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idrinkcheapbeer
how to destroy your legacy in 10 easy ways!
CakeIsALie227
Used bookstores
BumroyV2
It's not just that JK has "anti-trans views," it's that she uses her wealth and status to campaign against the rights of trans people. She uses her platform to denigrate and spread misinformation and fear about trans people. And sees her royalty payments as proof most people agree with her hate.
DemSumBigAssRidges
Harry Potter sucks anyways.
OptimisticMisanthrope
FermentTheRich3000
Usenet #bookz for an ereader if you're interested. Sail the seas for the films, matey.
DevineEscapes
I misread that as "advertising earrings". I was confused. Back in the 90's some people would say straight men could wear earrings in their left ear but not the right.
howbloodydareyou
So if you’re a millennial and still own the same books you had as a child/ teen and eventually want to read them with your kids, she’s not getting any extra money. So that’s cool right?
MelodyLightfoot
It's fine, I wouldn't do it personally cause her shit takes are in the books too but if you liked it/ want to read it to your kids it fine
MagicalScientist
She has said that she sees anyone engaging with the IP as supporting her views. Like, unless you tell your kid to never talk about it, it's going to end up spreading it around.
Velv3tThunder
That's just, like, her opinion man.
Wiredcurrent
So the truth of the matter is on this platform anything that isn't scathing book burning related to anything with her name on it will be met with the assumption of trans aggression. I've seen it happen several times and I'll likely be downvoted to shit for pointing it out.
The truth is if that world has meaning to you from before this woman went anti-trans wackadoodle and you feel torn because you love the world but don't support the writer you are very much not alone.
howbloodydareyou
This
MelodyLightfoot
Bullshit, not one person has called to burn the books, we are saying stop giving the terf money. You wanna read her garbage, pirate it
KnittedElephant
I just recently threw all my HP books directly in the dumpster. I dont think we should be supporting her work in any form now.
5m4llP0X
Maybe we should also examine the blatant racism in her books (Descriptions of all black men, and the kid who's father left them. Cho Chang is 2 generic asian surnames, the Irish kids in the books were stereotypical "paddys") and encourage kids to look at other novelists. I have heard Elizabeth Moon is an amazing author.
IHateApostrophes
And the tacit acceptance of slavery as simply an unchangeable fact of life. The whole IP is hot garbage. I don't know why people love it so much.
5m4llP0X
The storyline is wizard Star Wars, and it filled a niche genre that no one else did well. As a person who doesn't care for fiction books, I cannot relate to any of it.
davyclam
It takes some fairly extreme mental gymnastics to construe what JKR has done and said as being "anti-trans", she's simply supporting women's rights, which are being squeezed by far-end trans radicals. These misogynists are motivated by hatred and should be called out.
kojenk
You're asking us to ignore her very blatantly open words against trans people, her actions again trans people, her associations with anti-trans groups including neonazi's and her push for anti-trans legislation, personal attacks against women who don't meet feminine standards (trans or otherwise) and very enthusiastic celebration of anti-trans laws passing as well as petty enjoyment expressed when terrible things happen to individual trans people. No one had to tell us, we were listening to her
dontrike
You know Rowling won't put you in a book and let you date a character, right?
FudgeWeasel
first of many, I hope
enderite
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jinbee
Never too late to come over to Terry Pratchett instead.
gnomedeplume
signed, co-signed, undersigned
GreenFox
Okay. So how about HBO? How about all these actors who are taking roles on this new Harry Potter show. I can only barely fault the children, but I can absolutely fault the adults? They 100% know the consequences of helping enrich her. HBO's production? They 1000% understand.
PerpetualExhaustion
The only reply I have to the actors of the HBO series is “How dare you stand where they stood?”
Imadethisaccounttopost
Not everyone pays attention to social media.
There are sadly still millions who know nothing about her political stances.
Theshoolah
You know, there's always the possibility that they're involved because they care about entertaining the masses more than they care about making a statement against an individual's profits.
GreenFox
I don't care about her profits. I care about her spending those profits to hurt marginalized groups.
spherehole
expelli-terf-us ✨
richaMarblePrince
And tell Robert galbraith to get fucked as well.
