I always love some Heinb K̶̡̧͍͓͈̘͓̩̤̎̂̈́͗̈́̓͂͜ȩ̴̟͔̥̖̜̓̔͐͝t̵͉̐̈̚ç̶̲̥͎͇̺͎̳͈̼͓͖͌͛̉̐͆̊̋̀̿͊̐̿͘͠h̴̨̗̠̘̪̥̣̪̣̤̻̪͖͇̎̑̔̉́̎̏͛̆͂̀̚̚͝û̸̢͍̗͎̼̼̆͗̂̂̒̍̋̂p̵̡̘̝̣͈̠̠̣̦̼̮̪̗̣̀̊͊̐̊͘̕͝ ̶̡̨͕̣̫̠͈͎͓̋͂͑̑c̵̡̡̨̛̝͙̜͚̹̙̗͇̦͋͗̍͆̃͂̈͆͘̚ą̷̎͌̅̅͋̿ͅt̶̢̝͇͉̻̭͚̬͓͖̭̗͐̏̾̑̋͗͊̒͐̚s̴̡̛̹̖̫̩̮̥͉͍̉̈̽̒̎̈́͒͗͗͗̽̈́͆h̷̨̢̛̗̗̲̼̦̝̫̟̉ͅṵ̴̧̧̰͍̤̘͚͉̠̺̂̎́̈̉̈́͐̍͆̏͝͝͝ṕ̷̰̭̥͈̂̈̂́̾̄̈̕̕͝͝ on my burger...
Remember Tuttle from M*A*S*H? He's back, with the docs, and the Watergate stuff, and more, lots more, just waiting for the moment to shake up the Establishment and it's affiliates, Trilateral Commission, even Barney the dinosaur gets in on the action.
Newsome is far from perfect, but now is not the time for the left's usual infighting and purity tests. He's going hard and actually being a strong leader and he needs our full, uncompromised support.
What the hell does that have to do with what I said, and only what I said, and not what you chose to pretend is implied by what I didn't say? This ought to be good.
You don't put out a house fire by stocking the garage with more wood. Electing opportunists and milquetoast corporate-owned moderates with no principles for decades are why America is where it is.
Yall seen the video where the trump ear photos were being blatantly staged. It leaked a while back and there is no disputing that whole thing was choreographed. Somebody must have it here, link it!
"There is evidence! I don't have it. But somebody must have it." is not enough to convince me of anything. Especially of something that doesn't even matter. Whether it was choreographed or not won't change the outcome of the next election or anything else. It's a waste of time.
Trump is pumped with bloodthinners. There are several indications that he is to prevent another aneurysm or stroke. Remember when he was called out when he had 3 red points on his hand, which later was claimed blisters from golfing. When it were blisters, then the reason why they were still bright red: Bloodthinners. Same with the ear: When he was on bloodthinners he would bleed like a pig even on a slight cutt. And it heals slowly.
Most likely it was the cut on his hand from broken glass transferring blood, note there was no new blood unless his hand was there, and he had a super fine cut on his palm for months.
Doesn't help that he stubbornly stopped wearing his bandage within a week (probably too lazy or vain) and there was visibly no scab or scar. Pretty neat that a "bullet wound" can heal that quickly.
But, he did have a fine scar on his palm for months after, a very fine glass cut... and the secret service guys were warning about glass, and Trump said he needed his shoes, there is glass...
wait what... it's either fake or it's real. post says it was faked but comment says people died (real) and you say he capitalized on the deaths. Are you holding onto both? that it is fake and people died?
Well you're combining different people's opinions into one question, so ooooooook. But do you not recognize that an event could be fake and that it can still have real consequences? In regards to my comment why does it matter if it's real or staged for somebody to use it to their advantage?
apologies thought you were the initial comment saying it was staged on a post about it being staged. why fake the blood on the ear at all? to prove it narrowly escaped an assassination yeah? if faking blood on an ear was the enhance the drama then why not fake a death or fake a victim in the crowd instead of real bullets with real people and real death? What was fake and what was real? and sure how someone treats the reaction to an event should be separate from the event I think for now
Sure all valid questions. I can come up with answers for any of them that are logical but not necessary. Why blood? Cause it looks better in a photo op. Why kill a dude? Cause they don't give a shit about people, like at all. At the end of the day though, and what should be damning enough to bar him from office is that even if it is all real... The fact that it's a completely fair statement to say that he would fake or stage something up to and including the death of others without hesitation.
that's... alex jones level insane right? like "trauma actor" kinda argument? a wild thing that it's crazy when your opposition thinks it but rational when you / people you support do?
forget that how about even the concept and application. Who would put a bullet that close to their head (as let's not forget, the bullets are in the stills camera) and then people die
someone who is absolutely batshit, convinced they are gods gift to mankind, has utterly NO regard for the value of others live save for how useful they can be as pawns or fluffers, and is truely desparate for publicity and the narcissistic ability to spin the claim into martyrdom.
