Mockler’s great but when they brought up Hunter Biden he brought up if Don Jr was being prosecuted and I WISH he had mentioned Kushner and Ivanka because they actually did what Hunter was being accused of. He’s good at taking them down though. I enjoy his YouTubes.
dude on the left, looks like someone that just want this kid to shut up, so he can go home to his milliondollar mansion and not think about the little people.
Adam Mockler is a great dude he does a lot of research on politics and voices the opinion and analysis against trump’s fascist regime here’s his Youtube https://youtube.com/@adammockler?
I recently discovered Adam Mockler and after 2 or 3 videos I subscribed. I have to say, this guy is quite young but VERY well read, well spoken, and has strong critical thinking skills.
But what's really great about Adam is that he has a talent for SPEAKING PLAINLY. He doesn't try to overwhelm with details. He sticks to the basics. And he knows how to counter right-wing deflection. He's VALUABLE to the democratic cause. 𝗙𝗢𝗟𝗟𝗢𝗪 𝗛𝗜𝗠! (please)
Like Bush on "terror", Trump declares war on "the Left", Kirk critics. COIN warfare ahead of 2026 elections- to preempt release of Epstein List?- major violent violation of US civil rights to "disrupt" Dem voters, election manipulation/voter suppression before 2026. ICE also just became the most heavily funded militarized police globally $200b budget for domestic militarized police /gallery/trump-vance-announce-new-war-on-left-what-will-be-like-what-has-already-been-0W9avpc 1/
You’re focusing on a 22 year old YouTuber is a great response. The other guy got baited hard, fell for it, and now looks like a grown man yelling in a bouncy castle.
It's a very simple concept: The president is supposed to represent every American, regardless of politics. We are not supposed to be on opposite teams. Yes, we can be on opposite sides of an issue and how to do what's best for our country, or even what is best for it, but for an American president to say that at least 1/3 to 2/3 of the country is the enemy within, that the entire political opposition are terrorists and demons is unconscionable. Worse that 77M americans bought into it. Twice.
Musk stealing data for use in Theil/Palantir targeting- voter suppression like Facebook/Cambridge Analytica in 2016, and SCL Elections since then but info on EVERY VOTER, EVERY CITIZEN- to build AI election influence and suppression models in every swing state, city. Possibly targeting disruption ops and deportations as well https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/30/peter-thie">mericans">https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/30/peter-thiel-palantir-threat-to-americans https://www.npr.org/2025/05/01/nx-s1-5372776/palantir-tech-contracts-trump 1/
The older guy's microexpressions-- amusement, feigning surprise- it's all a game to him- agitprop. "Agitprop, political strategy in which the techniques of agitation and propaganda are used to influence and mobilize public opinion." Miriam-Webster. 1/
Idk who that CNN pundits is, but he can fuck right off. You can see in his eyes that he isn't in any way interested in what this young man has to say, he is only looking for opportunities to cut him down and negate his talking points without any greater logistical retort than, "nuh-uh"
For a young man, Mockler really can bring it. Just watched his clip on this panel interview. The dude opposite him is a joke. Nothing but talking points and falsities.
Mockler has done his homework. He really has a talent for looking through right-wing attacks and countering them with just basic, clear arguments. It makes it very hard for the opposition to refute him. More Left leaning podcasters need to follow this strategy.
This is why they created Fox News in the first place. Can't argue with facts ("facts have a well-known liberal bias"), so you remove the facts and create your own.
Scott Jennings is a sack of vapid dog shit. All he does is repeat republican talking points. He was brought to CNN years ago to improve their standing amongst right-wingers. But now that they've given up and become Fox Lite, they might as well just jettison Jennings.
I've seen him fumble a couple arguments and have poor research work against him but a couple more years of practice and he'll be unstoppable. Probably my favourite responses from him are when the argument is so stupid he just laughs and refuses to engage.
