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HelloLetsGo
LeighCosmosVillain
I appreciate that in the rebuttal the spelling error was recognized, but it was set aside because it wasn’t the chief argument against the logic
eastend666
My boss always backed into his parking lot spot. He said that if his battery died and he needed a jump, it would be much easier. I can't argue with that.
Tygermann
Never back into angled parking where it's a one way path
Selfawerewolf
This is just rage-bait nonsense, right? This can't be a real opinion.
lAmGnomeAnn
I met a person once that was legitimately annoyed about it. They said to me, "Why should I wait for you to back in?" To which I asked the obvious, "Why should I wait for you to back out?" And they stfu about it after that. So yeah. Defo nonsense.
KatzenGott
It doesn't take longer to back in than to forward in. Unless you don't know how to do it right, but it's the same for forwarding in.
lAmGnomeAnn
I agree
bohjeenie
Liability,
someone rear ends you while parking : their fault
Someone drives into you while reversing out of a spot : your fault
Given the absolute refusal to wait to car parks means this risk Is insanely high.
dart223
Backing in, i know im backing into a parking spot, backing out i don't know if a child or a zoomy car is gonna appear magically. It's a lot safer for everyone. I also park away from everyone if I can
Wheee12
Safer, faster since you already control the lane, and better visibility with edges and corners
cosinewave
Backing in is often safer than backing out.
FrozenMojo
Giggity
OkButWhyWereTheyFilming
Almost always. The main objection ppl have is waiting for the maneuver. But you have to wait equally long for someone to back out!
divingin
I've seen drivers enter a one-way angled parking loop going the wrong way just so the could back into a spot. Then fuck up traffic again when they drive the wrong way to leave.
RedAppleSoda
So you saw the word “often” and took that personally?
astrangehop
Well, that's stupid.
csullivan
I’ll never understand it. It makes me irrationally angry. Backing into a spot is telling the world “fuck everybody, if you’re right behind me, too bad, I’m gonna make you wait while I position myself and oops, I’ve gotta go forward and back a bit to get the right angle“ whereas if you pull in normally, you politely wait until you have adequate space to back out as to not inconvenience anybody
PunnyTiger
do you want worse visibility when you are entering an empty car sized space, or when you're exiting and ignorant morons are driving or waking behind you when you're attempting to leave? there's far more danger, and idiot based obstructions to avoid on the way out.
makesense
Have to disagree with him. May be easier to get out. MUCH MUCH harder to get in and people don't know you are planning on backing in so they suddenly have to stop to keep from hitting you.
lozeldatkm
yeah I once pulled into a parking spot when the car ahead of me drove right past it, then the lady in that vehicle got out and yelled at me because I was somehow supposed to know she was about to back in.
lAmGnomeAnn
Sometimes, I have to stop suddenly to keep from hitting people backing out, too.
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makesense
Also, when there are two cars around where you want to park, you are relying on mirrors and/or twisting yourself into position to not hit anyone. When you pull in forward, the other cars are in your normal line of site especially on the left.
makesense
Having seen plenty of people back poorly into spots, I would never call it easier. And no matter what indicators you put on (and tons do not), when you pass the spot the person behind you thinks you are passing that spot. And even if... you are forcing others to wait longer just for you.
SecretCatPolicy
You have to reverse at some point, and it's easier to back from a tight space to a large open area than it is to back into a small tight space. Also, parking front-in means the back of the car is accessible for loading up with stuff where it may not be if parking back-in. And unless you drive a cab-over-engine van, you still have to stick your entire bonnet out into traffic before you can see what's coming, so the safety advantage is negligible.
Onlyhereforthelaughs
I pull through. Best of both worlds.
theoracleofdreams
This is what I do
cartherium
O before E, except after C.
wibbIywobbIytimeywimey
*if and only if these other 47 conditions apply
bittenicht39
Have a look at a one dollar note: annuit coeptis. (OK, that‘s not English…).
Mithi
Don't tell a maggat that there is foreign stuff on HIS dollar note!
bhhorner350
Soooo many people CANNOT stay between lines while backing in.
OkButWhyWereTheyFilming
Counterpoint: a lot of people can't stay between the lines while going front-in.
massholesome
And the fat fn trucks and SUVs hog the entire space regardless.
LootenetDan
I have a backup cam. It's much easier to see the lines while backing in than the alternative
Nbiakro
KidShenck
This should read, "what a bast of bunchards."
c64masterrace
*bastrads
CasuallyObservering
*bastages
Nbiakro
Yup better, thanks!
SageOfDepth
RetrogradeLlama
Fast getaway after the heist.
VjekoV88
Cars have a narrower turning radius going reverse.....