Except an ear doesn't magically grow back that got shot off by a sniper rifle Trump's ear doesn't even have a scar not a single speck... Let ear is as pristine as the day it was crafted in his Mongol of a mother's belly
Biden *tried* to speak to the family, but the family was so invested in the Maga cult that the widow refused to speak to him because "my husband wouldn't like that" (paraphrased)
Meanwhile Trump parades the dead guys firefighter coat on stage.
And Maga goes on about "a guardian angel saved daddy Trump" ignoring the bullet being guided into Comperatore (because they don't actually care about other people)
Good show. Look, an Ar15's projectile will shred & burn the tissue it touches. .22 - .223 - 7.62 - 300 black out...Leaving a scar for months. I see nothing after the shooting. We all know he thinks his base is moronic however, the laws of physics are immutable on this planet. Does he actually think he can cheat the physical world as well? I would not be surprised to hear he tried
I think he got a small nick in his ear from the teleprompter glass that was hit by a bullet. Ears bleed a lot. He is definitely still saying he got shot though, but he clearly didn't.
He’s been working that trajectory for decades. It’s been common knowledge that he plans a run since he was SF mayor. Trolling Trump and spreading a bit of hope is a damn fine way to do it.
Is he a perfect candidate? Hell no. Is he 10,000% better than anyone from the other side? Hell yes. He’s not stupid. He has a consistent record, “centrist” as it is. And he’s reasonably electable. If he wants to run, I say go for it.
He has been very overt about it. Any world where Newsom is the good guy and right choice is a really sad one, because he's the epitome of center-right liberalism. Having said that, I will take that 100% of the time over nazis
Let's be real here, my American siblings in Jibbers: (a) there is little chance for a left-leaning 3rd party presidential run; voting for them will help the GOP; (b) not voting for the mainstream Dem will help the GOP; (c) there is currently no face in the political centre that has any sort of recognition or even a long shot at the presidency. I suggest you get ready to vote for the next-best thing (Newsom), and do it in droves, as soon as you get the chance. You're not marrying him.
Vote blue no matter who for the presidency, but be stricter for smaller elections. Keep GOP out of the presidency no matter what, but try to change the Democratic party more left at the lower levels and hope it trickles up to shift the party, is what I'm an advocate for.
He's human fucking garbage who has committed crimes against humanity. I would consider him if he would come out against genocide, but we all know that he won't.
Good point. I mean it's logical: There's a guy you only partially see eye-to-eye with. Who maybe lacks a moral spine by your own, valid metric. Granted. You don't have to agree with him to prefer him to outright, mask-off fascism. That is the alternative. Throwing the ball to Cheetler, who is actively dismantling the rule of law in your own bloody home, and who stands against *everything* you stand for. Cf. point (b) in my comment above.
You know, if everyone who said "you have to vote for the genocidal maniac if you don't want the other genocidal maniac to win" instead said "I won't vote for a genocidal maniac," maybe we'd have fewer genocidal maniacs running.
Look, I don't think I'll be able to change your mind. If you see, anywhere on the horizon, a Dem candidate who might be able to gather enough momentum to flush the fascists out of DC, ignore all their flaws for the time being, and run with them. You guys live in a 50:50 binary "Democracy", and I'm sorry to say that if you go for the 25-25:50 split, you will always, always lose to the fashies. And who knows: Maybe in the 2030s, the Canadians will invade to get rid of Trumpism for you.
Fucks sake. When will ye learn the fucking lesson: voting for the less bad candidate still ends up with sliding right.
You have 3 years to force candidates to adopt actual left wing policies, pressure them, refuse to support them otherwise, demand change. But no, here we are with "well look, we gotta just give in and vote for a shitty candidate". What incentive is there for them to do better if you are going to vote for them just because of the (d) after their name???