This video is actually sitting on my YT recommended right now. Mockler is incredible as is Medhi at taking these dudes to task when faced opposite them. They do what every reporter and interviewer over the last decade seems to be too afraid too: not accept spin/deflections/bs as an acceptable answer.
i wish youtube didnt force him and other to make clickbaity titles. i was hesitant to start watching him over it at 1st. now if him and midas could create some videos that were condensed, id like it more. sometimes i dont have the time or the desire to go through 90mins of content that will have the same points brought up. i do appreciate them including clips and sources, just not when its same stuff for several videos.
Probably helps he wasn't hired by tue entertainment media / legacy media and has to play ball or else end up on the street. It's important to remember that the reporters that would like to hold people in power accountable are also the enemy of the billionaires that own the media, and thus will not be given a platform by these companies. You can be sure this guy also won't show up on show again but will be ridiculed in his absence.
A very "manly" concerned dumb face, though. Just like the alcoholic news host in the department of defense. People love this, they adore it, because It's the face of a fictional hero who solves it all with a fist and a gun. From John Wayne to Clint Eastwood, they all faced lethal threats with exactly this expression. But yeah, on the inside there is most probably always just the big empty void.
Trump has been a racist all his life just like his filthy father they were both convicted of racist crimes in the 80s he just became worse over the years by being a nazi and a pedo
Can we stop calling it the department of war. It's not the department of war. The president doesn't have that authority. At best he can change the letter head on documents.
Him calling it the "Department of War" was actually a good move here. It reinforces the negative connotation of the immediately following point: the National Guard invading Chicago.
Please. Republicans are raping children all the time. I'm sure they're still accommodating orange turdler's sick needs. They've done everything they want with impunity for months now.
If you think he stopped, you're sorely mistaken. He's flown 69 times unrelated to his job in 2025 alone, not including the international flights. Majority being Virginia by twice as much as Florida.
I wonder if the pedophilia is to try and make himself look bigger in comparison to his victim, rather than purely due to age. They'd probably put up less of a fight than an adult as well.
Probably because it's illegal but he can get away with it thanks to his money and status, it's a power move. And I suspect most of Epstein's clients were like that. It's an ultra rich version of smoking Cuban cigars or buying ivory.
I don't think Trump created the environment, he just thrived off of it and made it the norm. Conservatives have always used the same rhetoric, it's just now it has grown into a monster that they can't control anymore.
Somebody IS controlling it.... those with enough money and power, who believe thay can coax the country into a dictatorship of monopolies, with an obidient clown as the pres.
seems the soil was fertile before Trump came and planted his poisonous crop, but it grew strong under him and now the USA is as good as gone. The next few years will bring a lot of pain and death to the USA thanks to Trump.
Go back to 1990, at least. Newt Gingrich's GOPAC sent Repub candidates a pamphlet called "Language: A Key Mechanism of Control." Taught GOP candidates they didn't have to tell the truth about their opponents. Taught them to use words like "common-sense,""courage,"and "reform" about conservative things; and "betray," "pathetic" and "hypocrisy" about liberal things. https://theamericanleader.org/timeline-event/language-a-key-mechanism-of-control/
He had a big hand in being a catalyst for making it worse, but this has been a long time coming.
I remember the US being seen as the crazy and fanatic peoples place here in Europe place since around the post 9/11 era. But that could simply be because i was too young before that.
No he didn't create it. It has been a slowly crafted monster since Reagan, trump just fit the outline of that monster perfectly. While they did lose control most of them are more upset by the control than any of the policies.
The biggest danger to them personally is how mercurial his moods are, so if you're a talker he might take offense.
So you just gotta stay low and pop up to get your bill pushed through then fade back into the shadows
I will state it again. Republicans and their propaganda stages have been spreading lies for decades culminating for an oligarchic power grab. What Trump did was hijack it all for a fascist ideology, because corporatism, fascism, and oligarchy, are all shades of a general power grab.
Trump stuck with their Oligarchic schemes in his first administration, but he lost power. He split the party, pushed out much of the old guard, and decided on full fascism.
