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bobbycottle
Plant some billionaires.
UpvoteTotem
I wish wish wish it was this simple. It's really about battling power structures bent on profit, not on helping our planets ecosystems
LarvaLamp
Planting trees is nice, but trees literally will plant themselves. Clean up the oceans first.
zFUBARz
Desertification is likely a bigger problem then you think.
Navrodel
Musk and Bezos would probably try planting palms in the tundra. Tax them both and get someone with a brain to solve problems.
USSBigBooty
Why not both? Because we are not mature enough as a species to colonize other worlds.
TheMeanGombeen
Neil deGrasse Tyson said that we could fix earth for a fraction of the cost of terraforming Mars.
maxxra
What the FUCK is with the luddite crap?! You want to plant trees? Go for it - SpaceX, BlueOrigin, and NASA ARE NOT FUCKING STOPPING YOU!
Fritzy19
*plant forests. A lot of the places that plant trees, do it for lumber, and don't plant indigenous species. Some end up hurting ecosystems
areyouelonmusk
Ok, but trees first. Indigenous trees tho.
TruckerKunIsekaiGod
Quiet! We are TRYING to get all the rich to go to Mars! Then we refuse them re-admittance to Earth. Stick to the plan!
MarkySpaceMagnet
If the rich go to Mars, they will take Earth's resources with them.
RobertTheBruise
How about we let them back in, but the burn op on re-entry?
tr26
Can we put them on the C Ark?
BunRabbit
I heard the Earth's are about to eaten by a giant mutant space goat.
captaingeerex
Time to get out of the bath?
SavageDrums
I can think of faster ways to deal with the problem of the rich...
RebeccaApples
Native grasslands are also in need of severe help! Save the habitats, not just the trees
Revokingthesealofquality
Or YOU could donate to an organization that plants trees instead of waiting for billionaires to do the right thing.
marsgoose
Ay lmao, just go out and plant a damn tree, it's not exactly rocket surgey. Just look up what will work in your climate.
hansbethe
Yes, because the average person has the purchasing power to donate to an organization which will plant enough trees to make a difference.
hansbethe
Simply get the change out of your couch and plant trees! It's so easy! Global warming is solved, thanks @Revokingthesealofquality!
Revokingthesealofquality
Make fun if you want, but planting trees is pretty inexpensive. You genuinely could make a difference without being rich.
hansbethe
Could you literally end global warming with the change in your couch? No.
RevolutionOnHerLips
I haven't bought actual groceries since september or october. I wish I had spare money to plant trees :(
HasteTheFool
Planting trees is inexpensive, owning the land and arranging to have the trees watered and looked after is not.
mickjl
Yes. We should plant more trees. We should also stop cutting down most trees. And drive less. Fly less. Eat less meat. Farm better. etc
fennecbutt
Lmao, space tech is useful for stuffs on earth too. And yeah plenty trees gonna help us when another asteroid comes our way
nojustsayitdont
You're right. We should just nuke the Earth to spite the asteroid.
MarkySpaceMagnet
Both
RummageSaleBubbler
IDK, I'm a fan of sending Elon to Mars... @BotDrawA Elon Musk, on mars, in a clown outfit with face paint
BotDrawA
@RummageSaleBubbler Here's your (experimental extra) drawing of a "Elon Musk, on mars, in a clown outfit
BotDrawA
@RummageSaleBubbler Here's your drawing of a "Elon Musk, on mars, in a clown outfit with face paint"
ComcastLover
@BotDrawA Elon Musk, eating fish guts
BotDrawA
@ComcastLover Here's your (experimental extra) drawing of a "Elon Musk, eating fish guts in the style of
BotDrawA
@ComcastLover Here's your drawing of a "Elon Musk, eating fish guts"
Fargus57
We could use more though. https://massinitiative.org/are-there-more-trees-in-north-america-now-than-100-years-ago/
Zahnradfee
The number of trees is not the matter. The quality and complexity of the forests are the problem! Primary forests were/are cut down and >
Zahnradfee
tree plantations erected.
Varenvel
"why not both" not works for capitalism , where ultimate value is money , climate will alweys be on 5 or 10 spot , your life is around there
Varenvel
between 5-10 , your life around 5 , what covid19 proven beyond doupt that life , well being , comfort , everything is less important then >
Varenvel
profit in capitalism , they even threw entire economy under the bus so profit could go on for few more extra weeks , not to say milions dead
MoonMoon89
Terraform Earth!
Zahnradfee
Or maybe, like, STOP destroying it? Let it terraform itself back?
SomeGiantIdiot
spiceass9000
That’s what I keep saying. He supposedly has a plant to terraform mars but he’s incapable of solving our climate change problems?