WillLickNudibranchsForBUzz
Seems unlikey. You can't turn the front wheels more just because the car is going in the opposite direction.
notimelikethepast
Can’t believe how far I had to scroll for this.
Mithi
Forklift certified? Because yes, that is exactly the reason why those have the steering at the rear.
Detoc
My search is over for this comment.
imgurmage
It's a lot safer to back into a parking spot and leave it pulling forwards than it is to back out of a parking spot when there's a lot of people around.
ChrisCorona
Mostly true, but if there are in fact a lot of people around, pulling straight into a parking spot is safer than backing into the same spot with a lot of people around.
imgurmage
I disagree. The reason I said is safer to back in vs back out is due to visibility. While backing in your view is not as obstructed by the cars you're immediately next to like it is when you back out of a parking spot. That greater visibility to see what people are doing is what makes it safer.
Elliotblet
Because when I get to work (school) in the morning there aren't any kids there. When I leave in the afternoon, they are walking home and I don't want to accidentally run over one.
DukePhelan
Because its hard enough to see oncoming traffic past your F350 tiny dick compensator without having to back out half my car length just to be able see into the lane.
TSeventhSon
The back up cam makes it easier to back into a spot than it is to pull in due to the angle of the camera.
TheLastLuddite
My cam is the opposite. The collision detectors think we're all going to die if they detect me backing into a spot. If find it far easier backing out than backing in with the worrywart sensors I have.
ShereeAnderson
What if there’s an empty space ahead and you just pull ahead?!
unclesporky
I did this during my driver's license test and the testing guy said if I didn't back up into the other spot immediately he'd have to fail me because I crossed a yellow line. I don't know if he was being an overly-technical dick or if you legitimately aren't supposed to do that.
ShereeAnderson
Work smarter not harder.
PunkRage
Because I drive a beetle and 90% of the back of it is a blind spot, getting out of a parking spot is a nightmare in reverse. But I can easily back into a space or pull slightly forward into the empty space ahead. It's like they teach EMS in EVOC training, set yourself up to never have to reverse when you're leaving. It's faster and safer to be able to pull out going forwards
GerardEngelage
Safety: I hate backing out into busy traffic.
Danceswithpups
Backing into a spot is safer (it puts you in control). 1) you effectively stop traffic when you stop and you have unobstructed visibility. 2) if you signal, you communicate your intent to park. Once stopped, other drivers must wait for you to complete your move. 3) when backing out (others are in control), your view is obstructed by other cars, pedestrians and most other drivers will either speed up or refuse to stop to let you out.
TheOneAndOnlyButtStabber
At a power plant I use to work at required everyone to reverse into a parking spot because if something bad ever happened the people backing out slow the evacuation process Instead of get the fuck in your car put it in drive and get the fuck out of here.
busterfixxitt
Traditionally, easier access for using jumper cables, & towing if need be.
Slvrdgr
Yup, safety is the primary reason for me. I also like the bonus of ease of departure, and it generally takes you less time to back into a spot after traveling, then backing out of a spot after just getting in your car.
CaptSchmidtGaming
that is completely incorrect. its easier to back out into open space than it is to back into a closed one. you description does not convey an intelligent perspective.
Slvrdgr
O.o why would you back into a space if it's closed? I said generally. Meaning there are circumstances where backing in is not the best option.
CaptSchmidtGaming
closed in. not closed off. cmon man. try harder to have a copacetic conversation.
senseicombs
It's also safer from a personal protection perspective. You can escape faster if someone is trying to get in your vehicle. Backing out when you're paniced is much more likely to hit another car. A car accident is even worse when you're being atracked. It can stop your escape, hurt you, and make it easier for your attacker to capture or otherwise molest you. In a panic, you are also more likely to hit pedestrians in reverse than in a forward position.
ChewyClit
Easier to jumpstart ur car
badgerZ505
Oh and this…
dwilson0725
Can't be too busy if you can stop in the middle of said traffic to back into the spot?
rbudrick
But you back during the same traffic.
HelloLetsGo
100% agree. The question isn't why back in, the question is why aren't people courteous and let traffic go by before attempting to back in. Even more so...why are 'poeple' driving 30mph in a parking lot while I'm trying to back into the spot safely?!
EroticZombiePants
Because in many places there isn't enough room to really do that.
Danceswithpups
Impatience and self-centered drivers lacking courtesy or caring for others...
Darjanator
In some countries it's also illegal to do that on the road. Can't back out onto a bigger road. My instructor even extended that to parking lots. It's a good practice to maintain.
melni
As far as I know, reversing onto the road from a side street/drive is illegal in the UK. The only exception is those terrible angled spots that mean you HAVE to reverse out.