Right, and now they're slowly shifting from him or at the very least trying to fight him in ways that don't put them in the hot seat. Not that I don't mind them all get scorched because of their selfishness and greed.
41 yo. It was NOTHING like this until he came along. Bush ran as a "compassionate conservative" and said Democrats were good people. McCain did the same. Romney, same. Trump is THE GUY. Before him, pundits, okay, but major party leaders didn't do this shit until him
43 yo, here. What Bush and Co did do is let others do the talking and the lying and the slander for them. Conservative TV and talk radio was just as much a festering sore on American politics then as it is today. They have been like this for many, many years. It's just that now say the quieter parts out loud more often and at higher volume.
It's what they do. It's like Trump and every rw pundit blaming the left immediately after Kirk was shot and before anyone was captured. ...but let Jimmy Kimmel say the killer was maga after seeing he was raised by gun toting maga parents and they flop around with outrage like beached epileptic mackerel.
He never even claimed he was MAGA. All he said was the right have been desperately painting the shooter as not right wing which is 100% factual. The right were shouting how the left have finally done it, the left have declared war, it had to be someone from the left. Then they found out the kid was from a MAGA household.
Kimmel said Trump didn't care about Kirk, and that he was just using his death for political gain. Absolutely nothing about the shooter or the victim, just that it was being politicized in bad faith.
That quote agrees with the person you are replying to. It doesn't say the shooter was MAGA. It describes MAGA pundits and politicians attempts to identify him with all of the people they would like him to be affiliated with. Which is true, since they began declaring his motivations well before anyone could have possibly known anything. You can argue that it implies the killer was, or could be, MAGA but it doesn't say that
Naah...It does say the shooter was from the right, "one of them." What else would he be saying after first stating the right was quick to accuse the shooter of being on the left.
He doesn't use "one of them" to describe the shooter. Only to talk about how MAGA was characterising him as "anything but that". As I said, you can take his words as implying that the shooter was MAGA and he could have added "we still don't know all the details of what inspired this killing..." to be extra safe but why the fuck should he have? He was pretty responsible with his words and criticising the naked politicising of the killing and was more respectful to Kirk's memory than he deserves
Yes. That is a separate thing. Lets change the context.
"My parents told me Santa is real."
The only question is "Did my parents say that or not?" If they did, then it is true to claim they said it. At no point are we concerned if what they claim is factually accurate or not. If Santa is real or Santa is not real doesn't change the fact my parents claimed Santa was real.
We change the context to remove the emotional attachment. If Jimmy actually said that, you are going to need to post a clip because so far, no he didn't.
Bring this back to what Jimmy said. To condense "The right told everyone the killer is not one of them." That is factually correct. To say that Jimmy is saying the killer is far right is not factually correct. Again, we're not examining if the statement is true or not, just if it was said. And boy was it said.
Maybe we saw different quotes. I saw "“….the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them….”
tidepool
Mockler’s great but when they brought up Hunter Biden he brought up if Don Jr was being prosecuted and I WISH he had mentioned Kushner and Ivanka because they actually did what Hunter was being accused of. He’s good at taking them down though. I enjoy his YouTubes.
OhIfIMust
Right out of the fucking playbook.
TheOneThatGotBanned
dude on the left, looks like someone that just want this kid to shut up, so he can go home to his milliondollar mansion and not think about the little people.
SuperMarioToadsShrillVoice
Lets go Adam! A young voice standing up to the regime.
Calicoastin818
Adam Mockler is a great dude he does a lot of research on politics and voices the opinion and analysis against trump’s fascist regime here’s his Youtube https://youtube.com/@adammockler?
CocaineAndSelfPleasure
Thanks for the link! He is eloquent and has clearly done his research.
Tunica
Scott Jennings is a piece of shit. He's just in it for the money. He'd argue a dog turd was gold if you paid him enough
cytherians
I recently discovered Adam Mockler and after 2 or 3 videos I subscribed. I have to say, this guy is quite young but VERY well read, well spoken, and has strong critical thinking skills.
