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Why startups use Ruby on Rails
Dec 27, 2014 7:45 PM
PhotonMan62
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crashtestzombie
for anything you see hacker news praising, know there is a community of contrarians hating that very same thing on sheer principle alone.
Draygen
4chan to reddit to imgur. I'm fucking 3rd generation don't give a fuck.
jjmarshmallow
I feel Internet illiterate! This is what it must feel like when people migrate to the U.S. and can't speak English.
crashtestzombie
start ups want RoR because they'll be able to use the fucking thing within their own lifetime.
timeforsomegoodnewseveryone
This is sausage to me
dickfarts
4chon pls
angel1216
This refers to almost every start up in San Francisco right now aha
dreadlockpirateroberts
More like 6 years ago... I see a lot of companies movie away from rails. Sublime text is great though.
dreadlockpirateroberts
Moving*. fuck.
Knappster
As a web developer I found this hilarious :P.
CrystalCoveredNuggets
Now hiring...must have at least five years experience in Ruby, JS, Flash, HTML5, PHP, Jquery, Apple and Android app languages. 25k salary.
ninmonkey
Back in my day.... The font tag wasn't deprecated. There were no poly fills. Perl had monks. Hamsters danced. And, the goat.
TrashPandaMafia
ti ta ti to too too
TheBritishAreComing
Haha, as a programmer this is so true. fucking hipsters.
CrazyBirbLady
Imgr.io
SUPERUNIQUENAME
Fuck it's taken
MetroidPrimeHesTheBest
He was describing me up until the starbucks part. Wouldn't be caught drinking something that's not pour over!
MetroidPrimeHesTheBest
Also, we have no .io domain, don't end in r, and I fucking despise the word "artisan"
MetroidPrimeHesTheBest
Also I code in node not ruby, because I'm afraid of heights (way too high of a horse!)
hitmanunknown
Devloping anything with ruby is like trying to toast bread with a frying pan you have wired into the mains...
weeewoooweeewoooweeeewooooooooo
I'm a programmer, and I use Xcode or PyCharm on my MacBook. You probably haven't heard of them.
kuemmel
http://yannesposito.com/Scratch/img/blog/Learn-Vim-Progressively/uber_leet_use_vim.jpg
ikmbaa
YES XCODE IS VERY RARELY USED IN THE MAC WORLD
eyerandom
the engineering interns at the company I interned at last summer literally used everything described here....spot on.
ragnaroqk
Back in my day we only made fun of Java developers. And Python developers! And sometimes C++ developers. We were mean, is what I'm saying.
cuddlez
If you were making fun of Java/C++ and Python devs what were you coding in? C?
picturesarenice
Lol wait for them to be like "8086 assembly." At which point it wouldn't be a competition.
YesThisIsPatrick
I... i seem to lack a basic understanding of this - am I alone in this situation?
ScrewWhatYouThinkIUpvoteSelfies
I feel left out
umuziki
Am also lost.
YesThisIsPatrick
And all of the sudden it just rocketed from -1 to 39 and i still don't see it!
jimmycarrsweirdlaugh
Nooooooope. You are not. Something about gemstones and trains?
mt77932
No I also am confused.
tarataqa
yep
Impossibrew
nope, i don't know wtf is going on in this post either.
PeskyGentlemen
A ruby is a type of gemstone that is normally red. These gemstone are generally very valuable
RestlessHousecats
Sometimes, said rubys are sent from destination to destination using "railroad technology" hence, Ruby on Rails
TheMysteriousMoodeRider
There are programming hipsters. Not a lot of people like them. Ruby on rails is a bit of a odd language to program in 1/?
TheMysteriousMoodeRider
And so 4chan is mocking them by comparing it to a hipster thing. "Oh lets use RoR for our start up" 2/?
TheMysteriousMoodeRider
They then start comparing it to even more hipster things like Macbooks in coffee shops. Sublime text is a program to write code that is 3/?
TheMysteriousMoodeRider
Also a bit hipster ish. It looks very colorful and fancy. ?/?
overa32182
Not at all, I'm glad you said what I was thinking +1 to you
arqtype
It's making fun of people anon perceives to be programmers because they thinks it's cool/profitable, but aren't "geeks" by anon's standard.
TetraCyberCat
This is a spillover from reddit. It is a niche subreddit with large viewership. You can see this if you click on the "source" button.
wifeaggro
Rails is really simple to use/learn. It's someone posting that doesn't know how to program and is mad about nothing.
dreadlockpirateroberts
It's not that bad but it does a lot of "magic" things in the background that can make it very confusing if you're not used to it.
