Or you could leave the lovely rock where it is as we already know what a fucking ammonite looks like and as has already been noted how many do you smash up to find the right one.
And the fossil. No skills. There's careful extraction that takes hours and gets you a nice fossil. Then there's smashing everything and picking up the pieces. This guy has no skills and the manners of a caveman. If they did this to dinosaur bones, paleontology museums would look like a collection of mosaics.
That does not seem like the wisest way to get a fossil. Shouldn't he ask if he can take the rock to a lab or something so they can be extracted more neatly?
Fuck you HARD if you don't have the express permission of the entire community where that river runs, to cut up smooth stones and steal future generations' discoveries.
We all know what ammonites are and what they look like. Leave something for whatever species becomes dominant after humans are done fucking ourselves out of existence.
To all the people complaining about this, fuck you. it's a fucking rock if we can't touch rocks and wood then maybe we shouldn't have been put on this giant rock with wood on it, without this shit we would still be naked in a caves I was put here to survive and I'll fucking touch a god dam rock and a tree to do it. fight a different battle
You usually look for spherical ones. A process called concretion occurs when sediment and minerals accumulate around a nucleus of an object. Fossils tend to do that because they observe minerals in the process.
So when at a beach, river, or freshly exposed sediment, you might start seeing some round mineral rocks that have a possible chance of being an ammonite or another thing.
This one was partially exposed on the outside at the waterline. I imagine experience hunting for fossils, plus being in an area known for finding them helps a lot.
I mean if all generations kept saying that it'll remain a rock and not a fossil. Unless you want it to remain a rock and this is not about future generations to find the fossil.
it kicks up (and creates new) sediment like nobody's business, the rough edges get blasted by the water and take a decent distance to knock out of the flow to the riverbed below.
It was a rock formation that allowed the water to pool into a nice, natural "pool". They destroyed part of the barrier/wall that allowed it to gather and create a natural mini waterfall.
I was just thinking about every nature class I ever took as a school kid and even later in university that was some variant of “leave no trace “or “take nothing but photographs.“ Then there are these bastard rock hounds and their wanton destruction just to get their little trophies.
Rockhounds are the worst people to meet on a trail. They're either shameless and belligerent old heads or unaware newbies who think you're kidding. I can already hear the excuses. "This is nature! I found it on the ground! It's just a rock! What, so it's illegal to pick up rocks now? If it weren't for people like me, this trail wouldn't even have visitors! This is public land! My tax dollars paid for it, so I own it! If I don't turn every monument I see into rubble my peepee won't get hard!"
Oh yea definitely assholes doing it in nature as theres a state park specifically for that in NM though picked clean. Also there plenty of non nature places you can do it, road cuts are great because they already blew up the rocks. And areas near urban areas where its already disrupted like creeks
Dude. This is like being worried about your neighbors kids paper airplane's carbon footprint instead of all the commercial airline traffic in the world for a year. But I guess anything helps.
You can be worried about both, you know. You can care about trying to keep nature near you pristine *and* worry about the global effects of commercial airline traffic.
it also makes fuckloads of new sediment for a long while because all of those new sharp edges get blasted by the water and takes an extremely long time to round off so it'll stop. Downstream is going to be murky for years, if not decades, depending on how much this massive tool disturbed. It's fine on solid dry land, but it's a real dick move in a water source.
Nature already did that to the mountain - What are talking about - I hope you're not saying paleontology, archaeology, mineralogy and geology should be outlawed.
Arguable from an ethical point of view, sure. From a legal point of view, though, even the oldest known legal scriptures (e.g. 1 Mose 1:28) make provisions for using nature to human benefit. In this context, nature is never an end in itself - and you'll be hard pressed to argue that splitting a rock prematurely (nature would have done that in a few hundred years) is going to create any damage for other living beings, including humans.
Agreed. It doesn’t appear this gentlemen is destroying public property in the name of science. More likely to sell for profit. I have no evidence either way but it seems this is glorifying natural destruction for one’s own benefit. Whatever happened to leave no trace?
marthafarquar
Don't chisel without eye protection.
kurvarVillain
That seems like a very shitty way to do that in a location that should be left alone.