But what's really great about Adam is that he has a talent for SPEAKING PLAINLY. He doesn't try to overwhelm with details. He sticks to the basics. And he knows how to counter right-wing deflection. He's VALUABLE to the democratic cause. 𝗙𝗢𝗟𝗟𝗢𝗪 𝗛𝗜𝗠! (please)
sippitsparingly
see also Luke Beasley, David Pakman and Keith Edwards.
michaelfire
Like Bush on "terror", Trump declares war on "the Left", Kirk critics. COIN warfare ahead of 2026 elections- to preempt release of Epstein List?- major violent violation of US civil rights to "disrupt" Dem voters, election manipulation/voter suppression before 2026. ICE also just became the most heavily funded militarized police globally $200b budget for domestic militarized police /gallery/trump-vance-announce-new-war-on-left-what-will-be-like-what-has-already-been-0W9avpc 1/
michaelfire
Intel/oligarchy https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/07/the-great-bemocracy">https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/07/the-great-british-brexit-robbery-hijaritish-b">emocracy">https://www.theguardian.com/tcked-dem">ritish-b">emocracy">https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/07/the-great-brit">echnolog">cked-dem">ritish-b">emocracy">https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/07/the-great-british-brexit-robbery-hijacked-democracy https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201719/cmselect/cmcumeds/1791/179110.htm https://thehill.com/hilltv/3566225-reporter-facebook-using-ex-cia-to-decide-misinformation-policy-is-very-very-worrying/ https://www.wired.com/story/facebook-knows-more-about-you-than-cia/ http://qz.com/1239762/cambridge-analytica-scandal-all-the-countries-where-scl-elections-claims-to-have-worked
boognish115
You’re focusing on a 22 year old YouTuber is a great response. The other guy got baited hard, fell for it, and now looks like a grown man yelling in a bouncy castle.
DrewK98
Echos Jon Stewart on Crossfire, "You're on CNN. The show that leads into me is puppets making crank phone calls. What is wrong with you?"
ImHereToExplainTheJoke
It's a very simple concept: The president is supposed to represent every American, regardless of politics. We are not supposed to be on opposite teams. Yes, we can be on opposite sides of an issue and how to do what's best for our country, or even what is best for it, but for an American president to say that at least 1/3 to 2/3 of the country is the enemy within, that the entire political opposition are terrorists and demons is unconscionable. Worse that 77M americans bought into it. Twice.
thedudeman519
"I do not take any responsibility at all" - POTUS while people were dying of COVID
michaelfire
Musk stealing data for use in Theil/Palantir targeting- voter suppression like Facebook/Cambridge Analytica in 2016, and SCL Elections since then but info on EVERY VOTER, EVERY CITIZEN- to build AI election influence and suppression models in every swing state, city. Possibly targeting disruption ops and deportations as well https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/30/peter-thie">mericans">https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jun/30/peter-thiel-palantir-threat-to-americans https://www.npr.org/2025/05/01/nx-s1-5372776/palantir-tech-contracts-trump 1/
michaelfire
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/15/world/europe/will-lewis-records-uk-editor.html tor.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/15/world/europe/will-lewis-records-uk-editor.html<http://w">tor.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/15/world/europe/will-lew/a> http">http://w">tor.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/15/world/europe/will-lewis-recor<">is-recor">/a> http">http://w">tor.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/15/world/europe/will-lewis-recor</a>ds-uk-editor.html http://www.businessinsider.com/jd-vance-peter-thiel-accused-of-illegally-coordinating-on-election-2022-6 https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/17/data-war-whistleblower-christopher-wylie-faceook-nix-bannon-trump http://digitalcommons.fiu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1220&context=classracecorporatepower https://thehill.com/hilltv/3566225-reporter-facebook-using-ex-cia-to-decide-misinformation-policy-is-very 2
michaelfire
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/07/the-great-bemocracy">https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/07/the-great-british-brexit-robbery-hijaritish-b">emocracy">https://www.theguardian.com/tcked-dem">ritish-b">emocracy">https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/07/the-great-briti">echnolog">cked-dem">ritish-b">emocracy">https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/07/the-great-british-brexit-robbery-hijacked-democracy https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201719/cmselect/cmcumeds/1791/179110.htm https://thehill.com/hilltv/3566225-reporter-facebook-using-ex-cia-to-decide-misinformation-policy-is-very-very-worrying/ https://www.wired.com/story/facebook-knows-more-about-you-than-cia/ https://qz.com/1239762/cambridge-analytica-scandal-all-the-countries-where-scl-elections-claims-to-have-worked
philmoregraves
Imagine getting schooled on your own show by a 22 year old YouTuber
ButtscratchMcPherson
Scott Jennings is just a moronic sack of crap.