NicoretteJunkie
Man, they sure were right on top of that one! They didn't waste ANY time. As SOON as the scandal broke, they stopped selling her books 7 years later! Good for them and their timely action. Really supportive of the community.
NicoretteJunkie
More than likely, I bet sales of the book were non-existent, and someone got the bright idea to announce that they weren't selling what they weren't selling anymore to get more attention and make another buck or two. This wasn't about supporting a community, this is attention seeking, and it's not very well planned.
Wiredcurrent
You're getting downvoted but you're not wrong. This is being championed as "take every win" and not rolling with that gets you this.
earthlingextraordinaire
OptimisticMisanthrope
Stolen, but I promise to spread it far and wide.
earthlingextraordinaire
NR97420
Good
Rips4w
What an awful bitch.
Rips4w
Lol, get outta here you goofy little bigots. Rowling is a fucking disease.
VenomousFangs
bemibet
She can see the pain she's inflicting. Either she doesn't care or, more likely, she's happy about it.
65454685132465846865163
which book did this person even read because they clearly weren't paying attention
LordHosk
I support the decision this bookstore made... But I question why now? at the end of June in 2025?
Rowling hasn't changed her stance, she has been public about putting her money into directly harming trans people and getting trans youth to kill themselves for a decade now.
FromQueerToEternity
Why protest Trump after he's been elected?
LordHosk
This isn't like protesting Trump after he has been elected, this is like joining your first Trump protest in December 2027.
Im sorry did he just cross the line for you? Did you just find out he was bad?
aloharamada
If she wasn't a terf, that fund would be such an awesome idea, especially in the current climate and with how many fuckleheads whine about DEI hires and push women out of positions they rightfully deserve and worked hard for. But alas... terf be terfin' and can't be trusted with anyone's money.
DisgruntledFerret
If it actually was for what it says it's for while very carefully not saying the T-word and revealing the actual hateful agenda, yeah.
DigiT00l
That fund is largely responsible for the current climate
aloharamada
My point is, a fund like what is described, not what it actually is, would be awesome. Guess I didn't make that clear. Helping people with legal fees against work place discrimination would be great, using that money to fund anti-trans bs obviously isn't.
castraitionnation
There were books taking the piss out of the whole ‘wizard school’ concept before she wrote this series, it literally had nothing new in it so y fact that it’s had this much staying power is ridiculous. I’d say these people need to read anything else but it’s been shown that potter heads literally read nothing else so it’d be a wasted effort
eion85
I liked them as a kid. Then I moved on.
Definitely read completely different to my adult mind that's read a lot more compelling and well written fantasy lit since then.
psstuphere
Hopefully a movement to boycott the upcoming tv series will start
OldGayGuy
I just boycott TV.
theinternetkeepsmealive
I've never been a HP fan but did anyone actually want that?
thisisnotfineffs
Only the money hungry execs and Rowling herself, because the main cast of the movies disavowed her and her shitty views
Torsun
This sounds like a monkey paw wish, isn't the snape actor black and certain people are fuming already.
RuminatingYak
psstuphere
Nobody should watch it in any way
airwoman
Grew up on Harry Potter and spent my college life on HP fanfics. I still managed to not even look at Hogwarts Legacy and I'll do the same for this series. I don't want to make it popular in any way. Not interacting with content on YouTube is a very important way to do so, fmovies similarly but less so. It begs the question... if you do pirate it, should you seed?
karcain
hogwarts legacy ended up being the easiest boycott of my life, every review was so bad, the game sounded totally bland and insubstantial
psstuphere
That's what a boycott is. Avoiding something that you really want. Go strong. I couldn't boycott Harry Potter, because I have never read a page or seen a minute.
carrotsonfire
It's not gonna work, just like when boycotting Hogwarts Legacy didn't work. Too many millennials have the nostalgia to boycott. Granted, a lot of that nostalgia is for the old movies with the old actors, so maybe a new series won't hold much sway?
SploogeMcDuck316
Yeah even without the "boycott" this is a hard sell. They should have did spinoffs or prequels etc. And given how streaming series are required to outperform right out the gate, it just might not get a S2....
porkydacorgi
I will say though the boycotting of Hogwarts Legacy was total BS because the entire dev team opposed JK's views and even included some LGBTQ+ characters. She wasn't even involved in the production of the video game, something the devs made very clear! The devs should be applauded for the separation of IP from the creator.