OnePageMage
Praise helix! (But also, I hope they had permission and that wasn't a public park O_o)
VodkaReindeer
They could've asked a 6-year-old to dam that stream first to make it easier.
akambe
This kills the ammonite.
Grimmrog
This kills the rock
ddw113
Or you could leave the lovely rock where it is as we already know what a fucking ammonite looks like and as has already been noted how many do you smash up to find the right one.
Slugsie
BS, you didn't just 'find' it. You planted it there. Millions of years ago.
Flodos
Those amonites are clearly paid actors!
ViscousCousCous
Bender Bending Rodriguez would like a word
JimmyDalai
By what right do you destroy this heritage that you consider yours and it is not?
ItsMyk
This kills the rock
The11thPlague
And the fossil. No skills. There's careful extraction that takes hours and gets you a nice fossil. Then there's smashing everything and picking up the pieces. This guy has no skills and the manners of a caveman. If they did this to dinosaur bones, paleontology museums would look like a collection of mosaics.
DwayneTheCrackJohnson
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Zylore
Was gonna post this, beat me to it 😂
PorneliusHubertII
I like the ouch prevention on the end of that bar.
RobearGWJ
This kills the... oh dammit!
honeybadgersRus
What kind of asshat does this in a middle of a creek
khety1890
That does not seem like the wisest way to get a fossil. Shouldn't he ask if he can take the rock to a lab or something so they can be extracted more neatly?
wetsocksinflipflops
Can we not ? Jesus people really are a disease .
malakim
Dude fucked up a perfectly good rock is what he did.
vanlifevagabond
This kills the rock
onecowboytoo
This kills the fossil.
elhigh
Fuck you HARD if you don't have the express permission of the entire community where that river runs, to cut up smooth stones and steal future generations' discoveries.
We all know what ammonites are and what they look like. Leave something for whatever species becomes dominant after humans are done fucking ourselves out of existence.
Disastermaster101
Y does the future generation get to discover it y not us
Housemaster
Are we actually getting angry over people finding fossils?
draginator
I mean this is kind of a stupid comment, by that time they'll be able to find all of our human fossiles
Disastermaster101
To all the people complaining about this, fuck you. it's a fucking rock if we can't touch rocks and wood then maybe we shouldn't have been put on this giant rock with wood on it, without this shit we would still be naked in a caves I was put here to survive and I'll fucking touch a god dam rock and a tree to do it. fight a different battle
cullingg
This belongs in a museum!
Sebastopol140
But... how can you know there will be a fossil inside?
lunatic02
Smash enough rocks and you'll be right eventually, fuck all the nature you ruin in the mean time
VictusVonGuyver
You usually look for spherical ones. A process called concretion occurs when sediment and minerals accumulate around a nucleus of an object. Fossils tend to do that because they observe minerals in the process.
So when at a beach, river, or freshly exposed sediment, you might start seeing some round mineral rocks that have a possible chance of being an ammonite or another thing.
OceansRust
This one was partially exposed on the outside at the waterline. I imagine experience hunting for fossils, plus being in an area known for finding them helps a lot.
Sebastopol140
Oh yeah. TY.
SomebodythatIusedtonope
There is one ore more also outside but under water
Sebastopol140
Oh. Ok. Thanks.
Alurkerforcedtologin
The answer is more often "we record splitting them all and some of them have cool things inside, then only post the fun ones."
CyanideBreathMint
Is this actually legal? When I was young, I got in deep trouble for rerouting a very small stream.
PunnyTiger
yeah, go wreck those fossils instead of bringing the whole rock into a lab, and leave freshly broken jagged rocks, you go, shitferbrains
JPomNomNom
The comment section is wild
WhiskyBravo
if this is on public land, F*CK that guy
The11thPlague
Even on private land, we should remember we own it for a few decades at most. We shouldn't devastate it for future generations.
pareidoliaperson
I mean if all generations kept saying that it'll remain a rock and not a fossil. Unless you want it to remain a rock and this is not about future generations to find the fossil.
amp99
This kills the rock.
TexMexHex
An asshole ruined a watering hole in the Frio River that I had been going to for 20 years doing this shit. Fuck that person.