Comet260
So is Jillian Michaels.
ButtscratchMcPherson
Yes but she doesn't have control over a significant amount of CNN's political coverage.
ravenous52
This kid fucks.
Wrinkle666
They weren't expecting a bright informed debater hahahahaha
michaelfire
The older guy's microexpressions-- amusement, feigning surprise- it's all a game to him- agitprop. "Agitprop, political strategy in which the techniques of agitation and propaganda are used to influence and mobilize public opinion." Miriam-Webster. 1/
michaelfire
Intel/oligarchy https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/07/the-great-bemocracy">https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/07/the-great-british-brexit-robbery-hijaritish-b">emocracy">https://www.theguardian.com/tcked-dem">ritish-b">emocracy">https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/07/the-great-brit">echnolog">cked-dem">ritish-b">emocracy">https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/07/the-great-british-brexit-robbery-hijacked-democracy https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201719/cmselect/cmcumeds/1791/179110.htm https://thehill.com/hilltv/3566225-reporter-facebook-using-ex-cia-to-decide-misinformation-policy-is-very-very-worrying/ https://www.wired.com/story/facebook-knows-more-about-you-than-cia/ http://qz.com/1239762/cambridge-analytica-scandal-all-the-countries-where-scl-elections-claims-to-have-worked
FreePalestineAndTheWorldFromIsrael
Trump is Homelander without the powers.
Cthulhuonabike
Idk who that CNN pundits is, but he can fuck right off. You can see in his eyes that he isn't in any way interested in what this young man has to say, he is only looking for opportunities to cut him down and negate his talking points without any greater logistical retort than, "nuh-uh"
StarscreamAndHutch
For a young man, Mockler really can bring it. Just watched his clip on this panel interview. The dude opposite him is a joke. Nothing but talking points and falsities.
Bollramm
Surprised Potter?
ButtscratchMcPherson
Scott Jennings. Massive sack of crap, former GOP staffer/advisor. Just a total douche.
Unclescam
Honestly...having the "I was 12" line goes really hard.
cytherians
Mockler has done his homework. He really has a talent for looking through right-wing attacks and countering them with just basic, clear arguments. It makes it very hard for the opposition to refute him. More Left leaning podcasters need to follow this strategy.
LordHelmetTheThird
This is why they created Fox News in the first place. Can't argue with facts ("facts have a well-known liberal bias"), so you remove the facts and create your own.
LitterBoxKing
Scott Jennings is a sack of vapid dog shit. All he does is repeat republican talking points. He was brought to CNN years ago to improve their standing amongst right-wingers. But now that they've given up and become Fox Lite, they might as well just jettison Jennings.
BDSMThroatHugs
I've seen him fumble a couple arguments and have poor research work against him but a couple more years of practice and he'll be unstoppable.
Probably my favourite responses from him are when the argument is so stupid he just laughs and refuses to engage.
MostAwesomeDan
This video is actually sitting on my YT recommended right now. Mockler is incredible as is Medhi at taking these dudes to task when faced opposite them. They do what every reporter and interviewer over the last decade seems to be too afraid too: not accept spin/deflections/bs as an acceptable answer.