It's working. Mainly because it's the first real backbone the democrats have shown, taking the higher ground is not working. It's time to get into the mud with the pigs.
Zohran Mamdani has been showing a hell of a backbone and the Dem establishment has been trying to take him down the whole time. Newsom's team knows the DNC is looking for anyone to run in 2028 that *isn't* an actual progressive, and this is their way of pushing him while also trying to steal the limelight from Mamdani's mayoral campaign, because they know that'll endear the party to Newsom. This all of course assumes there'll be an election in 2028, which I doubt.
I'm a huge fan of Zohran as well. Lets be honest though he's not gonna be running for president and while i really really really hope New York does the right thing with him we also really need to establish a popular front runner to combat whatever fuckery they are gonna try and pull in 2028.
He’s been staring at that chair and been looking to make inroads that will peel so-called “centrist” voters off of the Republican party since at least 2023. Democrats are so starved for any sort of energy (remember when Tim Walz called the right weird, the right had a fucking shitfit, and the Dems decided they had to stop that, bring Liz Cheney on stage, and insist nothing will change if they’re reelected?) People on the left want to fight back, politicians on the “left” are too busy 1/
wringing their hands, writing stern letters, and being overall ineffective leaders (talking folks like Schumer, Jeffries, et al). I think it might, FINALLY be getting through to at least some of them that “civility” is dead as far as our politics right now, and they need to start fighting on the same playing field.
He is, and as a progressive, I'm not really keen on that, given his past track record. I could be wrong, and he could be great, but I fear I'm right and he'll be another mediocre, do-nothing Dem in office.
Man, the last two Dems in office were literally faced with a GOP whose one agenda was sabotage everything the Dems try to get through (e.g. gerrymandering rules), and outright cheat and lie to top up the SC. Obama got the ACA through, FFS. The problem isn't "do-nothing Dems" but the relentless power grabbing on the GOP's side -- which comes easily when you have no moral principles. But it's a dangerous narrative to blame the Dems for this. (Still: Fuck Sinema and Manchin hard.)
I know the last two dems in office worked hard. I call them Do Nothing Dems because they refused to fight as hard as the GOP. Whenever The GOP did something to disrupt anything progressive happening, the Dem in question either caved immediately, or Compromized much more than they should have. The ACA under Obama and Student Debt Forgiveness under Biden are both prime examples. I want to hear a Dem president say Fuck you, we're doing Medicare for All anyway even if you don't like it.
So what? Let him have his motivations. Important thing is he's encouraging Democrats to go on offense and forget the 90s for the first time. There is simply no price you can put on that that.
The "finally, actually doing something" part is fine. The problem is that part of his strategy for appealing to the "swing voters" has been to trample homeless and transgender people.
Sure, but if there's anyone in the primaries (assuming they happen) who will throw a rope to me AND my family, I'll take that person over this schlub any day.
Unless we all pull together right now and create new ways to fight back, the menu of democracy where we pick a perfect candidate may be gone in the next few years, never to return.
Seconded. You can't cynic yourself into a winning presidential run. Yes, he's positioning himself to be president, but that's because people want what he's offering: a Democrat that fights back. If he keeps fighting tooth and nail, then he's got my vote, even if I know he's trying to get it.
There was a fellow named Tom Ammiano who ran for SF mayor twice, once against Newsome. I don’t remember which run it was, but one night he came into my regular bar, pressing the flesh. I shook his hand, had a ten or twenty second chat, and was left very appreciative of the effort. I’m pretty sure I was voting for him before that. I was certain afterwards.
Yes, if a politician does things that I want a politician to do, the chances of me voting for them rise. Who knew?
Obvs. He will unlikely renounce his corpo buddies, so I’m just gonna take these wonderful vibes for what they are and pick someone else in the primary.
I'm hoping at least Newsom realizes that he's too toxic to run for the presidency when/if we get to that point, and instead overwhelmingly endorses a center-left candidate.
Right? I'm sure the DNC is already licking their chops when it comes to him, he ticks all the boxes of their major failures in the past few decades, they aren't about to change that "winning" formula now!
He's deliberately pandering to right-wing reactionaries in an attempt to appeal to the "swing voters", the age-old Democratic tactic for presidential campaigns. That shit doesn't work any more in 2024 and beyond. Or so I'd like to think.