TodayIsSlapANaziDay
We’re already at it! Maybe not with the results you want, but we’re making good progress
nclu
That's what happens when you develop directly in production
R100GSPD
Why leave a better planet for our children when we can leave our children for a better planet?
jamesx
mars cannot support trees yet. too cold and no water
Zobbie
Duh, a space ladder will never reach Mars, no matter how many trees you use
marsgoose
We will make a space ladder out of 2x4's
nojustsayitdont
https://youtu.be/C2xFnKWSxdQ
VX7567
Because it would be orders of magnitude easier to build colonies in Antarctica than on Mars. MANY orders of magnitude easier.
TheDoobyRanger
both both both!
thoushaltnotpass
It's too late to "just plant trees", anyone who tell you they plant trees are just doing greenwashing.
TheWarHymn
Trees plant themselves. What we need to do is stop doing the things that's preventing them from growing back.
swordsnguns
Depends on where you are, I can tell you for the west USA,we need to be burning and thinning more to reach a more historic biomass density
CaliMicki
I can see both sides to this. I would love for there to be space travel and also taking care of the planet that we currently live on
zFUBARz
More time to get off the planet if we stop killing it off.
CaliMicki
Big facts
tonbeor
what if I told you the technology needed to go to mars is the same kind of tech we need to save the earth?
BonafideHomicide
That's funny, it seems like Earth has been trekking along for millennia without Mars tech just fine...
TheWarHymn
*Save ourselves. Living under a dome on Earth because we fucked up the atmosphere, oceans, and land isn't saving Mother Nature.=>
TheWarHymn
It's just sleeping with her dead corpse.
nojustsayitdont
AT least it'll be a warm dead corpse.
nojustsayitdont
On Earth we have a head start. Like no tech required. Just STOP fucking shit up.
fititallinyourmouth
Just planting trees won't solve the problem. It's much bigger and will require the world to rethink and retool how we do things.
NationalistCanadianMooseWarrior
Ok yeah, but I'll take planting trees over space hobbies
bemxuu
With the way the industry is running and developing now, I don't think we have enough space to plant that many trees.
Caliitali
What “things” we do will stop a fucking asteroid hitting the planet?
kepattRunner
Nestle will have to be utterly destroyed for one thing
zFUBARz
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/great-green-wall-stop-desertification-not-so-much-180960171/ Tree's sure help as part of it.
kaarbaakimgr
If you live in a society where billionaires _want_ to plant trees, the mindset will right the ship.
C141Clay
So electric and diesel powered super trees?
transientmind
Stop logging old growth forests, limit it exclusively to plantations. Also stop clearing land for plantations.
thealmightywalrus420
In fact, planting trees is often done incorrectly and causes harm. People don't plant native species and they often plant trees in grassland
ItachiTzu
I'd rather go go Mars
Spootanany
Is ok though, people are really good at making changes for the better. Right?
Ramensan00
Obviously
PleasantPeasantPheasant
Growing things like seaweed is also far more effective.
PTNLemay
Indeed:. https://youtu.be/tj_kOcOUr_g
Qualtagh
Fingers crossed that fusion will give us a big boost in the process
Somedumbjerkok
Yeah but in 10 years we'll have some lumber!
chapterhawk101
Hey, wood is one of the most renewable resources we have. I mean that in all seriousness too.
BunRabbit
Walkable neighbourhoods. Sustainable farming. An economy not measured in growth of GDP. All these and more are needed. Trees are good too.
Theory89
Don't forget rewriting the rules of the free market so that its capable of preserving rather than just exploiting its participants.
eightyearplan
online somewhere -even reddit- let's organize / compare / discuss / revise .. plans for - "I00 acres, 200, 500, Ik, 2k.. "
ninjafartball
whoisyourdaddy
Fine, I will stop planting trees.
photog
We need to curtail the population. That's the answer no body wants to admit. Society doesn't need to grow for people to enjoy life.
Zed152
it was the most complex instruction elon could follow
AtmaDarkwolf
yes. BUT planting a buttload of trees in every possible space we can (IE rooftops, between roads, etc) would be a HUGE step in the job!
AtmaDarkwolf
it would also be (comparatively) quite cheap compared to some of the other necessary 'fixes' needed. Don't discount it so quickly!
AtmaDarkwolf
added to note, that adding trees, if only along roads and if only so the treetops provide 40-ish% cover, would drastically reduce the temp
AtmaDarkwolf
in the neighborhoods they are planted. Which reduces energy use for air conditioning, less water required for lawns, etc.