KoryNunn
Ew don't compare node to ruby like that.
JosephDunaravich
They're totally the same community.
DocMcButtStuffins
http://imgur.com/UDM8CTN
MeatAndWhisky
hipstr
tarataqa
hipstr pls
tablecat
hipstr.io
conniecpu
let hip: &str = "hipstr";
LastSonOfGallifrey
hipstr hitlr
bluefacepaint
Killr of jws
nacko
Holocaustr.io
WhimsicalCalamari
baronridiculous
"...with a name that normally ends in -er but they removed the e." Uh, guys?
NoizeYonki
Tindr
NotSoSmartAlek
Tumblr.
khuan
This is true. Source: I lived in the Bay Area.
shittingmesoftly
Uh ok. So let's say I want to learn how to code, what language should a beginner learn, programmers?
picturesarenice
Python, Java, C, C++, Java are the really important ones that always need people. avoid Ruby and Perl at all costs
noppatoppa
If you are complete beginner, I would go with Ruby. Gets you coding interesting stuff fast with gems. Then Java -> C -> C++ / Objective-C
noppatoppa
AND! You get to read this: http://mislav.uniqpath.com/poignant-guide/
cuddlez
It depends what you want to do really. There are so many languages now and they are all good for different things. But I'd say C# or Python.
picturesarenice
I've never heard of anyone outside Apple using C#...and of course MSFT.
cuddlez
C# was developed at MS and is used regularly by Windows and Web developers. Apple used Objective-C until they created Swift just recently.
DecentDeviant
Java if you want an easy, practical, modern language. C++ is more difficult but extremely useful. Less common: Python, Ruby. Assembly=Satan.
rebarter
It's one of the easiest languages with a very well supported framework. That's why. With that in mind - it is not a good long term solution.
Neraka
No, but it's a good start to understand some of the basics, e.g. difference between back end and front end.
pizzaboytellem
Ruby on Rails was cool six years ago. Use laravel if you're a code artisan.
defkkkon
Haskell or bust
arqtype
The Wikipedia page on that framework makes it sound like Laravel gives PHP almost all the tools that good languages have. Impressive.
lookinjolly
Bardman
Knappster
Laravel has made me want to code in PHP. And that's kind of special :D.
konnichimade
D:
kuemmel
The "I cut your hand of - but you get a shining even better hand for it (that'll probably kill you if you don't do what I say)" kind of way.
NotSoSmartAlek
Voldemort?
kuemmel
PHP?
ipsumlorem
eck, php
danzafan37
And Rust, Golang, Docker, Haskell, or FoundationDB in your stack if you're a hipster, right (even though Docker kind of rules)?
TrapsAreIllegal
Fuck haskell use ocaml
cuddlez
Real programmers use vacuum tubes and switches. You can all fuck off with your "compilers" and "interpreters"... fucking casuals. :)
kuemmel
haskell is the best, most interesting language. But pretty hard to get into. I had a uni lecture in FuncP and still need to learn a lot.
aphocus
golang (inhouse google lang) and haskell (ms contrib.) have enterprise sponsorship, that might not be indie enough for them hipsters.
WardSharlow
Have you ever coded in haskell? It is most definitely not meant for doing anything serious. It's pretty obviously a proof-of-concept.
aphocus
Haskell is extremely hard to wrap your head around its not something you can just start to code in. Haskell is for professors in tweed.
aphocus
Guess my point is that these hipster start-ups can't actually get anything running, so why would they code in it?
IChangeMySettings
Sublime is a great editor. Rails is a good framework for small scale operations. Js frameworks are huge nowadays. Everybody needs to chill.
kuemmel
Still I know what they are talking about. I use some of these things as well (I hate web though. PHP,JS make me vomit - ruby is a beauty)
flamingflamingo
I think r/ProgrammerHumor has kind of a narrow demographic...
NerdN1
Narrow demographics are the best demographics!
Materclaritas
oh but xkcd gets 5k upvotes every time
flamingflamingo
Not *every* time, judging by usersub. However, xkcd often makes jokes that reach a broader audience
UsePNGnotJPEG
narrow but not that small. 58,000 people in that subreddit.
acmechanic
There's literally thousands of us, THOUSANDS!
NOINOON
Gotta do something while the code compiles.
ninmonkey
next you'll say people don't sub /r/animalporn
DysgraphicProgrammer
um... It that *porn* porn or "pretty picture" porn?