ProjectDA
i wish youtube didnt force him and other to make clickbaity titles. i was hesitant to start watching him over it at 1st. now if him and midas could create some videos that were condensed, id like it more. sometimes i dont have the time or the desire to go through 90mins of content that will have the same points brought up. i do appreciate them including clips and sources, just not when its same stuff for several videos.
neithermenoryou
Probably helps he wasn't hired by tue entertainment media / legacy media and has to play ball or else end up on the street. It's important to remember that the reporters that would like to hold people in power accountable are also the enemy of the billionaires that own the media, and thus will not be given a platform by these companies. You can be sure this guy also won't show up on show again but will be ridiculed in his absence.
xj4low
Make sure to subscribe to help with his channel funding.
RevengeIsIceCream
Don't worry, it'll be demonetized soon anyway. That's what usually happens, isn't it?
xj4low
Why?
RevengeIsIceCream
Well I hope it won't happen, but I've heard of similar channels that have had troubles because they weren't "following guidelines"
iwishjtmoneywasstillavailableitsmyoldvideogamemoniker
Be nice, the opposing guy is also making a dumb face the whole time he's not able to talk over the YT person.
ImaThnake
BwianOfNazareth
A very "manly" concerned dumb face, though. Just like the alcoholic news host in the department of defense. People love this, they adore it, because It's the face of a fictional hero who solves it all with a fist and a gun. From John Wayne to Clint Eastwood, they all faced lethal threats with exactly this expression.
But yeah, on the inside there is most probably always just the big empty void.
SecondSince
The should fix that by putting a hole in it.
LogicalLimes
I hate to admit it, but I felt a bit of joy by watching him just seethe on the inside.
DirtBagLefty
Somebody give that kid a kiss and a pat on the head.
ouhhmytralalamydingdingdong
whatsthisbuttondonow
Trump has been a racist all his life just like his filthy father they were both convicted of racist crimes in the 80s he just became worse over the years by being a nazi and a pedo
FaeVikingPrincess
Can we stop calling it the department of war. It's not the department of war. The president doesn't have that authority. At best he can change the letter head on documents.
wwny
Him calling it the "Department of War" was actually a good move here. It reinforces the negative connotation of the immediately following point: the National Guard invading Chicago.
ogdm
Adam Mockler is great.
SupaPat
Fucking Jennings. Wish the worst on him
Peden1
"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn't lose any voters, OK?"
itsthevoiceman
Crazy thing is, he wants the death penalty for someone who actually pulled that off.
tachyx
Although he has not literally done this, everyone knows this is true, yet believe peaceful protest would work even though we've given it 9 years.
thesameasyours
Trunp is just mad because he can't rape children anymore
jilllaw444
Lol trump with different strategies
MrFrAnK9000
Considering the people who serve him, he could easily ask for a child and one would be deliver to him.
Dracology
whos stopping him? Doesn't seem like the government would be
Nephytis
....yeah.....you don't stop doing that without ending up being dead or in jail.
newwoolmonosta
.... well, not as one-stop-shop as he used to, anyhow.
TiredBanana
Please. Republicans are raping children all the time. I'm sure they're still accommodating orange turdler's sick needs. They've done everything they want with impunity for months now.
Comet260
Greedy Old Pedophiles.
TheCarolingian
How long before he proudly signs an executive order bringing the age of consent down to...12?
EmeRgencyDrD
12 Seems a little high for the magas.
albertapaws2000
Who says? Given the chance, and drugs, he very well could again. No doubt he dreams of it.
StarscreamAndHutch
His daughter grew up.
dendiverdown
His body aged out, but he still has the desire to do so
halliemeinecke
In the words of Zapp Branigan, "the spirit is willing, but the flesh is spongy and bruised."
IhopeUgetwhatUvoted4
Why would you think he can't rape anyone? It is impossible for him to commit a crime and he has a private army.
dontrike
There's no guarantee he's not still doing it. I wouldn't be surprised to find he did during either presidency, or the gap in between.