He is a political opportunist, as evidenced by his attempts to play with right wing talking heads, and his veto on the ranked choice voting Bill that had come to his desk a few years ago.
TripleDane
I always love some Heinb K̶̡̧͍͓͈̘͓̩̤̎̂̈́͗̈́̓͂͜ȩ̴̟͔̥̖̜̓̔͐͝t̵͉̐̈̚ç̶̲̥͎͇̺͎̳͈̼͓͖͌͛̉̐͆̊̋̀̿͊̐̿͘͠h̴̨̗̠̘̪̥̣̪̣̤̻̪͖͇̎̑̔̉́̎̏͛̆͂̀̚̚͝û̸̢͍̗͎̼̼̆͗̂̂̒̍̋̂p̵̡̘̝̣͈̠̠̣̦̼̮̪̗̣̀̊͊̐̊͘̕͝ ̶̡̨͕̣̫̠͈͎͓̋͂͑̑c̵̡̡̨̛̝͙̜͚̹̙̗͇̦͋͗̍͆̃͂̈͆͘̚ą̷̎͌̅̅͋̿ͅt̶̢̝͇͉̻̭͚̬͓͖̭̗͐̏̾̑̋͗͊̒͐̚s̴̡̛̹̖̫̩̮̥͉͍̉̈̽̒̎̈́͒͗͗͗̽̈́͆h̷̨̢̛̗̗̲̼̦̝̫̟̉ͅṵ̴̧̧̰͍̤̘͚͉̠̺̂̎́̈̉̈́͐̍͆̏͝͝͝ṕ̷̰̭̥͈̂̈̂́̾̄̈̕̕͝͝ on my burger...
Bob12345678904
They should have at least touched that up
ROBOT120807
Anyone that posts AI is my enemy
terrywat5
here's ketchup in your ear could replace 'mud in your eye'.
CallMeMcGyver
Too far?... Bro... nowhere remotely near Far Enough... not even within the same zip code.
CatSparkleBreaker
I'd say that shooter was a little too far... To the left
GoneSolo
He could assassinate the entire gop and he wouldn't go too far.
tekcor
Even when we treat MAGA the way Germany treats Nazis, it won't be too far.
MenloPart
I am afraid that recreating the original picture with a competent shooter wouldn't be too far.
rockmanx853000
Go LOWER
planktun
Rendova
Remember Tuttle from M*A*S*H? He's back, with the docs, and the Watergate stuff, and more, lots more, just waiting for the moment to shake up the Establishment and it's affiliates, Trilateral Commission, even Barney the dinosaur gets in on the action.
Unindoctrinated
It's not often someone injects a little fun into politics. It's a pleasant respite from the never ending torrent of shit.
ThatTransformersDude
Ride the torrent
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LankyBootyGriswald
Can we go back to the political scene of our president embracing memes? The "Thanks Obama" clip of Obama was peak.
hoefty
Also comedy is great at delegitimizing fascists. For one they can't make jokes, their humor is cruelty. And two they can not stand being made fun of.
killbillsexwife
Not even close
Ikwilstroopwaffels
Oh my god lmao
SuperfluousMeh
fuck y'all, This is making me like Newsome, ick
supertigerlamp
When it comes to pieces of shit like Trump and his MAGAzis
Hatsodoom
An appropriate use of AI.
mooseablethenok
He hasn't gone way to far enough.
ToonamiT0M
Newsome is far from perfect, but now is not the time for the left's usual infighting and purity tests. He's going hard and actually being a strong leader and he needs our full, uncompromised support.
Kitehammer
Same bullshit as always. It's never time to go against the corporate interests.
ToonamiT0M
What the hell does that have to do with what I said, and only what I said, and not what you chose to pretend is implied by what I didn't say?
This ought to be good.
Kitehammer
Now is exactly the time to refuse wholeheartedly to rally behind another Republican-lite. Learn lessons from 2016 and 2024.
ToonamiT0M
I didn't say blindly follow without question,
We need to put out the house fire before we begin arguing over new curtains.
Kitehammer
You don't put out a house fire by stocking the garage with more wood. Electing opportunists and milquetoast corporate-owned moderates with no principles for decades are why America is where it is.
