If they wanted to install a dictatorship, why would they all get behind someone who is so stupid, badly behaved, undisciplined? Please, someone explain it to me like I’m 5.
Trumps desperation on this strongly suggests that he's implicated as more than just an "associate" of Epstein.
Sure, we've all speculated that he's raped children based on things he's said and his confirmed behavior with adult women, but there was still room for him to just be a friend of Epstein while not partaking or potentially even knowing what Epstein did.
That's clearly not the case now. He's doing everything he can to get to make this stop. An innocent man doesn't do that.
Why is this not a bigger story in mainstream media? Oh, that’s right, they are either complicit in perpetuating Trump or spineless cowards. Either way, they need to be called out.
Ehhh, for some news outlets maybe, but at least NPR has made several stories on this recently from the lawmaker push, to the survivers, etc.
This does get reported on, but I think the larger problem is relatively short attention spans combined with the sheer volume of stuff under the Trump administration that's unfortunately newsworthy.
News outlets that keep posting the same stuff over and over will run out of angles to post, and people will move on when they're not seeing reporting on the latest thing that just happened, right now. Eyeballs drive ads, which drives revenue, and... 😕
Well poor Susan's face is made of clay, she tripped and messed it up twice in one day. All the kings men tried to put it back together again, but it's fucked. The end.
True, I was thinking more of Boebert and Greene. Massie is one of two repub reps that voted against the big fugly turd of a bill, but Massie's reasoning was that it didn't slash medicare/medicaid by *enough* so that's a pretty mixed bag.
Trump was between a rock and a hard place. He probably didn't want to make Epstein a campaign issue, but I guarantee you his team told him if he didn't "get ahead of it", it would be used against him, so he did and that put off the inevitable "but you're a close friend of Epstein" inquiries.
But now he's fucked, because he convinced his base this is a huge issue, and it makes sense for them to care about it, because it *is* a huge issue, unlike all the made up ones MAGA people love.
I suspect because they’re the most brainwashed and think they’re just sticking it to the libs rather than pulling a pin on a grenade that will take out (charitably) half their party.
The one positive thing that I can give the Heritage Foundation credit for is how their "voter fraud database" was presented, with a running tally of charged/convicted cases right on the splash page, describing how the database covered pretty much every election since 1980 - from ballot harvesting in school board elections in states where that's illegal, to actual voter impersonation during the presidential general election, you name it - then they
recently took that running total down, because, you know, it showed how statistically meaningless the amount of fraud that DOES occur in the US is. Fractions of fractions of a single percentage point. Which is why I said "how it *was* presented," because it's not there any more. I like to think that I played a small part in that decision, with the dozens of times I've sent people to the URL
Fox news was created by people who worked in the Nixon administration who wanted to counteract Walter Cronkite. They thought that if they could have controlled the media narrative, Nixon never would have been impeached. Unfortunately, the past 50 years have proven them right.
I agree with the death penalty, whole heartedly. There are people on this earth who need to die. I also, however, believe we need to put a big fat pause on that with exceptions being made for only the most egregious, obvious cases because we cannot trust the overseers to 1. Catch the right person, and 2. Convict the right person.
Death is something you can't take back. Considering all the convicts whose verdicts have been reversed, putting someone to death is not only more expensive than putting them in prison for life with no parole, it also risks killing innocent people. Even one innocent death is too many when you could just lock them up forever instead. If we had a way to be 100% sure of someone's guilt, then sure. But that is impossible. So we can't morally use such a final punishment, in my opinion.
There is a time and place for executions, and this is one of them. Real consequences are necessary to deter tyranny. If you just give slaps on the wrist, fines, or at worst a bit of jail time followed by a likely pardon, it gets us where we are today.
Here in the UK, the right-wing parties - the Conservatives and especially Reform UK - are already adopting tactics from the GOP. Trump's malaise is the new pandemic.
yeah, and Canada has a Trump clone in Pierre Poilievre. he's copying all he can from the American Conservative playbook right down to the "Make Canada Great Again. if he becomes the Prime Minister he'll turn Canada over to the Project 2025 bosses and a protectorate state. that way they won't have to have any Canadian Senator or House Representative. if Canad did merge it wouldn't be as one state but 13 new states with 26 new Senators and almost as many House Reps as California.
I remember reading the obituary of the patrician arch-Tory, Edward Heath, and thinking 'Fuck me! He was more left-wing than Tony Blair.' The Labour Party has drifted right ever since (although I would say the drift started with Neil Kinnock abandoning the principle of unilateral disarmament). Now the Labour Party seems to be to the right of David Cameron's government.
you have to watch your definitions of Left and Right. 8in America the Right has moved so far right that anyone not in their circle looks to be far left. the furthest left individual i can think of is Bernie Sanders and he's really just a hair right of centre. most of what they call the left is still right of centre.
if a real Left opened up in America you'd see much more damage going on in the form of burning government offices and much more resistance at government operations.
