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Nov 28, 2018 11:20 PM
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magicrhombus
ublock origin's "block element" feature often gets me past this nonsense.
Jensaw101
They probably aren't terribly upset that you left. You weren't contributing to their revenue anyways. They might be glad for the bandwidth.
McWheels
Truth!
ManMashine
"please disable adblocker" *disables adblocker and reloads page* "Please disable adblocker" Are you fucking kidding me????
ignimbrite
I once had a site ask me to uninstall adblocker to continue using it. I blacklisted the entire domain and haven't missed one thing.
JoeMetallic
I wouldn't need an adblocker if your ads weren't malicious.
Fistouille
And these notifications about this or that that hide the whole content, do they expect us to read them?
MartianPudding
I’s never the ones with a reasonable amount of adds either
CabLady
1/ found a little browser adon called reader view....doesn't work on all sites but on most of them...
CabLady
gets you past a lot of pay walls and almost all with that annoying disable blocker msg...miss the mid 90's free for all internet /2
green5275
Tip for websites: If you let me browse with adblock but make a point to ask nicely to be whitelisted without forcing me; I'll whitelist.
Quattroiv
I like adds just not intrusive one
UramboTauro
"Playback on Other Websites has Been Disabled by the Video Owner. Watch on YouTube" Never mind, I'm not so interested after all.
GetCurious
Double upvote plus
junkywithamonkey
You can also just disable your JavaScript to view their websites...ad free :D
HotdogNotHotdog
I recently discovered using Reader View on iPhone will often bypass it.
DarknessOfIce
I'm with y'all on the "ads pay for the site" thing. But I don't have adblocker. I have Firefox's block trackers and dangerous content on.
NotAPervert
If I can’t skip the ads, I skip the product.
SomeDetroitGuy
It is insane that you even refer to it as a product and then speak as if you think they want you to have it for free.
NotAPervert
I was referring to actual physical products or otherwise tangible goods. Like if I can’t skip a YouTube ad, whatever the ad was, not buying.
NotAPervert
What did you think I was referring to? Websites themselves?
noblesseoblige7
DavidBrooker
If I think a publication is excellent, I will pay a subscription just to support them. Never, ever to remove ads. That loses a customer.
TheCeilingIsLava
Not enough people pay for subscriptions, or enter their emails for anything. it opens you up to eternal spamnation.
DavidBrooker
One corollary of this is all my subscriptions are print, none are 'ad free viewing' subscriptions.
tpgreyknight
Your website is simply not that important to me, bye.
HiMyNameIsReggie
Bye.
Camelspotting
Our freeloading asses aren't important to them either.
slinkhi
that's where you're wrong, kiddo
HiMyNameIsReggie
Why?
NoUseYourName9000
Was looking for finger guns but this came b up so here...
Camelspotting
Maybe, depends on whether they already bought our info or need to steal it themselves.
Jensaw101
How so? This isn't television, where raw viewing numbers matter. YouTube, for example, tracks retention and whether an ad loads.
slinkhi
TL;DR - If you aren't paying for a product, then you are the product.
Jensaw101
There is only so much data to be mined, and attention is another resource. Besides, it seems wrong to encourage the former method.
GreenFox
? They weren't going to make money on you anyway, they won't miss you when you're gone.
TheMadOnion
Grease monkey is a hell of a tool.
xbxoxy
Lol upvote
Odballl
I use adblock to block adblock popups.
VeryEnthusiasticWalksThroughtheWoods
One of my favorite free anime sites became like this. Started with no ads and no pop ups when you click. Now has tons of porn ads and blocks
VeryEnthusiasticWalksThroughtheWoods
you if you have an adblocker installed for X amount of time. Stopped visiting as soon as it got that bad
Thesadaustraliancat
Kissanime ?
VeryEnthusiasticWalksThroughtheWoods
Right on the nose yeah
flarflarf
turns out that most websites aren't interested in just giving content away, apparently the DBAs and engineers want to get paid.
