notasmokealarm
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Yeah, this happened today.
Got my dream job doing activities at a retirement home. During phone interview, say I need full time. No problem, they say. During in-person interview, again say that I need this to be full time. Again, no problem, we can get you full time.
I get hired. Yay! While signing the paperwork, notice it says part time. Part time? Concerned, I question this. Oh, everyone is part time for the first 90 days. It’s a probationary period.
Seriously?! SEVERAL times I said I needed this to be full time. And each time I was assured I would get full time. At no point did anyone say anything at all to me about this “probationary period” where you are forced to be part time for 3 months. Had I known they would do this, I would have refused. Which is probably exactly why they didn’t tell me.
While they didn’t full on lie to me, they also didn’t give me the whole truth. I was honest and up front with them the whole time. A little reciprocation there would have been nice. And I am not happy about that at all. Ah well. Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
TheobromineAddict
And no benefits for 90 days, right?
aCheekyFingerUpTheBum
Walk away fast
ProffesorGoogle
Hospital did the same kinda shit to me when I was hired, scumbagy tactics to secure positions.
ZeroZeta
2 weeks in, how is it going? Did you run?
gordy77
Write it into the contract and have them sign. If they refuse, walk.
funone77
If they fuck/lie to you at the beginning they're setting the tone for the entire relationship. Don't walk away. RUN.
Sethiusalpha
True outside of employment, too.
sigurd768
Yeah, if they lie to you up front I have no confidence they’re good employers.
babblefishe
If they fuck to you at the beginning I would be deeply concerned what job you’re applying for, be it prostitution or stripping.
notasmokealarm
N0S4A2
I was just about to comment with that gif and: RUN! Don't walk away.
SayRamrod
a company will never treat you better than when they are trying to hire you
BackPackJohniee
Has to make you wonder what else they're not telling you? Good luck OP. I honestly hope this works out for you.
notasmokealarm
I’m wondering this too. I give transparency in all, and expect the same. I want it to work out, but they broke my trust very early.
Everyonesfavorite
I really feel ya, hope you find something that works for you where you can shine as a good helper!
Heavenissize17socks
Yes, they full on completely lied to you. (Part time means no insurance)
lloyd2288
You have to decide if their deceit makes it become not your dream job.
notasmokealarm
It was my dream job. Now I’m already thinking of moving on. If they lie about this, what else are they lying about?
RevLegoFoot
ElioNope
"While they didn't full on lie to me..." They did. Full time later is not full time now. They have shown they do not care about your needs--
ElioNope
-nor do they care to communicate openly and fairly. Probation is to confirm they trust you, but they've given you no reason to trust them.
dmTim
Spend your off time looking for another gig. If you get a better offer you can leave or if they’ve earned your trust stay.
hatmix76
Always be looking for your next job.
narcoleptiKnickers
Fuck that's a big red flag.
Everfearful
They started lying to you on day 1. This could just as easily turn out to be an 89 day temp position if they feel like it. Bail.
hightechpirate
Talk to some of the people who have been there a while. If there aren't any, that should be a red flag
notasmokealarm
I will. I’m back there again next Monday.
threyon
A lie of omission is still a lie.
ThanatosElNyx
"". Oops, sorry didn't mean to lie.
Shaodyn
I hate to be the voice of doom, but if they're willing to spring this on you, there's a chance they've got other shady shit going on.
Shaodyn
What else aren't they telling you and/or what else are they willing to force on you?
Kahoko
Part time part seems fishy. 90 day probationary period has been pretty standard in my experience.
Iusethisreallylongusernamebecauseihavenocluewhatusernametouse
At full time. Haven't had a conditional part time probationary period
Delerium1973
Walk away. Dream job maybe, definitely not your dream employer. What else aren't they telling you?
Madchant
This is a hazing technique that insures they only get timid souls with imposter syndrome who they can abuse. Know your worth and WALK.
notasmokealarm
I may have imposter syndrome, but they managed to wake up the angry part of me that has long been dormant.
OverMyDadBody
Then use that energy to quit and look for an honest employer
TalleyZorah
FYI, they do not need a reason to fire you within the first 90 days of employment. This exact scenario happened to me.
ItchyHuevos
KNOW YOUR WORTH!!!
notasmokealarm
It’s not this. Much as I would have liked it to be. ☹️I was actually super excited to sign the paperwork today. That just shit on my mood.
CraftyGiant
Walk, they lied to your face, get out now.