TexMexHex
Whacha think he is doing, really doin, on all those "golf" trips?
lurkertron5000
I think you'll find he has the drugs to do it more now
MotoCanuck
If you think he stopped, you're sorely mistaken. He's flown 69 times unrelated to his job in 2025 alone, not including the international flights. Majority being Virginia by twice as much as Florida.
absolutelymad
What's in Virginia
MotoCanuck
I assume lots of children
absolutelymad
Gottem
BenderRodriguz1010
Wtf makes you think he stopped? LOL
secretdpp
None of his aides will get him out of the diapers anymore
Zeterai
He's so heavily medicated right now that I doubt he's physically capable of doing so.
newwoolmonosta
He has tiny, bruised up hands still.
Zeterai
I wonder if the pedophilia is to try and make himself look bigger in comparison to his victim, rather than purely due to age. They'd probably put up less of a fight than an adult as well.
SalmonTheWise
Probably because it's illegal but he can get away with it thanks to his money and status, it's a power move. And I suspect most of Epstein's clients were like that. It's an ultra rich version of smoking Cuban cigars or buying ivory.
IgnisAurumProbat
Impotence made him stop. Nothing short of being unable to would do.
FetteredJuvenescence
Impotence has never stopped a rapist.
dendiverdown
He’d shit all over them?
ThatPug
He could do that during a speech in full view and not lose a single vote.
Bigblackdick69
Her parents will still vote for him too.
mcmachack
They would probably toss a couple more on stage for him too
StrangePaegan
Their own kids.
mcmachack
The Secret Pizza Basement was at Ma-Lar-Go all along
absolutelymad
I'm getting sick
Onetonmanwithaspoon
I don't think Trump created the environment, he just thrived off of it and made it the norm. Conservatives have always used the same rhetoric, it's just now it has grown into a monster that they can't control anymore.
frontseatdog
Semantics. If I pour gasoline on a fire until it's a wildfire, I created the wildfire.
pmulax086
Somebody IS controlling it.... those with enough money and power, who believe thay can coax the country into a dictatorship of monopolies, with an obidient clown as the pres.
bububub2
Rupert Murdock created it. And capitalism created him and the tools he used. The media is and always will be the main weapon.
Gerbergerflerberhgher
seems the soil was fertile before Trump came and planted his poisonous crop, but it grew strong under him and now the USA is as good as gone. The next few years will bring a lot of pain and death to the USA thanks to Trump.
copperdomebodhi
Go back to 1990, at least. Newt Gingrich's GOPAC sent Repub candidates a pamphlet called "Language: A Key Mechanism of Control." Taught GOP candidates they didn't have to tell the truth about their opponents. Taught them to use words like "common-sense,""courage,"and "reform" about conservative things; and "betray," "pathetic" and "hypocrisy" about liberal things. https://theamericanleader.org/timeline-event/language-a-key-mechanism-of-control/
alrightalrightalrightpartyatthemoontower
If it was not already a part of them, Trump would not be in position of power. They were looking for someone to take down guardrails and sow chaos.
TrueNorthernLights
No, he created it. I've never been a fan of Republicans, but before Trump there were still lines they would not cross.
mercyPandaRunner
He had a big hand in being a catalyst for making it worse, but this has been a long time coming.
I remember the US being seen as the crazy and fanatic peoples place here in Europe place since around the post 9/11 era. But that could simply be because i was too young before that.
lackinglife
No he didn't create it. It has been a slowly crafted monster since Reagan, trump just fit the outline of that monster perfectly. While they did lose control most of them are more upset by the control than any of the policies.
The biggest danger to them personally is how mercurial his moods are, so if you're a talker he might take offense.
So you just gotta stay low and pop up to get your bill pushed through then fade back into the shadows
Stefnos
waaay before Reagan... since the early oil gold cattle baron days
VictusVonGuyver
I will state it again. Republicans and their propaganda stages have been spreading lies for decades culminating for an oligarchic power grab. What Trump did was hijack it all for a fascist ideology, because corporatism, fascism, and oligarchy, are all shades of a general power grab.