IWasGoingToMakeEspresso
If they wanted to install a dictatorship, why would they all get behind someone who is so stupid, badly behaved, undisciplined? Please, someone explain it to me like I’m 5.
georgejimmydoodle
It's only a hostile act if it can harm him. It can only harm him if he did, in fact, rape children provided to him by Epstein.
Baconlovesyoutoo
Sign the petition. Vote to impeach/remove. Problem solved.
BullittGT
GoneSolo
Its because trump rapes children and is all the fuck.over the files.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
Need to retire deplorable. It’s loaded with culture war crap. Might I suggest “evil”?
mmotky
still a pos but a broken clock and all that
Frogyz
They will do it the same way as the UK said that standing up to genocide was against them, they'll just make it law.
RaySkye
There are 2 dots. They are 3 millimeters apart. This fucker still can't connect them.
fumptrucker
At least he's got more balls than that Kentucky waste of skin, Comer.
ThatGuyFromJustSouthOfTheMiddleOfNowhere
sevenfingerman
The leopards are eating well this administration
Moochicat13
I think the whole cat species is eating well
IfILikeYourJokeITellYou
Fucking coward
Illinifan88
Trumps desperation on this strongly suggests that he's implicated as more than just an "associate" of Epstein.
Sure, we've all speculated that he's raped children based on things he's said and his confirmed behavior with adult women, but there was still room for him to just be a friend of Epstein while not partaking or potentially even knowing what Epstein did.
That's clearly not the case now. He's doing everything he can to get to make this stop. An innocent man doesn't do that.
Garwoodxx
Why is this not a bigger story in mainstream media? Oh, that’s right, they are either complicit in perpetuating Trump or spineless cowards. Either way, they need to be called out.
RainierAlt
Ehhh, for some news outlets maybe, but at least NPR has made several stories on this recently from the lawmaker push, to the survivers, etc.
This does get reported on, but I think the larger problem is relatively short attention spans combined with the sheer volume of stuff under the Trump administration that's unfortunately newsworthy.
RainierAlt
News outlets that keep posting the same stuff over and over will run out of angles to post, and people will move on when they're not seeing reporting on the latest thing that just happened, right now. Eyeballs drive ads, which drives revenue, and... 😕
Garwoodxx
Agreed. And sadly this is our world.
ThailandExpress
djangojazz
Fool me one thousand times, fool me a thousand more. Republican motto.
ImHereToExplainTheJoke
That's what her mother tells her.
MyGreatestFearBoner
Fuck you bish!
blessedarethecheesemakers
But I thought he learned his lesson, Susan, you treasonous bitch?
Ffudmethen
Disappointed that she hasn't been grabbed by the snatch
StubbDubya
Well poor Susan's face is made of clay, she tripped and messed it up twice in one day. All the kings men tried to put it back together again, but it's fucked. The end.
BeetBoxer
It is hog wild that the absolute worst republicans in congress are also the only republicans that are working to release the epstein files.
BigPLLL
Hasn’t the list been washed and “redacted”? Whatever list they read won’t be complete.
sabrinadiesatdawn
I mean, Massie is a trainwreck all day long, but he's pretty far from one of "the absolute worse republicans in congress"
BeetBoxer
True, I was thinking more of Boebert and Greene. Massie is one of two repub reps that voted against the big fugly turd of a bill, but Massie's reasoning was that it didn't slash medicare/medicaid by *enough* so that's a pretty mixed bag.
PinkyTheUnicorn2
Trump was between a rock and a hard place. He probably didn't want to make Epstein a campaign issue, but I guarantee you his team told him if he didn't "get ahead of it", it would be used against him, so he did and that put off the inevitable "but you're a close friend of Epstein" inquiries.
But now he's fucked, because he convinced his base this is a huge issue, and it makes sense for them to care about it, because it *is* a huge issue, unlike all the made up ones MAGA people love.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
I suspect because they’re the most brainwashed and think they’re just sticking it to the libs rather than pulling a pin on a grenade that will take out (charitably) half their party.
Photeus
Well. They didn't get to where they are by being smart. And hubris can catch up to even the best of us.
adverselypossessed
Wait…. is Rafael Cancun Cruz working to release them?
Nanoline
Worse - *Marjorie Taylor Greene*.
genericanamoly
And Boebert *eyeroll*
InfocalypseRising
“Don’t get me wrong though I’m still gonna be his little bitch ass lapdog.”