UghItsThatGuy
If you didn't get it in writing, you didn't get a promise. You got thrown bait and you bit.
KiLLeRdAcKeL
^this
SonderingStrike
If they say "Oh we will Upgrade it" get it in email. Get every promise in Email. Never take anything important at face value.
TheFrostyOak
And actually ask what the position is, don't just say what you need. We can doesn't equal it is.
Calamarre
.. usually you don't get anything in writing BEFORE the actual paperworks...
CanIGetSomeExtraSalt
either bail and apply somewhere else or deal with it for 3 months. . unfortunately its pretty common now to do a temp to hire type thing
Ittybittybroad
That must be a private sector bullshit move. I worked for the govt for 6 years & never saw that. Pay aint great but it's secure
notasmokealarm
My current part time job may turn full because of things happening. I would happily dump this new one for my current place.
EaNasirsExcellentHighGradeCopper
5 bucks says they come up with some reason to fire you around day 85-89.
notasmokealarm
Right? Part time means they don’t have to give benefits. Anything to keep us part instead of full.
RuffleMyFluffles
Its a dick move, but usually benefits don't apply until after probation is over right?
notasmokealarm
Right. But they won’t give you benefits unless F/T. So I can’t even sign up for any because I’m only P/T.
EaNasirsExcellentHighGradeCopper
which is why they fire you before the probation periods up. So they got cheap labor, and dont have to pay any benefits.
orangebicx
Ypu may not know this but most jobs have a probation even full time. Are you getting full time hours and pat on probation?
orangebicx
Pay* if not quit asap, if so then do ya job and you will be fine.
marsilies
They can easily schedule full time during a probationary period. It seems more like they're trying to get out of paying benefits during
marsilies
probationary period, although that's dumb since the Affordable Care Act allows for 90 days before offering health coverage.
RuffleMyFluffles
OP got lied to and the probation period is part time 24h and not full time.
Metalhead47
Common in some jobs, which I realize doesn't help you, OP. Question is, how bad do you want the job and is it worth 3mo of that hassle?
VodkaReindeer
I don't see the benefit of doing this for only 90 days instead of having the same hours from the beginning.
notasmokealarm
I want it bad. But my bills won’t survive 3 months part time. Which is why I asked for full from the word go.
WrathOfJigglypuff
The question is can he make rent and bills for 3 months at part time?
FrozenSTi
How many hrs is the p/t? 37 1/2? 24? They don't want to pay benefits until they know you are acceptable.
notasmokealarm
24hrs. And I have 8 years in the field, they know I have experience. They didn’t have to be shady about it.
YouWonTheGam3
What field of I may ask
FrozenSTi
24 is shit, can't make a proper paycheck with that, try elsewhere
notasmokealarm
Am doing so. Even better, my weekend job may be about to go F/T for me. Will happily dump this new place for them.
FiveShiftOne
Just wait. "It's traditional to give two weeks' notice" "It's also traditional not to lie about giving me a full time job, get bent"
DamagedDingo
Standard practice to be in 90 day probation even when full time here.
ptothedubs
Right, that’s one thing. But having different hours without being told is some bullshit.
DamagedDingo
No where in that post does it say that it’s different hours. I think op just misunderstood what the 90 days is for.
rollercostarican
it's implied when she says full time job vs part time job. Those are a different set of hours.
RadiDaddy
It’s 24 hrs/week, so very different from full time hours. OP is getting hosed.
uzetaab
No where in that post does it say that it’s different hours.
rollercostarican
it's implied when she says full time job vs part time job. Those are a different set of hours.
RadiDaddy
It’s in a comment further down.
KittyAmin
Make sure the contract states full time after 90 days. Honestly though, I'd walk. That's shady
Chimichanga007
Walk, glass door them, Google review them horribly, basically fuck them
JustinSearchOfEnlightenment
Find another job. Quit.
AccidentallySecretPillow
I had a 3 months probationary period at my first job. Received reduced salary, but after 3 months received the rest from previous months
AccidentallySecretPillow
that was my biggest pay day ever. I could buy 15 washing machines or 10668 bananas from that single salary.
servingmytimeinusersub
1000 bucks? I mean what can a banana cost? 10 dollars?
MyNameIsJesusAndIStealHubcapsFromCars
eh, i'd consider it to be dumb people in charge before i considered malice. basically every place has stupid people.
oarttam
Ask for details about after 90 days like he say but don't just walk without considering everything. Reddit advice is dramatic. Take time.
