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Jan 25, 2024 11:57 PM

TL;DR: The device lost its connection to the mothership and fumbled its landing on its last flight.

During its last flight, Ingenuity reached a maximum altitude of 40 feet (12 meters) and hovered above the surface of Mars for 4.5 seconds before starting its descent at a velocity of 3.3 feet per second (1 meter per second), according to NASA. Right before touching down on the Martian surface, however, Ingenuity lost contact with the Perseverance rover. Ingenuity relies on Perseverance to relay its communications to Earth, using shiny antennas to exchange data at about 100 kilobits per second. The data is routed from the Ingenuity-facing antenna to the rover’s main computer before being transferred to Earth by way of an orbiting spacecraft.

Without the help of ground control, Ingenuity may have fumbled its landing, resulting in the damage to its blades. NASA is still investigating the cause of the communication blackout.

https://gizmodo.com/nasa-mars-helicopter-ingenuity-breaks-blade-mission-end-1851198338

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2 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Congratulations to all involved in the mission. Truly an amazing, historic achievement. Percival Lowell and Robert Goddard would be gobsmacked by what you've done, as am I.

2 years ago | Likes 30 Dislikes 0

Was Wolowitz trying to impress a chick?

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Someday, we will find that drone on Mars, and it will be recovered, and enshrined in a museum.

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Oh cool, when I play a game in the future about Mars, and I see a broken drone... I'll get the reference now.

2 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

This means Perseverance will now be on its own, it's got to leave its little travel buddy behind. Though, I wonder how long Ingenuity will stay internally functional for. Because as long as it still receives power, it will likely keep its internals running. But without Perseverance to act as a relay, there will be no way for it to call back to earth.

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

It has friends in orbit, who are how it usually talks to us.
Besides, how can Percy ever be alone, with all of our hopes and dreams along for the ride?

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Yeah, but it can't see them, it used to get to hang out with its little buddy.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Perseverance is not involved in any flight calculations for Ingenuity. The helicopter controls its flight entirely onboard, including landing. Radio to Perseverance is only required for Ingenuity to talk to Earth after the fact

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Hallowed. Ground.
Well done to Ingenuity and it's team at JPL!
It was the best science, you've done two worlds proud.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! But what a success story

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I reckon that most terrestrial, never approach 2h of flight time before Yoteing themselves into a uncaringingly placed wall, shrubbery or body of water.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You'd think landing is something that it could use sensors to do on its own in the event of loss of communication. We have self driving cars that avoid nearby cars I would think this could land slowly knowing by sensors the best spot to set down.

7 months ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Ingenuity certainly did not rely on ground control from Earth; the lightspeed lag (measured in minutes) is far too long for that. I'm pretty sure it didn't even need comms with Perseverance for flight control; it only needed comms with Percy as a data relay.

2 years ago | Likes 95 Dislikes 0

The mothership of the rover.

2 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 5

Ingenuity does all flight processing onboard. Perseverance is only used as a relay to Earth for uplink and downlink

2 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Yeah, something got lost in the writing of a lot of articles on this. The communications drop wasn't the cause of the crash, it was a sign to ground control that something bad had happened.

2 years ago | Likes 45 Dislikes 0

Surely it's still under warranty, put a call in for a repair guy. Yes I said it. I can't get misty eyed over a piece of hardware.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Goal Achieved?

"Ingenuity flew on Mars. Now NASA will push it to the brink of destruction."
https://www.popsci.com/story/science/nasa-mars-ingenuity-helicopter-first-flight/

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

oh no someone send another bot to go help it :o

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I want to go on a road trip. Put me on Mars in a big rover packed with snacks, give me a good suit, and a robot arm. I'll fix all these little bastards. Dream job.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Its amazing how far away we cam litter

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

We were this close to putting bits of dead people on the moon last week.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Fun Fact: NASA put a tiny piece of the first plane, the Wright Flyer, on the Ingenuity - https://www.popsci.com/science/nasa-mars-helicopter-wright-brothers/

2 years ago | Likes 81 Dislikes 0

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That is a very fun fact. Thanks for sharing it.