Manse84
They remodeled one road in our downtown core so all the spots are angled the opposite way and you have to back in. It's so much nicer and safer for everyone, especially the bike lane
koalamonster
They did this by my house, and then people complained because they can't back up their cars, so they switched it back to parking head in and backing out. Into traffic. Where people do not look because they can't drive, they can't even back in to a parking spot.
gunnexx
Over here it would just mean people park wrong....
DanielAsparagus
It sounds to me like you’re literally driving the wrong way down the lane.
Manse84
That's what it feels like at first, but it makes so much sense after you get used to it
DanielAsparagus
Okay I’ll accept this. There’s never a time in my life when I understand the conservative mindset. UNLESS someone installs a traffic circle or changes a parking lot, then my brain starts screaming “THIS IS THE EUROPEAN SOCIALISM FOX NEWS WARNED ABOUT AND ITS BAD WHY AM I MAD ABOUT THIS?”
DanielAsparagus
Not sure how this is safer for cyclists. Look im the first to admit my driving is average at best.
CaptSchmidtGaming
2 reasons. When opening the car door it wont open to a cyclist.
when leaving your spot.
and you can see left and right better.
this might be a good convention for crowded cities, but in more regular places like everywhere in America, this is overkill nonsense.
igoslow
My company had a driving safety doctrine and reverse parking was a desired solution.
ricpaul
Which was the reason backing into your parkingspace was mandatory at work. Along with a yearly commentary drive (talking out loud with every decision you made with an instructor next to you, makes you think about otherwise automated actions) and instructional video's on collegues who lost their life during commutes to and from work. They may have cared a lot for us employees or they must have seen what a waste of money loosing an employee is. Either way, I think it was a good practice.
AnonymooseAndSquirrel
My tags are expired and sometimes parking backwards helps me hide it.
badgerZ505
This…this is answer.
kewakl
But how did you back INTO a parking spot from busy traffic? Do the dynamics of traffic flow change depending on whether one is entering/leaving a parking spot?
CedricDur
You brake, then back into it. Now sure what's confusing. Obviously the cars behind will have to stop while this happens but if not in India they will do so.
kewakl
Ahh, you stop, then back up in bumper to bumper traffic. Got it!
CedricDur
Here we put the turn signal when we notice the parking spot, brake, and the cars behind us notice the parking slot, the turn signal, and brake too so we can park. Y'know, like a civilized country :)
azgrak1
I drive an f250. My truck is longer than most painted parking spots. If I back in my rear overhang extends far beyond the parking Ballard. I do tend to park in the back of parking lots to not be annoying, and I need the extra walking.
pwnedbill
Thank you. We need more considerate people like you.
DanielAsparagus
Where do you have traffic in a parking lot, where most parking is done? Honest question.
Beelsebooob
In non US countries, on street parking is common.
TheS4ndm4n
There's more traffic in the lane in a parking lot than in the parking spot. A lot of fender benders happen in parking lots.
DanielAsparagus
Not wrong. And I mean, I’ve technically had a parking fender bender. However!!!!! I know for an absolute fact I’d have damaged a lot more vehicles backing into spots.
omgzwtfs
Do what's safe. I can't parallel park for shit, if my girlfriend isn't in the car to switch and park for me I'm going blocks for a big enough spot
seanryan0213
So backing into your spot during heavy traffic is safer?
Either way there is risk. This is all perceived safety
CedricDur
Yes.
W92Baj
Yes. Also in car parks. People will walk behind you as you back out, people rarely walk behind you in a parking spot
seanryan0213
Some people are awful drivers and it shows. Learn how to enter and exit parking spots like a responsible driver. The only time this is reasonable is coming out of a driveway onto a busy road. Everything else is garbage. How many times do I witness a mindless idiot back into his spot unaware of anything else? Due to his and everyone else’s belief that this is safer. My renter believes this garbage and his tailgate proves how stupid it is. Mirrors work and so do those cameras.
VitaminJay
Back into the space is safer when you depart. 10/10 recommend.
angelsword1
Okay but in the parking deck I wait for one attempt. I'm not sitting there while you try three times. Man I love working from home and don't miss the parking deck one bit!
Mithi
What is the difference between three attempts to get in versus three attempts to back out?
pwnedbill
Three attempts to back in is a skill issue. Three attempts to back out means you shouldn’t have a license.
SecretCatPolicy
You wait for one attempt and then do what? Ram them? Embarrass yourself by honking? Make an exasperated little gasp?