There was a lot of really weirdly racist stuff passed around by the boycotters which didn't paint them in a good light too...
nspriest233
I just feel sorry for the new kids. Even before the internet became common adults were lusting after young emma watson and had a countdown until she turned 18. Now with 4yr olds able to be on the internet all the time I hate to see what is said/made or ai "enhanced/art" of the new kids.
anjeleyezjr
When you look at it, her books are kinda trash. Most of the characters are just immature manipulative idiots. If any of them (besides Hermione) had any sense, 99% of the events wouldn't have happened.
DisgruntledFerret
Sure, it's a book series for children. That's not the problem.
carrotsonfire
Terry Pratchett's works are also for children, but they're better than Harry Potter.
DisgruntledFerret
...Again, that's not the problem with them. The problem isn't the quality of the writing, it's what she's doing with the profit from it.
eion85
Conservatives won't applaud this exercise of the First Amendment.
Aerina
The same people who say vote with your wallet or businesses have a right to pick and choose who they conduct business with, are also the same people who bitch and moan when it's put into practice by people they don't support.
OldGayGuy
They hate the free market when they do not get their way and cry for government intervention like true hypocrites.
RTBackup
A private bookstore deciding not to carry a book is communist censorship to them.
uberpwnagecartman
It's "Cancel culture" when it's done to them
CrabbyBlueberry
Well observed. The First Amendment does not protect a nazi's right to spew their bullshit in my house, but it does protect my right to kick them the fuck out.
keyblader1985
When they do it it's a boycott. When anyone else does, it's Cancel Culture.
awkungen42
They'll bitch about cancel culture while simultaneously cancelling every person that disagrees with them.
hiddenkrypt
Conservatives don't care about any amendment, not even the 2nd. They only care about power. They want free speech for themselves but no-one else. Guns for them but not for us. They want the law to enable and protect them, and to limit and punish their enemies. That's it.
DeadWhiteMale
But they have banned Harry Potter so many times. They should be happy.
ApothecaryGrant
Just goes to show that it was never about witchcraft or protecting the children. The principles that modern day conservatives stand for are nothing more than "do things that hurt the people we want to hurt" and they support any person or action that accomplishes it.
I wish more people would recognize this. I'm so tired of people playing games and beating around the bush, acting like the whole world will end if we called them out and stopped being diplomatically polite about it.
eion85
They've now come around since Rowling is now their staunchest ally on transphobia. She's "one of the good ones" now in their estimation.
ParryLost
AddictedtoSoup
But witchcraft and the devil and a potion that changes you into someone else...wait a minute...
eion85
Canonically Harry Potter comes from a Big Pharma family. That's how they made their money. His family invented skelegrow. You know that magic potion that regrows bones overnight.
Gee, that sure would be nice for the Muggle World to have, but making money off it by selling it to a small population of privileged shits is better, right?
He's basically one of the nepo baby Sacklers.
Taishosama
The whole muggle shit is very messed up too. Oh you don't have magic well you're a lesser being imma give you an insulting nickname.
RTBackup
I thought it was a hair potion or something. But yeah, Harry is a trust fund baby who grows up to become a cop.
originalhuman
Fuck what they do
Stressicca
We know what to do with billionares
gobnaitOLunacy
Allow them to buy the presidency?
OptimisticMisanthrope
davebarton315101
Does anyone have a good recipe?
Throwawayaccount36057
Nah. They're too fatty, too gamey and honestly, they're better off burnt to ashes and used to fertilize the ground
TheCommander961
Unpopular as this will be I believe she lost her billionaire status as a result of her significant philanthropic work
BaldingTrebuchet
And intentionally keeps her residency in the UK and pays her taxes as she supports the welfare state. I don't like everything she might do or say, but I find it hard to hate someone who founded and funds a shelter for battered women. Its more than I'm ever likely to do.
TheCommander961
You're far more reasonable and well adjusted than most of this websites users. That's a super low bar but still, good on ya
MechanicalRomance
She *had* lost her billionaire status after donating $160 mil. She's a billionaire. Don't run defense for her.
VitaminJay
She's made it well back.
Charity is a fig leaf for billionaires to keep doing shitty shit while people rush in to defend them about the charity they do.