CraftyGiant
Yall seen the video where the trump ear photos were being blatantly staged. It leaked a while back and there is no disputing that whole thing was choreographed. Somebody must have it here, link it!
baconandmorebacon
"There is evidence! I don't have it. But somebody must have it." is not enough to convince me of anything. Especially of something that doesn't even matter. Whether it was choreographed or not won't change the outcome of the next election or anything else. It's a waste of time.
CraftyGiant
I'm asking for a specific clip i saw here a while back not some speculative bullshit, kiss me ass.
CraftyGiant
For the people in here saying i'm as bad as the right, and making shit up.. kiss me whole ass.
https://www.tiktok.com/@devinpolitics/video/7528147520220941623
bloxxing
as soon as his hand hit his ear and came away bloody i thought 'blood bag' [stage prop].
Elkarlo1977
Trump is pumped with bloodthinners. There are several indications that he is to prevent another aneurysm or stroke. Remember when he was called out when he had 3 red points on his hand, which later was claimed blisters from golfing. When it were blisters, then the reason why they were still bright red: Bloodthinners. Same with the ear: When he was on bloodthinners he would bleed like a pig even on a slight cutt. And it heals slowly.
SirenBrick
Most likely it was the cut on his hand from broken glass transferring blood, note there was no new blood unless his hand was there, and he had a super fine cut on his palm for months.
NovemberAlphaMikeEcho
Doesn't help that he stubbornly stopped wearing his bandage within a week (probably too lazy or vain) and there was visibly no scab or scar. Pretty neat that a "bullet wound" can heal that quickly.
SirenBrick
But, he did have a fine scar on his palm for months after, a very fine glass cut... and the secret service guys were warning about glass, and Trump said he needed his shoes, there is glass...
pleaseacknowledgethecat
Finally, leaders smiling
KrisSommer
Sharp? Even the low vote memes here are sharper. Because a politician with both to lose *finally* stands up? Ugh.
bloxxing
unlike little donnie...
petonious
Not even close you twat!
bethefirsttocomment
Two people died that day.
thrashingcows
And the GQP believe it was worth it!
Easykehl
Seems low since the daily average is around 150,000
testzero
the wrong two
NotACanadian
Not only are the bloodspatters in question currently burning in Hell but the god-king they chose to worship didn't do much to even console them.
foxthebloodied
Am I supposed to feel bad someone who went to a Trump rally to cheer him died? Because I don't.
zFUBARz
And Trump has taken every chance he's had to capitalize on both the event, and their deaths.
svga
wait what... it's either fake or it's real. post says it was faked but comment says people died (real) and you say he capitalized on the deaths. Are you holding onto both? that it is fake and people died?
zFUBARz
Well you're combining different people's opinions into one question, so ooooooook. But do you not recognize that an event could be fake and that it can still have real consequences? In regards to my comment why does it matter if it's real or staged for somebody to use it to their advantage?
svga
apologies thought you were the initial comment saying it was staged on a post about it being staged.
why fake the blood on the ear at all? to prove it narrowly escaped an assassination yeah? if faking blood on an ear was the enhance the drama then why not fake a death or fake a victim in the crowd instead of real bullets with real people and real death? What was fake and what was real? and sure how someone treats the reaction to an event should be separate from the event I think for now
zFUBARz
Sure all valid questions. I can come up with answers for any of them that are logical but not necessary. Why blood? Cause it looks better in a photo op. Why kill a dude? Cause they don't give a shit about people, like at all. At the end of the day though, and what should be damning enough to bar him from office is that even if it is all real... The fact that it's a completely fair statement to say that he would fake or stage something up to and including the death of others without hesitation.
CraftyGiant
Prove those people existed...
svga
whoa ho hooo it was Biden's secret service there who said it was all real and what do you mean prove they exist? Corey Comperatore footage on the day is horrendous and PBS reported on him and his family loss - Joe Biden personally spoke to the family too
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/former-fire-chief-corey-comperatore-who-died-at-trump-rally-used-his-body-to-protect-family-from-gunfire
Direkt4
stfu fascist
bethefirsttocomment
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unevenload
Whoosh! That one flew right over your head.
PutItInNeutral
Exactly as Trump planned it.
bethefirsttocomment
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svga
that's... alex jones level insane right? like "trauma actor" kinda argument? a wild thing that it's crazy when your opposition thinks it but rational when you / people you support do?
