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Wasdu
I really don't want to see all this videos because it's breaking my heart and affects my mental health in a negative way. The killings has to stop
Unfortunate500
Holy false equivalency, Batman! Dresden killed 30,000 people in two days.
All this proves is that the Israelis are being insanely careful by comparison to these other events. Is that the message you want to be sending?
purpledd
I'm not claiming equivalency. But yeah, they're being so insanely careful that they bombed yet another UN school sheltering 6,000 displaced people https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/06/middleeast/israel-airstrike-un-school-gaza-intl-hnk
Taxian
It's actually not 234. Approx 1 million were evacuated/fled from the area, and in Rafah city (5500 hectares) there are currently an estimated 100,000 people (source: Associated Press Quoting OCHA https://apnews.com/article/israel-hamas-rafah-latest-06-03-2024-4531e5bc3af4b808352a48f5cbe68f60). So that means about 18.18 people per hectare (nowhere near 234).
TielKiri
While I think that’s important nuance to consider, it seems to me that Israel’s been bombing Rafa for a while. Their orders to evacuate came about a month ago, I think, and they’ve been bombing since then. Of course many have fled and now there are fewer people per hectare, but criticizing Israel’s decision to bomb them when there were more is still valid
TielKiri
Yeah, it seems the difference is that their link came from 4 weeks ago, back when they almost certainly *did* have those numbers, and yours is from a few days ago when of course they’ve all been fleeing the area (and, to be fair, dying) for a month. Their numbers were around 234/hectare, and now they’re probably closer to your number of ~18/hectare a month later
TheMoonBnuuy
"If you call it genocide, you're an antisemite"
Say the people who ignore the fact that a majority of Jews in Israel are against this and calling it "genocide"
Taxian
Most Jews in Israel aren't calling it a Genocide. They're angry about it because they want a hostage deal, and think a major military offensive will preclude that from happening.
TheMoonBnuuy
Either way they still don't want it happening. Neither do I. And not because it's antisemitic. I'm a humanitarian. What's happening here is a humanitarian crisis all around.
TheMoonBnuuy
Right... because the true antisemite here is someone who says Jews aren't evil, genocidal maniacs, not the person who says that they are.
Taxian
I don't want it happening either, but given what I've heard from military experts, it isn't genocide, and no court had decided that it is (despite what you may have heard). I try and refrain from using that loaded language. I have found it more helpful to speak to the Israelis i know about "what happens next?" rather than accusing them of being monsters for thinking they have to fight to defend their home (which is VERY much what they believe re: Hamas). More productive by far.
TheMoonBnuuy
Given the reports of what's happening, it is ethnic cleansing. Targeting innocent civilians, medical teams, journalists, telling the non-combatants to evacuate and then bombing where they evacuate to... It's ethnic cleansing. Only thing that will stop it without casualties is if they leave the land entirely, and that still counts as ethnic cleansing because the land will be ethnically cleansed of them.