7Rhymes
Walk would be best. I've had a job like this, on top of probation being them keeping 20% of your check. Low turnaround my ass.
DoctorDerpper
Seriously if this is how it starts it's only going to get shadier.
notasmokealarm
It is shady. And I don’t like it. Definitely considering walking.
user3827492
Imagine how satisfying it will feel to tell them too
Igivefreepiggybackrides
Don't give them notice either. It's not required so fuck it
HedonistBeard
If you don't walk and in 90 days you don't get full time then it's not on them for lying it's on you for letting them get away with it.
reichstein
Don't walk, RUN!!
GrepenJapon
They lied to you as far as I'm concerned. They misled or purposely allowed themselves to be misrepresented for their own benefit
BlatantlyInconspicuous
They're on probation as much as you are. They have to prove they're worthy to have you as their employee.
SHOWMEWHATYOUVEGOT27
I’m a talent advisor and I’m shocked they did that. I’d walk out. So sorry to hear this happened to you.
Zyiadem
Lies from my employer is an at will termination. I don't do workplace BS.
Dociousaliexpilisticfragicalirepus
That sucks man. I feel you. Just got called offering a 6 figure job of my dreams. Did 1 interview. They were very interested. Set up 1
Dociousaliexpilisticfragicalirepus
a second and final interview 2 days later. HR person didn’t show so they said they have to reschedule and would be in touch. Then ghosted. 2
shakefu
What’s the job
LuminoZero
If they lied to you BEFORE they hired you, why would you think they'll tell the truth now that they have leverage over you?
FloodingWaters
Good news is part time work gives you time to look for work
NinjaFishPotter
Walk walk walk walk walk walk
IrishPub
If you don't walk now, they will walk all over you later.
AnathemaNoreh
Are you sure thats not just a wording technicality? Where I live 90% of nursing amd hospital staff are "Part Time" but they still work 40/
AnathemaNoreh
hour weeks or more. The difference between part and full time impacts seniority, vacation, benefits, etc. not actual weekly hours or pay. /
AnathemaNoreh
Still sucky, but make sure you fully understand the meaning and talk to some existing staff before you do something you can't undo.
AnathemaNoreh
The industry isn't that big. Wherever you look to work, someone knows someone who knows you, you're young so be careful with your reputation
HosniMubark
Take the job, then find another one
TheDashingRogue
If you would have refused , but are now staying, they are hoping you will just continue to accept it and settle. Happens all the time.
Yummybubblez
Use spare time to find new job, use current shady job to subsidize job hunting. Walk out like "peace shady nerds!"
marsilies
Depending on pay, schedule, etc. , they may be better off staying on unemployment.
KarmaGuitarMaker
Walk. Too many red flags.
JanCicvarek
I see only one. But in this case, yeah it is too many
SirBagels
You see only one NOW. he's had 1 "interaction" with them and they lied to his face, what else are they lying about
Skizzlesnap
Yeah but they hid that red flag numerous times.
KittyAmin
You'd think that with employee shortages that employers would know better than to be pulling this shit right now, but they don't learn.
thevortexmaster
I sure as heck wouldn't do that. It's hard out there finding people
imwithpluto
Oh no, a bunch of places are also doing the opposite—I specified part time only and everything was full time
SunshineAndNihilism
My conspiracy theory is that the shortages were manufactured by companies in 2020 for extra PPP and kept up because it breeds sympathy/attn
ChagasIstaqa
Or how about Republican owned businesses see it as a way to weaken Biden? After all, high gas prices are his fault too, so…
dohcohv
My company advertises help with education. Small print: only if it applies to a job you have, and only 25%, and you can't change your
dohcohv
Schedule to go to class, and only allowed to take one class a semester. Guess where I'm not working after I graduate.
dohcohv
3.7GPA(I was lazy my first two years) full time school and full time work, and I have the highest grades in all my accounting classes.
notasmokealarm
And continue to whine that no one wants to work. I need to work. I don’t need to be lied to.
Theory89
That's just the free market they love so much in action. People wanting to be valued fairly is literally the control mechanism.
Axianamos
Nursing homes are absolutely shit, the management see the elderly as cash cows, billing insurance near 20k per day.
Axianamos
My grandmother lives at one. They treat her like garbage. But she insists she likes it there. They have the worst rating in the state.