo hire and is against consumer rights
dragonflyy69
Wrong on all accounts.
BurningVeryImportantThings
His father was one of the OG WoW devs. He is the fat guy in the chair in The southpark WoW episode. Not like a parody of him but the actual guy collaborated on that episode with Matt and Trey.
MegaDeuce
I can't place his accent. I always think he sounds 20 years more mature than he looks.
Rogerwilco1974
I thought he was just mining along to Howard Stern.
Rogerwilco1974
Miming, not ⛏️
ItSeemsYouHaveSufferedaTerribleFate
Is this why youtube keeps recommending me his videos? People just gush over his voice? Amazing what some voice training and a good mic can do. Personally don't understand why people go wild for it but to each their own!
dragonflyy69
It's not just his voice, his whole personality is amazing. He is a very positive upbeat person and he loves sharing that positivity with everyone.
access
Have you tried playing WoW?
Baelnorn
The joys of second puberty.
nation543
Thor is an internet treasure and is on track to the change the world, beginning with the gaming industry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiUpnkewprw
freakdiablo
Thanks, was going to ask who he was.
nation543
He has a bajillion YouTube Shorts, and if you start watching but don't subscribe then the algorithm forces him into your feed; he explained this in one, and says that he wants his videos to mark the end of doom scrolling. It works for me, and others have said so, as well. It's amazing.
His dad directed EVERY SINGLE cinematic in WoW, and Thor was there for about 10 years in dev & QA. He says it really sucked; they paid $10.50/hr.
samwyze
Thor's Dad!
nation543
Legit 100% ! He's the actual guy who inspired it, and that's amazing.
Sensiblyinteresting
He actually went through a 2nd puberty which made his voice deeper. I have seen his live stream he has more subscribers than anyone I've seen on twitch like 30,000 at $3.75/m each with ads and stuff he easily clears a few mil a year
hEaDb3ntOv3rRaisEth3PostEriOr
His face doesn't not match his voice and I love it
Sonicdahedgie
It's heavily edited to increase the bass in it
ATacoWalksIntoABar
Have no idea who he is but instantly thought the same thing 😂
ApostleOfMalum
He is already a millionaire easily, his dev work has slowed down so he can focus on streaming, where he gets more viewers than Shroud
p7zjnq9gei9000
No way is that his real voice. Is it?
p7zjnq9gei9000
Holy @$&$. Thatbis his voice. It’s Howard Stern 2.0 🤣
EkitaiHebi
Should look up the one from a couple years ago dude went through 2nd puberty
Totallyscrewedinaustin
Here, from another comment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtAM3zMuyZ0
nclu
In retrospect I sure with I'd gotten some voice training back in high school when my grownup voice came in.
Foxsayy
Why's that? You can still learn. It won't help you get a voice like him if you don't already have it though, unless you're misusing yours now.
ourari
You can still do voice training. The window hasn't closed (completely).
YOURFRIEND2010
This guy had a second puberty. he used to sound completely different
BigIdeas
What household chemicals can I ingest to induce this?
SangVis
He's on track to at least be a millionaire, successful twitch account, develops games, and also works for a startup-publisher Offbrand Games. Who's owner is also a popular streamer.
theend587
He said if he became a millionaire he did something wrong.
gamblingpoet
His stories about working at Blizzard are funny (His dad was the model for the South Park WoW player) to just depressing (like how WoW made more money selling a in-game horse than all of StarCraft 2 combined).
logicalawesomeness
Saw the dude live at a con panel, great guy
DSREX
Hell is ferret rescue is completely financed by Twitch Ads from his main channel people hanging out with the cat snakes.
TZO2k15
Seriously, my first thought was that his visage does not match that epic voice!
Dranton12
Why does he sound like Howard Stern?
DSREX
it is the amount of time they spend talking on a daily basis, changes your voice. Thor has a bit on that too
lpooptoomuch
he is the gold standard for talk radio, just like pilots all try to talk like Chuck Yeager
Cloudypoona
My thoughts
hellohowmayibeofservice
First thought I had was a young Alan Alda
JerBearington
You're right, he's like somewhere in between
lostlittletimeonthis
He's got the pronunciation of Alda but the tone of Stern
MutteringMisanthrope
sanyr
He posted a short about this one time. Went through some sort of a 'second puberty' as an adult and his voice changed. Having a really good audio setup helps too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtAM3zMuyZ0
ItSeemsYouHaveSufferedaTerribleFate
Yea, also training your voice. It really sounds more like a radio voice rather than a his regular voice which is probably what you were seeing in the older video. This dude played WoW and I can tell you for a fact having a good voice gets your heard better when you're in a lobby with 10 people all talking over each other so it can become a necessity, haha
FiftyShadesOfBroccoli
This is the same kind of problem as "Gen Z doesn't know how to insert a VHS tape" or "millennials are puzzled by a rotary dial phone". At some point all technology becomes outdated.
SilverNicktail
Ehhhhh input devices are still a thing. Not everything works on touchscreen, or as well on touchscreen. At some point if you want to get into more sophisticated games, you kinda have to graduate IMO.