Gaidenninjacat
No on trusts ads because of all the Malware and intrusive ads. If you cant get use adblock whitelisted ads, maybe you dont deserve money.
flarflarf
I agree. No one should look at the web without adblock.
theGreedyMan
Madness
flarflarf
its like that simpsons episode where Comic Book Guy is like "I watch your show every night, so really you owe me."
asliceofpizza
valen00
Then they should invest their time and money in making ads that aren't 500 times the size of the content that hijack your browser and send/
flarflarf
i agree, the ad industry IS fundamentally broken.
valen00
you to malware sites. adblocks whitelist for unobtrusive advertising was a good compromise imo
Jensaw101
Paying with one's wallet used to mean forgoing the services of a business that didn't meet your standards.
HiMyNameIsReggie
Yes they should and if they don't you should not use the site. I think you are misunderstanding the argument. The point is not that 1/?
HiMyNameIsReggie
You should not use adblock, it's that if you use adblock theres no reason for them to care if you leave. 2/2
Mumalot
I dont mind Ads... but when the vast majority of them contain malware or just ruin the experience, no ty. --1
flarflarf
I'm not saying ads are good or that you should tolerate them.
Mumalot
slap an image on the side-of-the-page like they did in the old-days (like a newspaper)... DONT force ppl to watch a video before proceeding.
HiMyNameIsReggie
That's not the point. You are free to use ad block. Just dont act like websites give a shit if you leave while using it.
Mumalot
i wouldn't use adblock if it wasn't for the malware that most-ads contain. Seriously, a Friend mentioned malware and THAT was my breakingPt.
HiMyNameIsReggie
And that is totally fair.
flarflarf
no one should be using a web browser without adblock.
davernow
User who doesn't contribute revenue: *leaves*, Company: *doesn't care*, User:
green5275
Increased traffic can also mean increased shares on social media, increasing outreach, increasing revenue. So they must care a little.
BenjaminBanks
I mean, it's one thing having an advert on the side or bottom - but an obtrusive video that blasts full-volume when I'm quietly reading? Na.
HiMyNameIsReggie
Thank you.
valen00
website who has no users due to shitty ads driving them elsewhere
HiMyNameIsReggie
The point is allowing adblock wont change that outcome. Either way they make no money.
davernow
Users when they realize that website is making the exactly same revenue, but saving on hosting costs:
valen00
drive enough users away and your hosting costs go like *way* down
HiMyNameIsReggie
Yes. And your income does not go down because they were using adblock anyway. So again they should not care.
valen00
now think just one step further. When they drive *all* the users away what happens?
Jensaw101
If an adblock detector drives all their users away, then they weren't making any money to begin with.
valen00
It's not the adblock detector that drives the users away is it. It's the ads that prompt the users to use adblock.
SamuthNBS
omg finally a sensible comment that understands websites aren't free
SynMonger
Fuckem
Aesurah
I'd agree, but I want to see the website first to see if it is worth whitelisting.
SamuthNBS
That's fair :)
jetah
i haven't received a bill from imgur nor youtube.
SamuthNBS
No but they have ads, which pay for you to use the site. Basically you are paying with your time watching ads.
jetah
i have adblock. they aren't getting anything from me.
SamuthNBS
Adblock or no adblock they still get paid to feature ads on their site. Whether you see them or not.
HiMyNameIsReggie
These posts really bother me. Look if you are not generating income for the site then they don't give a fuck if you use it. If anything 1/?
HiMyNameIsReggie
They would probably prefer you leave so you dont use up their bandwidth without giving anything. 1/2
flarflarf
"oh no! my bandwidth bills have gone down slightly! What ever shall I do!" - the very distraught CEO
HiMyNameIsReggie
For big websites sure. But for small websites like webcomics or for startup businesses it matters.
SomeDetroitGuy
This is exactly "I won't pay you in cash but you can do this for me for exposure".
flarflarf
this is a very 1998 attitude towards revenue.
HiMyNameIsReggie
How do you mean?
flarflarf
1/ I mean just gaining eyeballs with no plan to make money off them is maybe not a great idea.
flarflarf
2/ You can't lose money on each customer and make up for it in customer volume.
flarflarf
3/ And saying "once we have the eyeballs we'll serve them ads" is really not that great of a plan, as shown by [waves hand at ad industry]
jetah
and many of those webcomics have patreon.
HiMyNameIsReggie
Sure, but that's not all that effective for a webcomic that is just starting out and does not have the fanbase needed for patreon.
jetah
they'd host the images here and hot link them. probably would use medium website until they get enough sponsors.
lspec
Yes, a reader base is worth money in more ways than just ads.
jjwk544
That’s why websites do those slideshow articles where you have to hit next page. Multiple clicks of revenue for 1 person reading 1 article.