FussyZeus
Also having your steering axle in front permits better maneuvering as you complete the park, and the biggest hazard was always the lack of visibility which is addressed with a back up camera, and they’re pretty ubiquitous now.
kaiken1987
The fear of a kid running behind me when backing out at a grocery store. Back into the spot and don't have to worry because even if the kid is running between the cars I'm not backing that far in
VitaminJay
This cat knows what's up.
SecretCatPolicy
I've nearly been hit so many times by cars backing into spaces and paying so much attention to not hitting other cars they completely fail to pay attention to me standing outside the shop beside my bike eating my lunch. I have had people back into and knock my bike over while I was in the shop too. As for in big car parks, just move slowly and nobody will get hurt whatever you do. Too many people are way too oblivious to safely park back-inwards.
SkamanSam
My experience of watching other people do that does nothing to verify your claim.
VitaminJay
Skill issue.
Strategicgnomer
Uhh huh... And yet the people backing OUT of those spots have zero issues doing so and don't take up everyone's time going in.. So ...
VitaminJay
They still take people's time waiting for them to back out. It's about consideration. A little bit of difficulty early so you can be aware of others in hunter/gatherer mode later on.
Stop believing you're the main character and recognize you're part of a society.
DanielAsparagus
If you think it’s safer when you depart it follows that it’s equally not as safe when you are backing into the spot?
jridley
When you are backing in, you can pay attention on the approach and know that there isn't a kid or something anywhere around you and back in relatively safely. When you leave there could easily be someone you can't see passing behind the vehicle.
OkButWhyWereTheyFilming
No, because your vision of what is going on in the lane of traffic isn't obstructed when you are backing in—but it is if you are backing out
cAPTNcAPSLOCK
Well, simply by the fact where the driver usually sits in a car it is very easy to answer this question. Unless you drive a car with an extended steering column where you sit all the way in the trunk, going in backwards will keep you and your field of vision on the road longest while going in adn expecially when going back out. Also, by pure physics it is easier to go into a tight space and correct for errors when the swerving wheels are in the back of the system (i.e going backwards)
Streiquer
False, you are at the mercy of oncoming traffic when backing out of a spot since oncoming traffic has right of way. When backing into the spot, traffic is at your mercy since you have established right of way.
WhatTheFrench
The trouble near me is that no one else seems to know someone backing into a spot has the right of way, & they follow too closely, and then I can’t back in, and then someone else comes behind them, so they can’t back up either, and I wind up driving off and trying to circle back or find another spot.
I straight up skipped a party at a local place once that only had back-in parking (angled spots on a one-way street) because I arrived & tried to park three times and was too stressed to continue.
DanielAsparagus
Where does it have right of way? Not that I’m a dick to people parking. Right of way is “it’s my spot I got to it first.”
WhatTheFrench
Right of way in the sense that thru traffic is supposed to stay back and leave the parking person room to back into the spot. As opposed to being parked and reversing out of a spot, when you don’t have right of way. They were saying they’d rather do the backing up with the right of way than without.
DanielAsparagus
You’re technically correct, and I hate that. I’m sure there are plenty of nice and likable people who back into parking spots. In my part of the country it seems to highly correlate to D bags who rev their engine 3 4 or 5 times after they get parked. Not everyone who backs in does that. But NOBODY who pulls in does that.
Misora
If it will ease your mind try driving past a local fire station. At least in my area like 90% of fire fighters back into parking spaces. When you're a small car in a parking lot of big SUVs and trucks you have zero visibility backing out and backing in decreases the risk of you hitting someone. Especially in places that have a lot of kids running around.
DanielAsparagus
I respect firefighters because everything they do is out of a safety habit, so I will refrain from judging them.
AHostileBanana
You don't have right of way to go backwards
Streiquer
So you’re saying parallel parking is also illegal?
cinnnamongirl
Nor do you have the right of way to park forward. But unless the other driver is a cock hole they’ll allow you to park either way. So your point is?????
VitaminJay
Try it a few times, and begin realizing north american drivers are one bad day shy of a Mad Max scenario.
DanielAsparagus
You’re not wrong! I just refuse to change. Look I will admit my comment is clearly aimed and launched from the “the way I do it is the only viable way to do it and everyone else is stupid or uneducated” perch.
VitaminJay
Skill issue.
DanielAsparagus
Again I am an average driver and mediocre Parker on my best day. Now if you give me a tractor and a boat I can maneuver like a surgeon. I’m not kidding. I’ve got millimeter precision when I get that tractor in low gear. Now in a car, I’m just a menace.
VastMajorityRule
Is this something to riducule people about?
Shaodyn
On the Internet, everything is.