Direkt4
Maybe they'll get sued for 2 trillion dollars. Seems like a cogent response.
Skywatcher16
not really. if you think it is, you dramatically underestimate how cruel, ruthless and performative maga has become.
svga
forget that how about even the concept and application. Who would put a bullet that close to their head (as let's not forget, the bullets are in the stills camera) and then people die
Skywatcher16
someone who is absolutely batshit, convinced they are gods gift to mankind, has utterly NO regard for the value of others live save for how useful they can be as pawns or fluffers, and is truely desparate for publicity and the narcissistic ability to spin the claim into martyrdom.
aka; trump in a nutshell. thats who would do it.
thedarklord187
Except an ear doesn't magically grow back that got shot off by a sniper rifle Trump's ear doesn't even have a scar not a single speck... Let ear is as pristine as the day it was crafted in his Mongol of a mother's belly
svga
but like dozen other people shot and Corey Comperatore is dead - the footage on the day is horrendous and PBS reported on him and his family loss - Joe Biden personally spoke to the family too https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/former-fire-chief-corey-comperatore-who-died-at-trump-rally-used-his-body-to-protect-family-from-gunfire
not sure what the ear has to do with this
TheLastBootyBender
Biden *tried* to speak to the family, but the family was so invested in the Maga cult that the widow refused to speak to him because "my husband wouldn't like that" (paraphrased)
Meanwhile Trump parades the dead guys firefighter coat on stage.
And Maga goes on about "a guardian angel saved daddy Trump" ignoring the bullet being guided into Comperatore (because they don't actually care about other people)
todaytomorrowwillbeyesterday
Good show. Look, an Ar15's projectile will shred & burn the tissue it touches. .22 - .223 - 7.62 - 300 black out...Leaving a scar for months. I see nothing after the shooting. We all know he thinks his base is moronic however, the laws of physics are immutable on this planet. Does he actually think he can cheat the physical world as well? I would not be surprised to hear he tried
rumandbass
I think he got a small nick in his ear from the teleprompter glass that was hit by a bullet. Ears bleed a lot. He is definitely still saying he got shot though, but he clearly didn't.
familiarusername
Newsom is sooo gonna be the Democratic nominee.
ToSisPoS
I’m going to go count all the lockstep “he’s just as baaaaaaaaaaad!” comments.
Debauchable
...you guys realize this is a fake, generated image right? The bottle says 'HEINB' over clearly scrambled text, along with the too-smooth faces.
bigdix69420
No way........!??!?!
Skywatcher16
selexor
We know it's fake. That's the joke...
Hammertulski
OH I HAD NO IDEA
AnyUsernameWillDoForMe
It’s a joke. They don’t have to actually act it out.
Nanntuckett
Might be a little cynical, but I think he’s doing these things, in part, to look good for a future presidential campaign
dogmatix
Really? Because to me this does the opposite. But it makes him a bloody great governor.
CitizenPrime
The majority of politicians are self serving
montyman185
He tried to shift right and did a whole podcast circuit, but it failed, so now he's doubling down on the dems.
Frankly though, a slimey bastard is fine as long as he's going after the things and people we need someone to go after.
Corrodias
If only he weren't going after our homeless and transgender family, maybe we could be more enthusiastic.
lrateyourrig
Yep. Also this isn't what i want a presidential campaign to be. Someone on CNN saying "isn't he so presidential" like The Idiot
akodorokku
Entirely. He's stil a transphobe that hates the homeless.
DaierMune
Oh, 100%
joshuasplinth
It also seems to be one of the few legitimate ways to attack he and his surrogates. I hope Pritzger gets in on it, dude is a fuckin genius.
hogeyegrex
He’s been working that trajectory for decades. It’s been common knowledge that he plans a run since he was SF mayor. Trolling Trump and spreading a bit of hope is a damn fine way to do it.
Is he a perfect candidate? Hell no. Is he 10,000% better than anyone from the other side? Hell yes. He’s not stupid. He has a consistent record, “centrist” as it is. And he’s reasonably electable. If he wants to run, I say go for it.
leicanthrope
That's been obvious since his days as mayor in SF.