JoKo is a terrible human being who's being eaten by the mold in her house, and obsessed over trans people. The less money and fame she has, the better.
TheCommander961
hoes mad
VitaminJay
Imagine carrying water for a billionaire.
eion85
He'll be back with another account when this latest one gets shadow banned.
He's desperate for attention.
eion85
She's regained a net worth over a billion.
All her money is blood money now. No one with a moral core should accept it.
TheCommander961
I don't think you know what blood money is lol
eion85
I don't think you have a moral core.
She's made it clear she will use any money she makes to help fund her FART causes. The money she gives to other causes is just a way to protect her reputation so she can keep making money to spend on genociding trans people.
TheCommander961
uh huh. So according to you, for the 20 years or so that passed between Harry Potter making her rich and anyone anywhere caring about trans rights she was quietly advancing her nefarious scheme by giving away hundreds of millions of dollars to good causes? That's some fucking Simone Biles level mental gymnastics there.
Elliotblet
You can still buy and enjoy Harry Potter, just buy USED so she doesn't get any money.
timbazi
or if you dont want to do even that just google: book name doctype:pdf
sirbartonslady
Get them from the Library too. Yes they bought the books, but they lend to many more people than they would've paid for the books.
Comet260
I just stick to fanfic.
craigwilliams69
She’s a billionaire. I appreciate the sentiment but I doubt it’s going to make her reconsider her worldview.
MechanicalRomance
Honestly hitting billionaires in the wallet is the only place we know it hurts.
You're argument is basically "why would taking the meth heads meth away hurt them? They're meth heads. They have *so much meth*"
But then you try and take the meth and the meth head defends it like you're taking their child.
Replace meth with money and you have billionaires.
mksu
You can also fish a copy out of a dumpster behind a book store for free.
littlefoxpounce
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Lugh314159
Honestly ... I can't. Until she outed herself as kind of a crap person, I could pretend all the things that bugged me about HP; the goblins, the 'house' elf's, the misogyny, the fat-phobia, Hermione / Krum, the implied centaur rape…
…that they were all unintentional mis-steps. Like she just didn't pick up on what she was actually writing. I forgave, or at least ignored, these things.
But now? It seems obvious she really meant all of them.
I just can't enjoy Harry Potter again. 😓
jzbstl
Or… read something by any of the other authors who aren’t loudly transphobic. I mean, if you’ve already read it and own the books, and her attitude hasn’t ruined it… fine, I guess. But if you haven’t, why even start?
FuzzyMedic
Arrr, matey 😉
NR97420
The best way to combat bigotry is to cut the products of bigots out entirely. Read something else... trust me, better fantasy exists
LordHosk
The trouble is... Harry Potter isn't even that well written of a book series, it took over culture because there was such a desert of Youth fiction at the time but youth publishing has exploded since then.
When I was a kid librarys had a couple hundred books for kids which ranged from Sesame street to Judy Bloom to Hardy boys and Nancy drew. If you had a really good librarian they would have goosebumps.
Now the kids section has thousands, young readers the same and YA thousands more.
4etherling
Forgot Dr. Suess, scary stories to tell in the dark, the Bernstain bears, Winnie the pooh, if you give a blank a blank series, Shel Silverstein, mother goose nursery rhymes, choose your own adventure, the magic school bus, Bruce Coville, highlights books, the babysitters club, little critter series, baily school kids, Carmen san Diego, Louis Sachar, the boxcar children, Roald Dahl, the chronicles of Narnia, Usborne reading collection, and that's just off the top. We had thousands of books too.
MechanicalRomance
Also, weirdly enough, it got a bunch of marketing through being targeted by the satanic panic. Christ, remember when Harry Potter was the woke book series your Christian friends couldn't read cause it had witches?
Thrakesh
yeah I'm sure you can enjoy the racist, sexist, guttertrash writing of Robert Galbraith.
TheGriffin
Or, better idea, grow up and stop engaging with the IP entirely
jayman0123
something something yar matey
lapus
Thank you.
cadesama
I've always viewed fandom as a form of free advertising. If you want to draw the line at direct payment, okay, I think that's clear and simple to follow. Realistically, perpetuating the cultural importance of HP is what continues to generate her wealth, though it would also be nearly impossible to make her poor even if she never made another cent related to IP.
crazyspelling
*impossible. That's the difference between billions and millions.