GerbilHereReportingLiveFromRichardGeresAss
That is definitely NOT the case.
Touchscreens are universally a downgrade from physical controllers. It doesn't matter how you cut it. You can't control software as well as with a physical controller designed for its task as opposed to a screen trying to be as efficient. That is the issue here.
FiftyShadesOfBroccoli
I mean, it's not like playing FPS games à la Counterstrike is an invaluable life skill or an important cultural heritage. There are many different types of games.
Mairoa
The problem is, keyboard and mouse is very much still in use. If you want a job? Probably need to know that. I have a lot of younger coworkers who can't touch type for this reason. We do email support
Varenvel
yes and no sadly , problem is , touch screens are not very interactable , just look what kind of games are on phone vs play station , and then compare playstation games to PC , then PC to phones. Each control type vechilicates that certain games are feasable to develop or play , touch screen is simplest but also dumbest games becouse touch screen has to have everything at screen , keyboard offers most complexity becouse screen is large , and keys are numerous so more>
Varenvel
complex games can be used , there is also reason why VR games are something between touch screen and play station games , while VR is very immersive you cant cram a lot mechanics or interface into it becouse it would be impossible to interact. this topic frankly is deep , most games i play on PC who stimulate thinking and planning simply would never work on phone. >
Varenvel
to me its a bit scary as phone games are not there to stimulate or entertain you , but adict you to microtransactions and spending , and it worries me what generation of people this rises if for entertainment its their main entertainment , not having fun but being preasured to spend money to have fun.
ratatazonk
Yes. And No. personal computers are still a main thing in the industry and will stay relevant for quite a while. Both in terms of working with big amounts of data and its visualization can not be handled with a phone. Personal computers might change to be more touch friendly ofcourse.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Nah, this is kinda silly. We have more input devices now, and we use each one where it functions best. I've seen the progression with my kids. Yes, they start on touch devices. But that's a relatively simple interface, for relatively simple UIs. You can only do so much with it. As my kids got older, they wanted to play more complex games, and we got a Switch. That's when they learned controllers, and they're very good with them. Even older, they started using computers. You have to be able to /1
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
read and write to use a keyboard, so obviously it'll come later in their development than the other two. Maybe some people will lead lives where they barely ever use a computer, and won't really get good at a keyboard or mouse, which is fine. And maybe voice to text will become common, and that's fine too. It'll be used for the cases it's most effective for, and the other input methods will be used for the remaining ones. /2
GamerZakh
I was a school teacher. One problem is Gen Z are often not trained on keyboards and only use touchscreens, so they type with 2 fingers or their thumbs, which is a lot slower than typing fully on a keyboard. This means they write essays and papers much slower compared to millennials or even older generations who trained on typewriters. My boomer parents were faster than my students on a keyboard. The keyboard isn't outdated yet, kids aren't being taught relevant skills.
FiftyShadesOfBroccoli
Fair enough. As a Gen X-er, used to type with 2 fingers (fairly fast too) until I started my first job and had to learn to type blind. I'm not sure if this is something that absolutely needs to be learned from a young age. And I'm actually a bit surprised that we haven't long switched to voice dictation. Speech recognition has been around for quite some time (I remember helping a former boss set up Dragon Dictate) and by now it's very accurate and faster than typing without much training.
iregretthisusernamealready
Dictation comes with a host of its own problems. Everyone around can hear you, for starters, which is a huge concern for sensitive information or simply privacy. It underperforms in noisy environments (e.g. crowded offices with dozens of workers dictating or on the phone, presumably, or on commute, or working from home with kids...). Back when I used it, I also felt it interrupted my stream of thoughts as I had to wait for it to catch up, then fix its mistakes, >
iregretthisusernamealready
> which I don’t really feel when typing (I can imagine this is less of an issue now as the software has improved and runs on more powerful hardware). And I couldn’t listen to music while using it, unless I was willing to have headphones on for hours.
FiftyShadesOfBroccoli
So you're saying it's a great reason for employers to let people work from home rather than squeeze 20 employees in a noisy cube farm.
GamerZakh
Thing is keyboard typing isn't a single purpose skill. Writing papers, programming, accounting, and so many professions benefit from high keyboard skills. Even if you're not a programmer, basically code is used in design, art, even excel spreadsheets and the rush to get kids onto touch devices is leaving them struggling in many jobs. Not to mention, hand eye coordination is developed a lot better on a keyboard, touch devices are essentially fingerprinting by comparison.
GamerZakh
I have written a dissertation on this for my degree which I then practiced and developed further during my teaching years. What's happened is like what happened with cars. Computers became so intuitive and easy, the new generation doesn't actually know how anything works under the hood. Gen X and Millennials are more tech literate than Gen Z because computers were hard to use. Many of Gen Z don't even understand file and folder structure because they never have to search for files.
FiftyShadesOfBroccoli
I'm not disagreeing with you. My point was that you can learn blind typing at age 18, 21 or 30. It's never too late. You haven't missed your window by age 12.