HeLoudlySaidIgnoreMe
He has been very overt about it. Any world where Newsom is the good guy and right choice is a really sad one, because he's the epitome of center-right liberalism. Having said that, I will take that 100% of the time over nazis
NinjaBauer
Yep, reals of Fetterman style shit posting. Probably to be followed up by shitting on the left and making friends with nazis
mastikator
As a European I do hope someone like him wins in your next election, assuming you have one.
Grumptious
Ya think?
trigaranus
Let's be real here, my American siblings in Jibbers: (a) there is little chance for a left-leaning 3rd party presidential run; voting for them will help the GOP; (b) not voting for the mainstream Dem will help the GOP; (c) there is currently no face in the political centre that has any sort of recognition or even a long shot at the presidency. I suggest you get ready to vote for the next-best thing (Newsom), and do it in droves, as soon as you get the chance. You're not marrying him.
sufferinsuccotash
This^
kgbofficer
Vote blue no matter who for the presidency, but be stricter for smaller elections. Keep GOP out of the presidency no matter what, but try to change the Democratic party more left at the lower levels and hope it trickles up to shift the party, is what I'm an advocate for.
thanatos777
He's human fucking garbage who has committed crimes against humanity. I would consider him if he would come out against genocide, but we all know that he won't.
trigaranus
Good point. I mean it's logical: There's a guy you only partially see eye-to-eye with. Who maybe lacks a moral spine by your own, valid metric. Granted. You don't have to agree with him to prefer him to outright, mask-off fascism. That is the alternative. Throwing the ball to Cheetler, who is actively dismantling the rule of law in your own bloody home, and who stands against *everything* you stand for. Cf. point (b) in my comment above.
thanatos777
You know, if everyone who said "you have to vote for the genocidal maniac if you don't want the other genocidal maniac to win" instead said "I won't vote for a genocidal maniac," maybe we'd have fewer genocidal maniacs running.
trigaranus
Look, I don't think I'll be able to change your mind. If you see, anywhere on the horizon, a Dem candidate who might be able to gather enough momentum to flush the fascists out of DC, ignore all their flaws for the time being, and run with them. You guys live in a 50:50 binary "Democracy", and I'm sorry to say that if you go for the 25-25:50 split, you will always, always lose to the fashies. And who knows: Maybe in the 2030s, the Canadians will invade to get rid of Trumpism for you.
Corrodias
Of course. If he makes it past the primary.
VinnieJonesDiary
Fucks sake.
When will ye learn the fucking lesson: voting for the less bad candidate still ends up with sliding right.
You have 3 years to force candidates to adopt actual left wing policies, pressure them, refuse to support them otherwise, demand change.
But no, here we are with "well look, we gotta just give in and vote for a shitty candidate".
What incentive is there for them to do better if you are going to vote for them just because of the (d) after their name???
BrdCdn
3 years isn't enough time for a presidential. You don't start at the top.
spiceass9000
Ya no shit. And newsom is a scumbag, make no mistake about it. That being said this campaign is fucking hilarious and I love it
familiarusername
Why would that be cynical? I think he is and he isn't exactly hiding it. Good for him.
cloudstrife046583000
It's working. Mainly because it's the first real backbone the democrats have shown, taking the higher ground is not working. It's time to get into the mud with the pigs.
akodorokku
Zohran Mamdani has been showing a hell of a backbone and the Dem establishment has been trying to take him down the whole time. Newsom's team knows the DNC is looking for anyone to run in 2028 that *isn't* an actual progressive, and this is their way of pushing him while also trying to steal the limelight from Mamdani's mayoral campaign, because they know that'll endear the party to Newsom. This all of course assumes there'll be an election in 2028, which I doubt.
cloudstrife046583000
I'm a huge fan of Zohran as well. Lets be honest though he's not gonna be running for president and while i really really really hope New York does the right thing with him we also really need to establish a popular front runner to combat whatever fuckery they are gonna try and pull in 2028.
CrabbyBlueberry
Yeah, and I will fight him tooth and nail. I do not want to vote for that neoliberal asshole.