SCHWARZENPECKER
Not impossible. She has like 2 billion. There are companies in that range that she could buy and momentarily be penniless until the profits start coming in. Of course she would have to do it in a dumb way. But never say never!
NR97420
Yep! Keeping something in the collective conscience still benefits evil. At some point, you can NOT separate art from artist.
NR97420
What's done is done, but we don't need to perpetuate it. If Hitler had been a good artist, would society demand his art be seen everywhere?
Etherealvalentine
Yep!
CanadianLadyMoose
And torrent the audio books
FlintNorth44
And don't go through Amazon.
CaptainAmazing
Don’t forget libraries!
CrabbyBlueberry
Yeah, I need to gather my HP books and donate them to the library.
jibbo883
Pirate everything 👺
flowen8
Or read Harriet Porber
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
Buy used, steal new?
Gorglax9
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jammer909
That's basically what everyone is doing with the Sandman, or Enders Game. The authors of those titles either have done or are accused of some things, and until we see a Not Guilty verdict, buy used or not at all.
SomeGeek75ygh
Yeah but....why bother? There's literal tons of far better books, even in the YA field.
obijan
There's always the high seas #justsaying
TheGriffin
And dont forget, since WB is financing her projects, dont give them money either
5m4llP0X
Also, the store gets the money.
pimt665
I have pirated Hogwarts Legacy, and will do the same with any series, future movies and anything else. Fuck Rowling
Handyolo
Or, and I highly recommend this, libgen
irmonkey
Does anyone not already own all of Harry Potter? I think they used to give copies of the books out with boxes of Tide.
seesall9724
Or go Anna's Archive
KyleZombie
Did you know that Harry Potter really isn't important at all and it's REALLY easy to just move on to other things?
EternallyIgnorant
Anything wildly popular is nearly always overhyped, compared to other, hidden gems. This is not some edgy take, its just how it works. Even in fields I know nothing about, I know this to be true. Fame is exponential. Think of the most underated musician in the world probably someone we havent heard of, then compare to Britney spears or whoever. Books are no exception. THere is a million great, amazing Fantasy books out there.
whyisthisusernamealwaystaken
I just wanna do Ravenclaw shit without supporting the Ravencunt bruh.
NR97420
It boggles my mind. The HP series is not particularly good anything, but people treat it like a Holy book which MUST be consumed.
SpikesGuns
Yeah, it has always blown me away that it's become as popular as it is. I read so much fantasy as a kid and must've read a hundred other books just like them. Of particular mention is Wizard's Hall. Harry Potter has always felt very disjointed and especially the last couple books felt very 'fly by the seat of your pants'. Here's these super powerful artifacts that are going to decide the fate of the world, and you've literally never heard even passing mention of them until the last book.
CreightonBlack
Childhood favourites do that to people. The modern Transformers movies weren't good, but they still made bank because it taps into people's childhoods. Nostalgia is a drug.
EternallyIgnorant
True but Harry Potter relies a lot more on the plot while Transformers is a excuse to show cool robots fighting. And by that I mean the special fx in Transformers are pretty dope, and made by a team of skilled professionals, and thats what people like. the story is essentially meaningless. Harry Poter has plenty of SFX, but the movies lean far more on story, acting, characters.
DemSumBigAssRidges
The plot of "the world's most powerful and dangerous wizard can't beat a twelve year old who's barely passing his classes" doesn't hold the weight you think it does.
irmonkey
It made people feel smart because they could make it through a seven volume young adult series.
rshini
it's why "Please read other books" phrase was basically coined in response to potterheads
NR97420
I was a teenager when the books came out, and sure enough one reason they were forced on so many kids is "it'll make them want to read more!" And you're right: it didn't, except those specific books. Well, except for what came later, basically the same hack writing but with teenagers being put in absolutely bonkers futuristic scenarios which had them killing each other for entertainment.
CedricDur
HP reminds me of Dragonball in a way in the context you speak of. I had a wonderful bonding with my mother when DB was released here. I learned how to set a VCR to tape the show while I was at school and then run home to watch it. And my mom, sweet 60 year old who didn't care about cartoons, really got into it and would watch it with me. Until it ended and moved to DBZ, and then it was all fighting and violence, which is when she stopped watching.