2 years ago | Likes 33 Dislikes 0

Those brilliant bastards

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

what you get for not sending a maint crew and spare parts with it.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It’d be cool if they sent another far less advanced rover there, which had the capability to be a carrier for the super advanced flying robot. That way, if they wanted and was worth, could utilize the expensive, heavy and technical components which are allready on mars. But there are probably so many variables which instantly makes this proposal absurd. For example, I believe the drone was only supposed to complete 5 missions, yet it accomplished well over 50 last I read up on it. There for..

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

The flying robot isn't super advanced and doesn't have much worthwhile onboard, so that wouldn't be worth doing.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I was stil typing the second part of that, that’s where I was getting at, the technology onboard is likely so worn that the shear potential unreliability makes it not worth it

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I think the next aerial mission to Mars is going to include some very interesting tech.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The first martian family isn't there for no reason.
Eventually we'lll build a civilisation around the sites where they stand.
Not a carrier, a monument.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Damaged on its last flight you say.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

We literally just want health care! Here on Earth, you know.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

didn't they require the chopper to lateron be able return the soil samples back to earth ?

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I believe Ingenuity was just a tech demonstration. The return samples will be gathered by future missions, likely other helicopters.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

No, the drone was initially just a proof of concept test that did well enough it got repurposed as a scout for helping to plan the route of the main rover.

They didn't plan on it lasting more than 30 days originally.

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

The Mars sample return mission might use a drone but it will bring its own. Ingenuity doesn't have much capabilities, just a few engineering cameras and a thermometer.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Sad helicopter noises....

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

1 meter per second ≈ 2.2 miles per hour

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

3.3 feet ≈ 1.01 metres

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

2 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

"My battery is low, and it's getting dark"

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Send Elon to fix it. He said he'd be ready to land people on Mars around this time so we should hold him to that!

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

He is going there by hyperloop.

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Probably safer, although his last starship launch did make it to staging before it blew up. Any day now we're going to Mars!

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I can't get very excited about someone else's vanity project.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Can we send Matt Damon up there to fix it?

2 years ago | Likes 243 Dislikes 1

As long as he doesn't come back

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

Sending pirates is not what nasa would do

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

But who will get there and fix Damon?

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The Factorio player in me imagines them building a small factory there just to build a replacement blade, lol

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

That's not Matt Damon.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Not with the pittiful funding that congress gives NASA.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

he should have been done already if we had put him on call at location....

2 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

The rover could maybe cut roughly the same amount off the opposite end and it should be good for a few more flights if they need it for something, it's been done with manned helicopters in emergencies before so it should work here.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Who's gonna cut it?

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

The rover, as I suggested? Even if it doesn't have anything specifically for cutting I know it's at least got a rock drill and a scoop, it could drill a perforation pattern to then snap off with the clamshell scoop, the issue with flight with a damaged wing like this is the lift imbalance

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Only if he brings spare blades...

2 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

"Damn, I knew we forgot something!"

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Send Musk and Bezos first to clear the way of any asteroids by contact removal.

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

There comes a time, where eve.......

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

He's just gonna start doing his potato empire again.

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Please send him. For all our sakes! No more movies!

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

2 years ago | Likes 43 Dislikes 0

MATT DAMON!!

2 years ago | Likes 35 Dislikes 0

Wait, it only flew for 2 total hours?

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It flew for 2 hours, on its own, on *another planet*. That's the big part!

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

"only"

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I mean right but, the article says it's spent 3 years flying across Mars... and it logged 2 hours flight time in 3 years? I'm sure it's amazing but I'm just not understanding the purpose of flight on Mars if it's going to spend most of its time grounded.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The bulk of it's flights were spent scouting a path for the main rover, since it can travel much faster and over worse terrain to check how clear possible paths would be. This saves the rover a ton of time so it can eo more science and waste less travel time.

For reference, the helicopter could travel up to ~20mph, while the rover has a top speed around .1mph.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The purpose was only to test if a helicopter could work in such low density air. It was only able to fly for a few seconds each time.

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0