KWardie
f u
ThunderAtHawaii
"Mary had a little lamb"
ninmonkey
There's one way to find out.
TheBioengineer
The Internet supports subdemographics exponentially down the cascade. It's wonderful and one reason why reddit is so popular.
icallpeopleJack
Someone explain?
ninjagaidensigma
Apple fucking sucks.
backspace119
Its a programmer complaining about only finding jobs for ror rather than other, better languages.
Krindi
Early on with Ruby on Rails they suffered from huge performance issues paired with really pretentious blog posts basically talking...(1/3)
Krindi
(2/3) about how the core developers were God's gift to man. Rails people constantly paraded it as the best thing ever. No surprise, there...
Krindi
(3/3) was a large overlap between the Rails community and Apple's. Also, the community has a rep for having a bunch of "brogrammers" in it.
Melanion
I mean..yes and no. You'll find tech bros everywhere in the industry. Mac use is pretty universal for them, Rails isn't in my experience.
bwchronos
Ruby on Rails is a newish web dev framework that's esoteric and has almost no tangible benefit but is trendy, especially with startups.
GaryLaserEyez
Satan mortal darkness
Lockerkid
You just have the answer to everything today don't you.
twerkintrav
I think I'm more lost now
PeskyGentlemen
A ruby is a type of gemstone. This gemstone is generally red. A gemstone is typically found in the ground and many can be very valuable
ExcuseMeBearFuckerDoYouNeedAssistance
Apparently these coders think less of those coders because those coders use different code.
icallpeopleJack
The bastards.
PitbullsPublicist
The otter code is better.
tarataqa
STOP LIKING THINGS I DONT LIKE
PotatoHamer
you speak for everyone
tarataqa
I SPEAK FOR EVERYONE
ninmonkey
Yes, that's what he said too.
TheAllHighEruIluvatar
Old programming folk griping about them young varmints and their newfangled technomagic.
friesandkittens
prostheticlips
Upvoted because I represent that remark (49 year old coder)
psyduckforpresident
source (code) ?
flickerdart
Anyone who codes in anything but bytecode is a hack
NOINOON
Bytecode... Oh you.
sleete
Actually, its more of the reverse. RoR'ers can't stop talking about how superior RoR is compared to others.
ISpeakSQL
^This... it's more that RoR programmers are the CrossFit people of the programming world.
TheAllHighEruIluvatar
Yeah, but this particular image is other folk poking fun at them.
NOINOON
It used to be Lisp. Now it's Ruby.
Miel
Isn't Lisp used for IA?
NOINOON
Depends on whether you are asking from a smug Lisp weenie or a normal programmer?
sleete
To expand, they say (and can) do pretty much everything on RoR, but not flexible to venture to a diff language.
DocMcButtStuffins
http://imgur.com/UDM8CTN
cuddlez
Like anything in the world Programming has trends. Ruby on Rails is a technology that is currently trendy to use because its easy 1/3
cuddlez
to get started with. This person seems to think its "hipster" because fuck writing a proper thought-out criticism of a language/framework2/3
cuddlez
they probably have never themselves used, when its easier to just write it off. 3/3
kilna
Found the vegan.
iamawaffleiron
Using a non-widely used language in an attempt to be innovative because other programming languages are too main stream.
quietwalker
Some people pick programming languages and libraries based on trends and popularity rather than capability; these are the current trends.
boregano
It's this computer programming thing with a zombie game. I'm in. http://railsforzombies.org/
chimitos
Programmers making fun of hipster programmers
Reygo
We must go deeper
PlushySD
deeper
CanadiansWilllRule
people need to calm down, the hipsters arent doing anything but mildly embarrassing themselves
picturesarenice
It's all absolutely true.
weeewoooweeewoooweeeewooooooooo
RoR is a relatively new language that is decent but also not many companies use it so nobody really knows it very well
TrapsAreIllegal
It's alright, it just uses too much power to run on a server
conniecpu
RoR isn't a language. Ruby is the language, and Rails is a web framework. Ruby itself has been around since '95. RPG Maker uses Ruby too!
1Rogue
It's not THAT new, but it hasn't been popular in English culture as long as Asian, so it hasn't really been clearly documented
woahgold
While I agree with you partially, Ruby on Rails was literally invented by satan. Just use Ruby.
ninmonkey
I only program ASM on the Highway
Melanion
If I were still working in the field I would sit on a bed of coals coding Rails with toothpicks under my nails before I'd use Django.