SecretCatPolicy
Have you never watched how much drivers mess around trying to park? It's maddening, like watching a procession of people pushing at a door marked 'pull' one after the other without learning anything.
cinnnamongirl
I’m so much better at backing in. It takes me several attempts pulling in forward I look like Austin Powers…. In my car or truck. But in the military we ALWAYS backed in. It was called combat parking back then, don’t know what they do now. It just stuck with me.
dghughes
Rage bait.
Eyeetsass
Seems like scientific inquiry. I have a small Nissan Frontier, and began backing into my parking spot at work because the people across the isle park like fuckasses, and I got tired of doing surgery backing out every day. Backing into my spot is easier than pulling out because in reverse the turn radius is great, and being able to see makes exiting a breeze.
EroticZombiePants
It's the internet. Everything is for ridicule.
DanielAsparagus
Apparently it is for @op.
badgerZ505
In Florida it is technically illegal to back into a parking spot, or drive through and park in the front facing one. We only have rear license tags here and if you pull through and someone parks behind you the cops can't see it. The cops here do what they call license plate lotto. They just drive through lots and run plates looking for warrants. This f's them up.
j4gr
You’re making that up. Cool story tho
MadamPuddifoot
As a Floridian... Didn't know it was illegal. Is that a state law?
quzar
As a Floridian, I've never heard of this. And it doesn't seem like the kind of thing that would be enforceable in private parking (eg most parking). Might be a thing in state-run buildings.
bitemark
"Poeple" get weird about their very particular habits. Nothing wrong with either. I do prefer backing in because it's what I was taught in driver's ed. Also my brain is already deeply in "driving mode" so my focus is better
Mithi
From what I gathered here it is unusual to do it and sometime even forbidden. Which sounds nuts to drivers from civilised countries.
cobacalao
You missspelled poeple
TheJusticeMitchell
And you misspelled “missspelled”
MissDeeMeanor
1. To load things into your trunk. 2. To see traffic better when exiting. 3. To show you indeed have a handicap placard in a handicapped spot.
SecretCatPolicy
1) How are you supposed to load things into your trunk if it's six inches from the bumper of another car? To access your trunk you have to park front-in. 2) unless you drive a cab-over-engine van or bus, you still have to stick into the oncoming traffic about half a car length before you can see. It's not like cars will automatically plough straight into you unless you lock eyes with other drivers, they also don't want to hit you, and seeing a driver who's not paying attention won't stop them.
makesense
1) not really. 2) so what? the other drivers should be looking out for you. 3) If you have one, it doesn't matter how easily someone can see it.
yotsubasnake
1) yes really, 2) I don't trust other drivers on the road
thefinpope
You shouldn't have to make it extra easy to show the placard, that's the metermaid's problem.
SomeDetroitGuy
Backing into a spot usually makes it MUCH harder to load things into your trunk, frequently impossible.
HeadJamistan
I see it at costco all the time and laugh my fucking ass off because there's no space between the rows.
DukePhelan
Yeah if you get some asshole parking on your bumper, I just stand on their hood and get what I need to done.
ThanatosElNyx
Yeah that really depends on locale, so not a good example for a general rule.
Commander5AM
Depends on location, it's a lot safer here because the spaces usually back onto a pavement between the lines of spaces so you're not standing in the road whilst putting things in.
AllTheKitties
Usually? Idk, it definitely depends. Last place I lived, my parking spot was in front of my building and backing in let me unload right in the sidewalk to my front door. I backed in any time I had groceries, etc. Current place has a parking deck and backing in does indeed make it impossible to load/unload the trunk. But backing in also cuts about 1/3 of the trip out of the parking deck for me, though, so now I do it any time I DON'T have groceries, lol.
davible
Last two I get and agree with. But the first is only applicable if no one parks in the spot opposite to you. Or only when it's a single row of parking spots.
DanielAsparagus
Wut? How do you get to your trunk? This is why I have questions. The answers make me think some people don’t understand…. Things.
Arkkeri
There's very often a walking path, sidewalk, pavement.. a thing that is used by walking humans, where cars are not allowed, behind the parking spot. So.. very easily.
All parking spots and parking lots aren't identical, some countries infra is built around ppl walking. I know, it is a hard concept to understand :)
Dansosaur
You're just people who live very different lives. It means you usually park in massive parking lots at places like walmart etc, so you're thinking of the image on the right... Whereas they likely live either in a small-town, outside of the US entirely or just choose to shop at smaller businesses where you'd park out-front with a side-walk, so the left image is what comes to mind for them.
Dansosaur
Main takeaway from this is that this argument is stupid because whichever way is "better" depends on where you're trying to park. So long as you're not impeding anyone else though, then it really doesn't matter.