NotTinyPancakes
but we acns till plant trees
maincarrot
I was looking at just an ethernet connector and was studying its complexity, sturdiness, transparency, and ability to crimp it.
maincarrot
We aren't getting this from any other material. We need to redesign it with sustainable materials... But.. what? Even the insulation for the
maincarrot
Twisted wires and cable sleeve are plastic. It's everywhere. What are gonna use? Wax paper? How can the design change for other materials?
maincarrot
No one is gonna retool that. There's no money in it, and no one will want it. Span that over larger industries. We ah fuct. Fuct!
StunttheRunt
If we use shithead/corrupt/evil billionaires, influencers, and politicians as compost for the trees, would that help?
ohnonotmeagain
if they use the corruption money for planting more trees, yes
RandAIFlagg
One way to find out
slendfung
I’d feel better.
ILiekToCookAndBake
A bit, but my tummy is still upset.
MisterPrimeMinister
A little Torgo's Executive Powder?
OrionRex
It soothes the itch.
Enoan
Only if we follow up and dismantle the destructive systems that they abused to get to their position. If they just get replaced no good
fititallinyourmouth
Probably.
cfbshank36
Cool! I’ve never seen the original, thanks!
LumpPump
yeah if we ever get off our asses in the first place to use em... everyone likes to say it but when is the time to do it?
GoodJuJuuu
Bet that $44 billion could have planted what 3 trees at least?
soulsource
Certainly. Just google what fraction of the global CO2 emissions is caused by the 1%...
BrdCdn
1/ They are not personally using all the products from those emissions. Obviously they are in the decision making roles and need to be more
BrdCdn
2/ responsible and do more. However if you think shutting down shell for example will lead to any reduction in oil production or emissions
BrdCdn
3/ you are naive. Someone will fill the demand. Need to change how things are done.
CurseUrSuddenButInevitableBetrayal
Nop, because the ppl replacing the spot will just become the new shitheads/evil billionaire.
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NotTinyPancakes
yeha but planting ocean algaes a bti harder on land
PleasantPeasantPheasant
Everyone who has ever owned an aquarium will disagree with you.
NotTinyPancakes
yeha but thats in water
RevolutionOnHerLips
is there a way to clean ocean pollution and revitalize algae colonies?
NotTinyPancakes
there prob is but humans are just gonna keep trashing it
PleasantPeasantPheasant
Not really, there's no place to put all the plastic on land and burning it just results in more pollution and the spread of microplastics
PleasantPeasantPheasant
Best case scenario plastic eating bacteria evolve naturally but even then we'd still have to deal with all the extra CO2.
NotTinyPancakes
ship itinto space that can be future problems
transientmind
What about abandoned mines that never get cleaned up? We have so many fucking mines.
CharliePapaBravo
What about burying plastic? It came from the ground, put it back? Or scale just too large?
Felberin
Depends where you plant them, get some protected species and start bloking people like Musk in their homes with them.
2good4hisowngood
We need giant lasers to melt the surface of Mars and release all the oxygen from the ground. Kurtzgesagt did a video on it.
Zahnradfee
And what then? What do you do with oxygen on a planet without a magnetic field and too low gravitation?
peedrinkingcrapface
lets ball up all our organic waste in low earth orbit then start propelling chunks of it to Mars. all that Carbon and Nitrogen? jackpot.
peedrinkingcrapface
fleets of martian robots start processing all that shit into emissions - start greenhousing that bitch.
SilverNicktail
But also....plant trees.
Trelis
Problem is that some do just that, and then continue to do more environmental harm.
thomerow
Or, hear me out, don't cut them down in the first place
zFUBARz
Too late for that, need to halt desertification in several places, Trees do this.
tirohtar
Wetlands restoration is often much, much more important for carbon storage. Trees are nice, but if you just plant a bunch with little 1/
QuintinParry
Plant trees is short hand for environmental restoration.
tirohtar
Regard to habitat impact, you just end up fueling future forest fires. Marshes, bogs, and wetlands can actually turn biomatter into peat 1/
tirohtar
And store it over long time scales (that's how coal got made to begin with).
spittytrinkles
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FroekenOeken
As a biologist from a very forrested country (Sweden): tree monocultures are NOT good for biodiversity. They may be temporary coal sinks 1/2
FroekenOeken
But they are death traps for insects, vascular plants, mosses and lichens. Nothing sadder then walking through a young spruce plantation...
marsgoose
I figured it was like a crop, basically corn that just takes 25 years to mature. Also I've been noticing lots of Scandinavian lumber in
marsgoose
lumber yards lately, kinda crazy it's cheaper to ship it all the ways from you since Canadians are still slacking.
FroekenOeken
60-120 years for spruce here, but yeah, basically. And very few other organisms thrive there.
TheWarHymn
Damn, Swedes playing the long game. How big is a 120 year old spruce?