HylianHer0
I like Django :(
Melanion
I really like Python. I really hate Django. It's like they took core ideas of a MVC framework, renamed them, and added unnecessary bullshit.
memesis
Ruby on Rails is a web application framework, Ruby is the language.
rockiesmagicnumber
I seriously need to start familiarizing myself with PERL, jQ, RoR, etc. I work in an entirely MS shop.
Iamnotacreativeman
Whoever you work for need to get with the times.
weeewoooweeewoooweeeewooooooooo
or i could just keep using objective c and swift and java and call it a day B)
khora
It's also slow.
cuddlez
It's not a language its a framework. Ruby is the language and the "on Rails" part just makes starting a project quicker.
OmegasParadox
Someone explain?
ihaxr
They're all niche platform / frameworks, basically: "yeah I'm a programmer, but you've probably never heard of the language I use"
flickerdart
Programming languages are like English for computers, because they don't understand regular English.
DemiXIII
Rubies are a new way to tell computers how to compute. People think Rubies is shit because hipsters use it and it is new.
WherePoetryComesToDie
Is it new, though? I remember reading a lot of buzz surrounding RoR back in... 08-09 or so? I could also be growing senile.
GlitterInTheDarkNearTheTannhauserGate
But seriously, aside from rails, what is it good for? *grabs popcorn*
slurmlover
just walk away
MADFOX
RoR is a relatively new language that is decent but also not many companies use it so nobody really knows it very well
SlapMySalmons
Is your username like the restaurant
MADFOX
There's a restaurant called madfox?? where??
icallpeopleJack
So why bother having a career in programming if you can't even stay on top of new tech?
devekokc
That would be impossible. There are limitless languages and techs, and as I have never needed to use RoR I don't know it either.
weeewoooweeewoooweeeewooooooooo
because i don't like to learn useless languages
icallpeopleJack
Doesn't seem very useless to the people using it.
copingcabana
People think it matters which programming language you use to create worthless drivel on the internet.
shittingmesoftly
Yay this comment I like
pizzamagica
As a PHP developer. THIS IS SO FUCKING ACCURATE ! HERE TAKE A FAKE INTERNET POINT !
TrashPandaMafia
hipsters gonna hate
IWishIWereNotAllergicToCats
PHP is the worst language I have seen that wasn't *designed* to be a shitty language, like brainfuck or some shit. It is such a pile of wank
SirQuackTheDuck
PHP is awesome, but that's just my opinion and apparenty it's wrong
SUPERUNIQUENAME
eww php...
StereotypicallyRidiculous
HOW DARE YOU SPEAK ITS NAME!
defkkkon
PHP should be dead. The future is in clientside javascript applications that retrieve bundles of zero-knowledge encrypted data from the 1/2
defkkkon
server/network/whatever 2/2
Torxed
How information is leaked 101 ^^
hette
Student here. We don't learn web development, but I need it. How do you save user input without PHP? Just databases?
omninonsense
You could use any language which has a library/implementation for the database you wish to use. PHP is just one of them.
hette
We're just using XML files right now. We want to write to them, but the only way we know is calling server-side PHP. Are there better ways?
MountainGoatInDisguise
You could try Ruby on Rails to save to your MongoDB.
hette
ty
someuser
JAVA SPRING ALL THE THING(s)
hette
JAVASPRING! Javaspring?
astex
Dude. PHP is terrible. There are books on why PHP is terrible. I know it has improved, but learn python or go or something. Yeesh.
rsminsmith
PHP, like any language, is great if you have competent developers.
brrrackobama
PHP is terrible all the way to the bank. Srsly. I know several langs well, PHP is among the worst. But I make very solid money in PHP.
Dunes8
r/ProgrammerHumor
Spacelyy
Thank you for reading for me.
tarataqa
r/Pr0gr4mmrH|_|m0r
hipu
No.
MisterMyst
+1 for removing e you hipsr you
ninmonkey
that url violates so many rules for naming code.
tarataqa
#NotAllURLs
SUPERUNIQUENAME
/r/( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Nateinthewild
4chan, homie.
Dunes8
I know. I was just saying which subreddit sent it over.
Nateinthewild
Oh yeah word.
lawrus
A subreddit didn't send it over. It was uploaded here.
Dunes8
Except it says (source) in the upper left, which means it came from Reddit. Granted you can't see that on mobile.
lawrus
It says "PhotonMan62" for me