Illinifan88
Massie seems to be holding pretty strong on this...
stryhf
He's "pot committed"; he's already facing a Republican Primary challenger who is endorsed by Trump.
At this point, he has nothing to lose.
dynamojoe
letthemfight.gif
TomBrokaw
the division is what we need. their unity over the last 50 years has gotten them what they want
orp0piru
Heritage Foundation started 50 years ago, soon after Nixon resigned.
Not a coincidence.
https://youtu.be/TVWWQFoOZDk
StewedTomaters
The one positive thing that I can give the Heritage Foundation credit for is how their "voter fraud database" was presented, with a running tally of charged/convicted cases right on the splash page, describing how the database covered pretty much every election since 1980 - from ballot harvesting in school board elections in states where that's illegal, to actual voter impersonation during the presidential general election, you name it - then they
StewedTomaters
recently took that running total down, because, you know, it showed how statistically meaningless the amount of fraud that DOES occur in the US is. Fractions of fractions of a single percentage point. Which is why I said "how it *was* presented," because it's not there any more. I like to think that I played a small part in that decision, with the dozens of times I've sent people to the URL
WoodORama
Fox news was created by people who worked in the Nixon administration who wanted to counteract Walter Cronkite. They thought that if they could have controlled the media narrative, Nixon never would have been impeached. Unfortunately, the past 50 years have proven them right.
pushingchildrenintotraffic
yeah, we should put everyone on that list on trial, then have them sentenced to death. If and when they are found guilty of course.
psmith00
learned that from the Red Queen. off with their heads first, trial later.
delecti
Absolutely put them on trial, but the death penalty is abhorrent too.
Soufange
I agree with the death penalty, whole heartedly. There are people on this earth who need to die. I also, however, believe we need to put a big fat pause on that with exceptions being made for only the most egregious, obvious cases because we cannot trust the overseers to 1. Catch the right person, and 2. Convict the right person.
IncognitoEnthusiast
Yeah no, not for people like that. Death is the least they deserve.
delecti
Yeah, death lets them off easy. I want them to watch their lives ruined by their own actions first.
IncognitoEnthusiast
No, you want them gone, the longer they are around, the more damage they are going to do.
wylkyn
Death is something you can't take back. Considering all the convicts whose verdicts have been reversed, putting someone to death is not only more expensive than putting them in prison for life with no parole, it also risks killing innocent people. Even one innocent death is too many when you could just lock them up forever instead. If we had a way to be 100% sure of someone's guilt, then sure. But that is impossible. So we can't morally use such a final punishment, in my opinion.
Frobizzle
There is a time and place for executions, and this is one of them. Real consequences are necessary to deter tyranny. If you just give slaps on the wrist, fines, or at worst a bit of jail time followed by a likely pardon, it gets us where we are today.
psmith00
Trump is not your typical president.
he is a thug trying to turn the old order on its head so the the president doesn't serve the country but the country serves the president.
unfortunately, he is also being used by others to set this as the new pattern for American politics for the foreseeable future.
Bunnies007
Here in the UK, the right-wing parties - the Conservatives and especially Reform UK - are already adopting tactics from the GOP. Trump's malaise is the new pandemic.
psmith00
yeah, and Canada has a Trump clone in Pierre Poilievre. he's copying all he can from the American Conservative playbook right down to the "Make Canada Great Again. if he becomes the Prime Minister he'll turn Canada over to the Project 2025 bosses and a protectorate state. that way they won't have to have any Canadian Senator or House Representative. if Canad did merge it wouldn't be as one state but 13 new states with 26 new Senators and almost as many House Reps as California.
Nonada
It certainly doesn't help that after getting in for the first time in what, 15 years? The Labour party said "fuck it, we Tory now"
Bunnies007
I remember reading the obituary of the patrician arch-Tory, Edward Heath, and thinking 'Fuck me! He was more left-wing than Tony Blair.' The Labour Party has drifted right ever since (although I would say the drift started with Neil Kinnock abandoning the principle of unilateral disarmament). Now the Labour Party seems to be to the right of David Cameron's government.
psmith00
you have to watch your definitions of Left and Right. 8in America the Right has moved so far right that anyone not in their circle looks to be far left. the furthest left individual i can think of is Bernie Sanders and he's really just a hair right of centre. most of what they call the left is still right of centre.
if a real Left opened up in America you'd see much more damage going on in the form of burning government offices and much more resistance at government operations.
Bunnies007
MAGA republicanism has dragged the Overton window as far to the tight as It can get away with, and reduced its size to a peephole.