Snickt
'tis true
FlyingButtPliers
That's cool. We just need an extension to load the slides for us all at once. I had a python script do something like that once
Orcus424
I remember having this insane leg cramp and getting one of those slideshows when asking what food helps leg cramps.
IsThisUsernameRelevant
Did you eventually get to a slide showing a banana?
Orcus424
I didn't have one so it didn't help that was the first image. I forgot what I ate but I remember the extreme pain and frustration.
MrMack303
Bar of soap in bed and bathing in epsom salt did helped for me. But I already ate bananas normally.
davernow
"clicks of revenue" < interesting concept. Please explain.
AllTheOtherNamesWereTaken1234567
If you split an article into 10 pages, that's 10 ads you can show them and claim revenue for instead of just 1.
TrappedShadows
Ten times* we all know those greasy ducks cram as many as as they can. 100 words of article and 20 adds per page
pianoNoodleTraveler
What happens when every site does this or asks for a subscription.
CaffeineManic
Usenet.
Snickt
Which is subscription based.
Jellyrabbit
Then it opens place for competition that doesn't do that and makes up for it by larger user base and additional or other monetization method
pianoNoodleTraveler
What other methods of monetization could be implemented?
JHawke
Then there will be more things like mastadon, sites hosted by the users as it should have been.
Steps1000
Make new websites. Many free open source programs exist because of the same phenomenon, because some tech people rely on is paywalled.
pianoNoodleTraveler
Comparing the free versions to most paid versions reveals how garbage they are. Open/libre office is trash compared to MsOffice.
Steps1000
Do you want free or 'good'? Nobody who is good will do it for free, and people doing it for free can't afford to make it good. That's life.
stresstwig
gotta throw out the whole internet.
jackpkmn
Advertisements don't have to be awful and predatory. Ad networks could police themselves for malvertisement. There are many things 1/2
jackpkmn
that should have been done before we got to this point let alone that point. 2/2
Lolzorski
There are anti-antiadblockers.
Snickt
You get your content somewhere else, there are always sites that repost stories for views.
SynMonger
The great thing is that it'll never happen.
irisewithredeyes
I'll white-list like 6 of them which I use regularly, and the others can go fuck themselves.
pianoNoodleTraveler
I bet over time this list will grow.
dolphinboynd
The internet ad bubble bursts.
pianoNoodleTraveler
What does that mean?
UsernameMcUsernameface
Disable your ads to disable my adblock
PersephoneGoddessOfSpring
I first read that as you saying adblock twice, so the first thing that came to mind was "no u"
keyonne
Ads are fine. So long as they don’t make noise, move my screen, or have those fucking fake buttons.
Poopoopeepeevagina
I don’t mind certain types of adds. Pop up adds are the ones where I lose my shit.
keyonne
And those redirection ads that try to pretend to be an antivirus. “Your computer is at risk! Click here to fix it” fuck off.
reload2456
Exactly a few shit sites cost so many others revenue because the majority of people aren't going to whitelist decent sites after installing
ThanosWasNotWrong
Cc: @imgur
ignimbrite
I did my time enduring pop-ups and drive-by virus delivery ads. Now everything gets uBlocked.
ShamelessSeamus
You should disable ad blockers on sites you frequent and trust with ads. It's what keeps them in business if you don't subscribe.
somecanuck2016
Prove it
HiMyNameIsReggie
...what? Do you think websites magically generate income from air?
DeltaBladeX
I had some sites I trusted with adverts. They were less than willing to make the effort to keep that trust when it came to pay day. Blocked.
TheWhiteRat
I used to do that until recently, when nasty malware for Linux became more common this year. Now I don't trust any of them.
wyatt8740
as a desktop linux user running mozilla (seamonkey, like firefox), I'm interested in reading about this malware. Got links?
HopfAlgebraJester
Source on rise of Malware for Linux?
ShamelessSeamus
That's always a risk. But so is the shutting down due to lack of ad money. Its part of why I have Malwarebytes do a scan every day.
oneeyedgod
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TheWhiteRat
Perhaps if everyone starves them of money because of malware danger, the ad networks will verify the safety of ads they run for once.