Three-Dimensional Time - New Theory

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Three-Dimensional Time - New Theory
Oktay Yürük aka Oktay74tn, science and tech content
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This animation shows the general relativity theory of gravitation. Space and time are distorted near a mass. Time is different from the three dimensions of space and could be quantized, not continuous.

According to a new theory, there are three dimensions of time in addition to the three dimensions of space: the quantum scale, the interaction scale and the cosmological scale. They intersect at the origin of time, which could correspond to the Big Bang.

The first temporal dimension t1 represents quantum-scale phenomena at the Planck time scale. This dimension determines quantum mechanical behavior and fundamental particle interactions.

The second temporal dimension t2 affects the interaction scale between quantum and classical phenomena. This dimension is important for particle generations and weak interactions.

The third temporal dimension t3 represents the cosmological time scales. It governs large-scale structure evolution and gravitational phenomena in the universe. t3 is associated with gravitational waves.

A linear movement in three-dimensional time corresponds to our everyday experience of time. Moving in a different direction in this system changes the outcomes.

The three time dimensions are the primary fabric of everything, like the canvas of a painting. Space with its three dimensions is comparable to the paint on the canvas.

This is an image of the folded steel walls of the ProtoDUNE experiment that are designed to contain the pressure of liquid argon. The new theory predicts the masses of the neutrino (0.058 eV, 0.0086 eV and 0.0023 eV) and can be tested in future collider experiments.

According to the new theory, there are new resonances at 2.3 and 4.1 teraelectron volt. The gravitational wave speed modification is predicted to be 1.5 times 10 to the minus 15. If this theory is confirmed, it could lead to the discovery of a quantum theory of gravity, the theory of everything.

Three-Dimensional Time: A Mathematical Framework for Fundamental Physics
Gunther Kletetschka
https://www.worldscientific.com/doi/epdf/10.1142/S2424942425500045

Time Has Three Dimensions, New Theory Says
https://www.sci.news/physics/three-dimensional-time-14011.html

Wikipedia articles
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_units#Planck_time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_everything
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ProtoDUNE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutrino
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_Underground_Neutrino_Experiment

Sub-Atomic World Series
Wendelstein 7-X Progress In Fusion Research
https://imgur.com/gallery/wendelstein-7-x-progress-fusion-research-AhyIR5S

CERN LHC Observes Conversion of Lead into Gold
https://imgur.com/gallery/cern-lhc-observes-conversion-of-lead-into-gold-cHvgEhm

Upper Neutrino Mass Limit: New Data From KATRIN
https://imgur.com/gallery/upper-neutrino-mass-limit-new-data-from-katrin-VF3KfiD

Element Carbon: Origin and Journey in the Milky Way
https://imgur.com/gallery/element-carbon-origin-journey-milky-way-HAwDF2J

Quantum Teleportation Success Via Internet
https://imgur.com/gallery/quantum-teleportation-success-via-internet-xOaZZSx

Quantum Entanglement Inside Protons - Mysteries Of The Subatomic World
https://imgur.com/gallery/quantum-entanglement-inside-protons-mysteries-of-subatomic-world-S2WGpiH

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DrewK98

The only thing that gives me hope for this is the claim that it makes predictions that are testable.

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nccomputermechanics4

This is fairly close to the way string theory postulates its 9+ dimensions

Sorceresss

androgenoide

It's not good physics but it's great science fiction. Sideways time travel among the multiverses just fixes so many plot lines.

ibuycrap

I feel stupid now.

NerdyBloke

So what I'm getting from the thubnail is... time is cubic and Otis Eugene "Gene" Ray was right all along?

shehdbeuebw738373bd73beu

Sorry but this doesn't pass the sniff test for me. Sounds stupid as hell if I am honest.

IRCBrink

Cornflakes91

"i have theories" vibes

ItHappenedInThe20thCentury

Incredibly exciting once again. Your posts are a treasure, @OP !