TheDeathstick
I’ve been trying to use this philosophy to acquire Smiths records as well.
NR97420
At least everyone kinda knew what Morrissey was, just through some of his lyrics.
moonshadowkati
Okay but... there's just so many YA books out there that need some love, and many of them are better written than Harry Potter, and have better messaging for your kids too. Why not get them the Hunger Games or Discworld or something.
AnyRandomBob
Discworld is still to my day my favorite series of books. Terry Pratchett left this world too soon.
RayMC
I contest the idea that the anti-genocide rhetoric of Harry Potter isn’t better than the anti-dystopia-that-will-never-exist messaging of the Hunger Games.
Legomaniac91
Or Animorphs. K.A. Applegate has a trans daughter that she is incredibly supportive of.
Animorphs
Yup.
NeurodivergenceMedley
Brandon Sanderson's Skyward series, or The Reckoners series. They're both YA and deal with important themes in healthy manners
Animorphs
Yup.
moonshadowkati
Username checks out. :)
Animorphs
And the author is an ally with a trans daughter!
munkis
Children of Blood and Bone to give a different cultural spin on your magic YA.
ashcans
Rick Riordan has a couple excellent series about magic and kids for the same kind of age range, which include authentic minority and queer characters.
rshini
and don't have a bunch of weird classism, racism, and sexism baked into the setting
CallThisAUsername
This.
Sageypie
Or the abuse and the "forgiving your abusers" bs, especially when said abusers saw no comeuppance for what they had done. Or naming your kid after a full blown wizard nazi, who only turned against his boss, and specifically his boss and not the death eaters, because the guy killed his crush by mistake when they were meant to kill baby Harry and his dad instead. Or naming the kid after the guy that turned a blind eye to your abuse and the injustice happening to your godfather because it was easy
buurd86
kneebitten
Ursula LeGuin, too.
unsneakyLurker
And Lloyd Alexander
crazyspelling
? I've only ever heard of her asaociated with Left Hand of Darkness, and that was a tough read.
SirNinjaPirateBot
Better known for Earthsea, which is certainly more youth-friendly, though by no means a kid's book series. But everything she wrote had some kind of depth to it, a message of some kind, ethical / social / political commentary. Good ones, mostly, fewer but broader compared to Pratchett.
TellusEidolon
Earthsea is amazing, I read it for the first time a couple years ago as an adult.
lrateyourrig
I read Wizard or earthsea in the 7th grade. Certainly a fun read and not as heavy as the Left Hand of Darkness.
Felderburg
Is Discworld... Young Adult?
moonshadowkati
Ages 9 to 99. :)
itdoesntmatternoneofthismatters
I'm about 1/3 of the way through Equal Rites (young girl chosen to be a wizard). So far I think that is a great alternative to HP, and of the handful of Discworld books I've read so far, the writing style of this one seems more aimed at YA.
zerogiven
A few of the Discworld books -- the ones starring Tiffany Aching, mainly -- are marketed as "young adult". But that's a publishing industry thing, and very little to do with the books themselves. The industry cannot wrap their brains around the idea of a story with a young protagonist NOT being for young readers only.
Near as I can tell, every Discworld book is perfect for young folks, perfect for old folks, and perfect for all the folks in between.
mithiwithi
There is a series of Discworld novels involving apprentice witch Tiffany Aching that are specifically aimed at young adults. And if you want something for even younger readers, there's the Bromeliad Trilogy (Truckers/Diggers/Wings).
As with all Pratchett, they're still quite enjoyable for readers of all ages.
DumpingSh1tandBeingKind2
Great tip!! My 7yr old son has been asking about Harry Potter ( a friend was talking about it) and I was thinking how I'd read them to him without buying... Then I remembered the library!! So that's the plan, but I might end up buying 2nd hand now that you mention it because of how long it might take us to get through each book! So cheers for the tip!
Serqet1
Google and a printer/tablet lol
Hyperboi
That series isn't very good by today's standards. The minority characters in particular are surface-level stereotypes, and it contains themes like blood purity, peunative justice and physical torture. There are degrees to what is and is not fit to be passed down to the next generation, and I think HP - if it even deserves to be passed down - should be passed with a big grain of salt, to an audience that is old enough to understand the nuance of negative literary stereotyping and it's impact.