Welliguessillgogetpants
What happened ?
mixiekins
it kicks up (and creates new) sediment like nobody's business, the rough edges get blasted by the water and take a decent distance to knock out of the flow to the riverbed below.
zeebull12
The Frio has been fucked by fuck people. It's a crime.
TexMexHex
It was a rock formation that allowed the water to pool into a nice, natural "pool". They destroyed part of the barrier/wall that allowed it to gather and create a natural mini waterfall.
everwhomp
Pardon my ignorance, but how does this mean mess it up? Wont the river smooth the edges with the sand and current?
RichardPenne
Not in our lifetimes....
AveryLynel
I think you're failing to take into consideration how happy they were to sell them as book ends to some knob who will only look at them once
Rookvlees
I was just thinking about every nature class I ever took as a school kid and even later in university that was some variant of “leave no trace “or “take nothing but photographs.“ Then there are these bastard rock hounds and their wanton destruction just to get their little trophies.
ApothecaryGrant
Rockhounds are the worst people to meet on a trail. They're either shameless and belligerent old heads or unaware newbies who think you're kidding. I can already hear the excuses. "This is nature! I found it on the ground! It's just a rock! What, so it's illegal to pick up rocks now? If it weren't for people like me, this trail wouldn't even have visitors! This is public land! My tax dollars paid for it, so I own it! If I don't turn every monument I see into rubble my peepee won't get hard!"
monkeydwolfwood
Oh yea definitely assholes doing it in nature as theres a state park specifically for that in NM though picked clean. Also there plenty of non nature places you can do it, road cuts are great because they already blew up the rocks. And areas near urban areas where its already disrupted like creeks
justravenhere10
See this is why I used to rock hunt on atv trails
theesegeeeey
Fr all I was thinking about with every grating chisel puncture was “damn we just out here fucking up nature”
FelonyRaptor
Dude. This is like being worried about your neighbors kids paper airplane's carbon footprint instead of all the commercial airline traffic in the world for a year. But I guess anything helps.
MandaloreIV
Talk about a defeatist attitude
ALTEFFFOUR
You can be worried about both, you know. You can care about trying to keep nature near you pristine *and* worry about the global effects of commercial airline traffic.
Disastermaster101
It's a fucking rock chill out fight a better battle or get a life I bet if I followed u around I'd find some shit people hate about u
XKSapphire
So if I shit on your lawn, it's just shit right?
Disastermaster101
So rocks and shit are the same thing to you
XKSapphire
Disastermaster101
Tard
psstuphere
How can it be legal to destroy rocks?
OceansRust
Is that a "Hard Labor" reference?
mixiekins
it also makes fuckloads of new sediment for a long while because all of those new sharp edges get blasted by the water and takes an extremely long time to round off so it'll stop. Downstream is going to be murky for years, if not decades, depending on how much this massive tool disturbed. It's fine on solid dry land, but it's a real dick move in a water source.
psstuphere
It's destroying nature
OceansRust
Nature already did that to the mountain - What are talking about - I hope you're not saying paleontology, archaeology, mineralogy and geology should be outlawed.
ExplosionFish
Are you for real?
psstuphere
How is it not destroying nature? People going around breaking things in nature because of their own gain...
stercusmoriturussum
Arguable from an ethical point of view, sure. From a legal point of view, though, even the oldest known legal scriptures (e.g. 1 Mose 1:28) make provisions for using nature to human benefit. In this context, nature is never an end in itself - and you'll be hard pressed to argue that splitting a rock prematurely (nature would have done that in a few hundred years) is going to create any damage for other living beings, including humans.
benkish
Agreed. It doesn’t appear this gentlemen is destroying public property in the name of science. More likely to sell for profit. I have no evidence either way but it seems this is glorifying natural destruction for one’s own benefit. Whatever happened to leave no trace?
BangPowBoom
We have no idea what kind of permissions this guy has or what his purpose is. Chill.
spitfires2000
Would that be legal to take / keep? No need for a fossicking license or something like that?
GrammarNationalSocialist
Would be iffy in Canada. Meddling with a federal waterway is a fantastic way to eat a fine from logs and frogs.
pictory
Logs and frogs?
BrickSprickly
Loggers and French people
GrammarNationalSocialist
ministry of natural resources