Also: measuring ANYTHING that changed on the order of 10^(-15) is in itself already unimaginable. Wow.

thoushaltnotpass

Very heavy and hypothetical physics science that gets pop-sci illustrations before it gets recognized peer review, everyone should be very skeptical

BixbyConsequence

WindowStreetJournal

Nice, I didn't know I can read in chinese (but still don't speak the language)

AnonOmis1000

I'm waaaay to dumb to understand any of this.

skipweasel

Sorry, I'm sure it's very worthy, but the first thing that comes to mind is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Cube

Chloramphenicol

Holy shit! I haven't seen Time Cube referenced in at least a decade!

crann

I just read this post and looked over at my wife and yelled "The crazy bastard was right all along!" Then returned to my scrolling. Its archived here: https://web.archive.org/web/20160112193916/http://timecube.com/ And yes, its a single page of rambling. I also suggest The Moral ABC's by Emanuel Bronner. Its actually a fun read, especially the additional autobiography chapters.

mrputter

Ayup. Immediately started getting some serious Gene Ray vibes from this.

Yes, there are more theories of additional dimensions in space or time, e.g. the Kaluza–Klein theory https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaluza-Klein_theory . In this work, the three time dimensions correspond to distinct physical scales and phenomena. That is the new concept.

And probably much less likely to be completely bonkers than the Time Cube one.

DanCodyComics

https://youtu.be/rywzXwLxo_Y?si=w7guTZf3ArgCIgBM

SamaelQliphoth

The Time Cube rises again!

FromQueerToEternity

Time is fractal. It's a lot more than just three.

C141Clay

(sound on)

trennerson

No sun no time. Duh. If we leave this area. By the sun. Does time slow? That's what I wanna know.

redtails2649

This stuff warps my brain. It's a lot to wrap around.

Bunnies007

Can you repeat the part of the stuff where you said all about the thing?

yeah...

So that's where all the pixels went. How does it breath when its mouth is shut?

Mcknizzle

https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTY1YjkxZmJlYnp0d2s2NzZpdjFzemJ6ZDNwbHYwcDltY2puYWFiNDNxZmx6MTJnaiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/l1KVb2dUcmuGG4tby/giphy.mp4

I’m actually into it too

TimmyTimm

Can you TL/DR this? (totally joking, there is no way to give me enough background to understand this)

einthedog2

5 minutes: https://youtu.be/LWzK6nITCK0?si=KhrJEUK1LHE2v-sQ

Igotfourbedrats

marthafarquar

“Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so.”

dronir

I looked at the paper and it doesn't really derive anything. It's like "ok we have this three-dimensional time thing, and from it follows amazing result A and amazing result B" etc., but it never goes into any detail on how those results follow.

cepacolusmaximus

It also sounds like they're just three individual time scales, arranged as "axes." does it imply some relationship? ehhh...

keillrandor

I don't really see how this truly functions, either - just because 'we' recognise such differences in scale doesn't mean the universe must.

HighSorcerer

If there's one thing I know for certain about the universe, it's that it doesn't really behave the way we would expect it to.

That's because there's still one thing in particular that we don't know, that would inherently affect EVERYTHING else, but is extremely hard to test for - just how many spatial dimensions does the universe truly have? We have the mathematical models to support such knowledge, for our understanding, (from imaginary numbers), but we don't know what/how/if it's applicable atm. Without this knowledge, so much of the universe cannot be fully understood.

eronth

Thanks. I'm no expert, but I've had a similar feeling to the stuff I've seen on this. It felt like Time Cube Theory, but less ranty and slightly more based in normalcy... it just felt like it missed actually going somewhere with the supposition.

mikeatike

Next step is the 4 Dimensional Time Cube

BloodBlight

Sabine posted a video on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWzK6nITCK0

FuzzyX

This is one you refer to... https://youtu.be/LWzK6nITCK0

BishlamekGurpgork

A lot of times we develop models like this just to more accurately model phenomena, and along the way perhaps connect the dots between variables, concepts, or equations that seem important without knowing why.