Yomammabe1
Do that. Me and my late grandfather spent many nights together as he read Harry Potter to me and it is one of my most cherished memories of him I have. Not only will your son be able to enjoy this series, but it will strengthen your bond immeasurably.
DigiT00l
Library still pays a royalty fee to authors they stock, though less than bookstores
nerdyvet
Do they pay each time a book is checked out, or just on receiving the book?
dubeaua
Checking it out increases demand which drives them to purchase more copies
WhoIsFlabbergasted
We've also been hitting up goodwill and other thrift storea to find them for our kids
Smileallthewhile
I see them on Facebook marketplace all the time!
SpikesGuns
Another great series is 'Searching for Dragons'. I liked it MUCH better than Harry Potter
SoniqueTui
I should sell my son's books. He doesn't read them anymore mostly because he knows she's a hateful person
TeachingClayGuy
You can get a copy from the library too. Then you don't have to buy and you support your local library.
DickTipPapercut
Just tell him Snape kills Dumbledore
Sageypie
Dumbledore had it coming. I don't care what anybody else says. Everything was his fault to begin with, and he continued to use people and destroy loves to suit his own ends. He deserved what Snape finally did. And Snape deserved his fate as well, guy was a full blown wizard nazi until the end. He never renounced the ideology or movement, he only turned against the leader over what Voldy did to his crush. Had Lilly lived, Snape would have tried swooping in and never had stopped helping Voldy.
ArrogantLoudMouthedBother
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Dimestream
Might I suggest pivoting to literally anything by Terry Pratchett? He's more inclusive, his narratives are original and interesting, and he actually has a sense of humor, and a good one at that. 10/10 superior choice over Rowling.
DigiT00l
His books are also a bit more mature, so parental digression is very much needed (the first Discworld novel has multiple references to sex and nearly naked people)
MechanicalRomance
You also kind of have to hit on the first introduction. Discworld can be very confusing and dull if you get into it from the wrong story. It's not like there's an agreed order to read them, and they all kind of need some knowledge from the others.
aeolk
Could try the Redwall series
KNCanuck
This! I was a huge reader and the perfect age for HP books when they came out. I had zero interest in them because I'd already discovered and fallen in love with the Redwall books. Gorgeous writing, so descriptive and lovely.
Leithreas
They're still for slightly older children but he did do the Tiffany Aching books for kids.
eion85
If you must, yes. This includes ALL license HP merch too. Don't buy new lego sets, but used.
And it does mean you can't watch the movies or series on Streaming. And you can't visit the theme parks.
But really, HP isn't a very good narrative and has a lot of problematic content in it, like slavery is good and so is the status quo.
There are better stories out there.
Comet260
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kneebitten
They specifically speak against slavery. Hermione knits clothing for house elves, which will free them.
CrabbyBlueberry
Yes, we all love Society for the Promotion of Elf Welfare, but the text itself clearly *does not*. Harry and Ron make fun of her for it, and the acronym itself is meant to invoke vomit. Dobby's alright to want freedom for whatever reason, but Winky ends up an alcoholic when she gets freed. There was an article on the Pottermore website, the official supplemental text, that explained how SPEW was wrong actually and it's soooooo full of shit.
eion85
And then she learns there are good masters, and stops.
Slavery as an institution continues. They just claim they'll try to treat the enslaved persons better.
Rowling attacks mistreatment, not the institution of slavery.
The same way capitalism isn't bad in Harry Potter, and "charity" is good as long as the rich stay rich.
RTBackup
It's especially fucked up since Harry himself ends up being a slave owner. "Yay, I beat the bad guy. Go make me a sandwich, I'm hungry.* And even before that, Hermione being upset with an entire species being slaves was treated as annoying, preachy busybodying. Slughorn was using one to test for potential poisonings and Harry was just like "good thing Hermione isn't here to complain about this too"
AuthGaeuvyen
She only complained about the ones in the kitchen too. She never said shit about the personal slaves of rich magical families
TemporarilyEmbarrassedThousandaire
The "they're happy" narrative