Trump stuck with their Oligarchic schemes in his first administration, but he lost power. He split the party, pushed out much of the old guard, and decided on full fascism.
Onetonmanwithaspoon
Right, and now they're slowly shifting from him or at the very least trying to fight him in ways that don't put them in the hot seat. Not that I don't mind them all get scorched because of their selfishness and greed.
shitheadtookmyname
41 yo. It was NOTHING like this until he came along. Bush ran as a "compassionate conservative" and said Democrats were good people. McCain did the same. Romney, same. Trump is THE GUY. Before him, pundits, okay, but major party leaders didn't do this shit until him
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TexMexHex
Fuck. Newt. Gingrich.
Thatsadownvotin
43 yo, here. What Bush and Co did do is let others do the talking and the lying and the slander for them. Conservative TV and talk radio was just as much a festering sore on American politics then as it is today. They have been like this for many, many years. It's just that now say the quieter parts out loud more often and at higher volume.
UnattendedDeviant
It's what they do. It's like Trump and every rw pundit blaming the left immediately after Kirk was shot and before anyone was captured. ...but let Jimmy Kimmel say the killer was maga after seeing he was raised by gun toting maga parents and they flop around with outrage like beached epileptic mackerel.
aristera
He never even claimed he was MAGA. All he said was the right have been desperately painting the shooter as not right wing which is 100% factual. The right were shouting how the left have finally done it, the left have declared war, it had to be someone from the left.
Then they found out the kid was from a MAGA household.
Zeterai
It's worse than even that.
Kimmel said Trump didn't care about Kirk, and that he was just using his death for political gain. Absolutely nothing about the shooter or the victim, just that it was being politicized in bad faith.
UnattendedDeviant
Based on his quote though "...desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them."
itsthevoiceman
The relevance is this part: "desperately trying to characterize this kid ... as anything other than one of them."
Youhavinagiraffe
That quote agrees with the person you are replying to. It doesn't say the shooter was MAGA. It describes MAGA pundits and politicians attempts to identify him with all of the people they would like him to be affiliated with. Which is true, since they began declaring his motivations well before anyone could have possibly known anything. You can argue that it implies the killer was, or could be, MAGA but it doesn't say that
UnattendedDeviant
I think that's a bit too much nuance. He said the killer was "one of them". "Them" is maga.
VoidedResurrection
Naah...It does say the shooter was from the right, "one of them." What else would he be saying after first stating the right was quick to accuse the shooter of being on the left.
Youhavinagiraffe
He doesn't use "one of them" to describe the shooter. Only to talk about how MAGA was characterising him as "anything but that". As I said, you can take his words as implying that the shooter was MAGA and he could have added "we still don't know all the details of what inspired this killing..." to be extra safe but why the fuck should he have? He was pretty responsible with his words and criticising the naked politicising of the killing and was more respectful to Kirk's memory than he deserves
aristera
Yes. That is a separate thing. Lets change the context.
"My parents told me Santa is real."
The only question is "Did my parents say that or not?" If they did, then it is true to claim they said it. At no point are we concerned if what they claim is factually accurate or not. If Santa is real or Santa is not real doesn't change the fact my parents claimed Santa was real.
UnattendedDeviant
Why change the context. Kimmel said the killer was "one of them". "Them" is maga. Not much nuance there. He suggested the killer was from the right.
aristera
We change the context to remove the emotional attachment.
If Jimmy actually said that, you are going to need to post a clip because so far, no he didn't.
aristera
Bring this back to what Jimmy said. To condense "The right told everyone the killer is not one of them." That is factually correct. To say that Jimmy is saying the killer is far right is not factually correct. Again, we're not examining if the statement is true or not, just if it was said. And boy was it said.
UnattendedDeviant
Maybe we saw different quotes. I saw "“….the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them….”