When you can identify factors that are important in making a model of reality function, you have a hint that it may be related to a principle of reality that is foundational, and can teach you how to further refund your and future models.

TheDaharMaster

Will this explain why time moves faster on Sundays?

qwasson

I think this theory isnt so new, or someone did some moving in the 6th dimension a while ago

https://youtu.be/XjsgoXvnStY

ickyickywoopwoo

Sabine Hossenfelder has a hilarious response to this paper on YouTube, it is a great example of science journalism isn't able to understand or communicate science. Apparently the formulas are wrong and the math is actually just wrong, but not many people can tell because it' looks like complex math.

LordElups

https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1bmI3cXY5MzM1Z3JlaGQwMW80cHJ0NHZrOTVic3BwaGVpNG5qczNxMCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/26FLgGTPUDH6UGAbm/200w.webp

annolyn

She’s great! I really appreciate her. For anyone that wants to listen to her debunk this “theory” here’s the video: https://youtu.be/LWzK6nITCK0?si=ony6d7CsoSQZ59ZC

MrSlater

She went full on right wing mouthpiece though.

Really? Can you elaborate? I’ve always appreciated her videos and read her articles in Nautilus.

Sorry, I was away for a few days. See my other reply, I tried to summarize it there.

Ree81

What? Could you summarize a bit?

Oh and there was this ridiculous made-up letter where an "anonymous scientist" "confesses" their academic fraud which she used as proof.

Besides her long-term campaign of eroding trust in science where she calls academia fundamentally "broken" and "corrupt" or conveniently calls to defund it, she's been praising Musk and Thiel as of late. She's packaging her agenda videos between genuinely informative content to give them credibility. It's a mixture of information laundering and credibility sandwiching.

oh..... ewww.... brotha eewww!

I know her stance toward academia tends to be in the direction of reform, but I’ve never heard her praise Thiel or Musk or even mention them. Do you have a link to one of those videos? I definitely haven’t watched all the content she’s put out as I don’t really have time to do so, so anything would be appreciated.

Tried to find it but I gave up after I rushed through 4-5 of her more agenda-heavy videos. Professor Dave has a few takes on her. While I don't like his presentation style, content wise I agreed with most of his takes about her.

petpet3d

I like (most of) her videos since she calls out a lot of bullshit. But on r/physics and r/particlephysics most comments about her or linking to her videos get quickly down voted. The theoretical physics world seems to be full of drama...

PectorialMuscles

She once called out the bullshit of the entire science, especially physics, industry... Maybe related to that. She does tend to be a doomer, but also it's hard not to be.

alaest0r

I unsubscribed from her after a few years because I couldn't stand the bullshit she was putting out. She's basically become a grifter and the videos that cover subjects outside of her expertise are frequently painfully wrong. "Professor Dave Explains", "skepchick", and even Vaush made good videos ripping her apart.

itsameeeee

what kind of interesting things this theory could make plausible?

BoobJiggle

A working understanding of quantum gravity could potentially lead to things like faster than light travel, anti-gravity, artificial gravity, fun stuff.

pgdave

No, it won't lead to ftl, and almost certainly not the others.

MaddogDelphi1997

Especially if the math is wrong, which it is.

I said could. A working understanding of quantum gravity, follows that we would start learning to manipulate quantum gravity, and then from there Miguel Alcubierre's warp drive is no longer an impossibility.

Contract space in front of you, expand it behind you, there are no laws governing the speed at which space can stretch. Though I think his particular equations rely on the existence of tachyons iirc

But understanding quantum gravity is absolutely foundational to any of those

An understanding of quantum gravity doesn't allow us to manipulate it any more than an understanding of newtonian gravity allowed us to manipulate it.

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