Mahcks
I'm assuming this was made by the twitter handle PaulleyTicks. Just judging by the watermark. All the others were posted by Gavin's account.
fillerbunny9
He’s been staring at that chair and been looking to make inroads that will peel so-called “centrist” voters off of the Republican party since at least 2023. Democrats are so starved for any sort of energy (remember when Tim Walz called the right weird, the right had a fucking shitfit, and the Dems decided they had to stop that, bring Liz Cheney on stage, and insist nothing will change if they’re reelected?) People on the left want to fight back, politicians on the “left” are too busy 1/
fillerbunny9
wringing their hands, writing stern letters, and being overall ineffective leaders (talking folks like Schumer, Jeffries, et al). I think it might, FINALLY be getting through to at least some of them that “civility” is dead as far as our politics right now, and they need to start fighting on the same playing field.
CyberHexx
He is, and as a progressive, I'm not really keen on that, given his past track record. I could be wrong, and he could be great, but I fear I'm right and he'll be another mediocre, do-nothing Dem in office.
trigaranus
Man, the last two Dems in office were literally faced with a GOP whose one agenda was sabotage everything the Dems try to get through (e.g. gerrymandering rules), and outright cheat and lie to top up the SC. Obama got the ACA through, FFS. The problem isn't "do-nothing Dems" but the relentless power grabbing on the GOP's side -- which comes easily when you have no moral principles. But it's a dangerous narrative to blame the Dems for this. (Still: Fuck Sinema and Manchin hard.)
CyberHexx
I know the last two dems in office worked hard. I call them Do Nothing Dems because they refused to fight as hard as the GOP. Whenever The GOP did something to disrupt anything progressive happening, the Dem in question either caved immediately, or Compromized much more than they should have. The ACA under Obama and Student Debt Forgiveness under Biden are both prime examples. I want to hear a Dem president say Fuck you, we're doing Medicare for All anyway even if you don't like it.
KoalaOnTheJuice
So what? Let him have his motivations. Important thing is he's encouraging Democrats to go on offense and forget the 90s for the first time. There is simply no price you can put on that that.
Corrodias
The "finally, actually doing something" part is fine. The problem is that part of his strategy for appealing to the "swing voters" has been to trample homeless and transgender people.
KoalaOnTheJuice
If you're drowning and someone throws you a rope, you grab it.
Corrodias
Sure, but if there's anyone in the primaries (assuming they happen) who will throw a rope to me AND my family, I'll take that person over this schlub any day.
KoalaOnTheJuice
Unless we all pull together right now and create new ways to fight back, the menu of democracy where we pick a perfect candidate may be gone in the next few years, never to return.
AGirthyPoro
Seconded. You can't cynic yourself into a winning presidential run. Yes, he's positioning himself to be president, but that's because people want what he's offering: a Democrat that fights back. If he keeps fighting tooth and nail, then he's got my vote, even if I know he's trying to get it.
hogeyegrex
There was a fellow named Tom Ammiano who ran for SF mayor twice, once against Newsome. I don’t remember which run it was, but one night he came into my regular bar, pressing the flesh. I shook his hand, had a ten or twenty second chat, and was left very appreciative of the effort. I’m pretty sure I was voting for him before that. I was certain afterwards.
Yes, if a politician does things that I want a politician to do, the chances of me voting for them rise. Who knew?
lackadaisycull
Obvs. He will unlikely renounce his corpo buddies, so I’m just gonna take these wonderful vibes for what they are and pick someone else in the primary.
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
Homie gets it.
NKato
I'm hoping at least Newsom realizes that he's too toxic to run for the presidency when/if we get to that point, and instead overwhelmingly endorses a center-left candidate.
NKato
Who the fuck am I kidding, of course he's angling for the White House.
spookyu
Right? I'm sure the DNC is already licking their chops when it comes to him, he ticks all the boxes of their major failures in the past few decades, they aren't about to change that "winning" formula now!
hogeyegrex
What makes him “too toxic?”
Corrodias
His recent campaign against homeless people (he did well up until 2022 but since 2023 has been on a conservative rampage against them) and his appearances on conservative talk shows to trash-talk transgender people in sports. He's quite firmly liberal (pejorative). e.g., https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gavin-newsom-rages-about-trans-kids-in-sports-how-democrats-hate-his-stance/ar-AA1INrLO
Corrodias
He's deliberately pandering to right-wing reactionaries in an attempt to appeal to the "swing voters", the age-old Democratic tactic for presidential campaigns. That shit doesn't work any more in 2024 and beyond. Or so I'd like to think.
NKato
He is a political opportunist, as evidenced by his attempts to play with right wing talking heads, and his veto on the ranked choice voting Bill that had come to his desk a few years ago.